Sky eye not working

colinod

moved house recently and had sky eye in old house that worked perfectly. when i moved i got sky+ and now it isnt working for me

tried the fathers sky eye on the tele as well and that doesnt work either

i have checked the settings a few times

any help?

byte

First, try plugging the eye directly into the RF2 output at the back of the Sky+ and see if it works.

If it does, then it has to be a problem with the way you've it wired. Maybe you've it wired through an isolated wallsocket?

colinod

byte wrote: »

First, try plugging the eye directly into the RF2 output at the back of the Sky+ and see if it works.

If it does, then it has to be a problem with the way you've it wired. Maybe you've it wired through an isolated wallsocket?

tried putting it straight into rf2 output and it works

byte

Right. Well that means we know now that the SKy-eye is OK.

Which brings us to the cabling. How exactly is it cabled? Are all the connectors wired right; ie. no shorts or poor contact?

Again, I refer to if you use an isolated wallsocket - these generally are recognised by having a green circuitboard on the underside. They cannot be used for Sky eyes.

Also, is your distribution system (if any) suitable for use with the Sky eyes?

colinod

byte wrote: »

Right. Well that means we know now that the SKy-eye is OK.

Which brings us to the cabling. How exactly is it cabled? Are all the connectors wired right; ie. no shorts or poor contact?

Again, I refer to if you use an isolated wallsocket - these generally are recognised by having a green circuitboard on the underside. They cannot be used for Sky eyes.

Also, is your distribution system (if any) suitable for use with the Sky eyes?

2 coax -coax cables.....from sky box to sky eye

byte

Must be a poor connection somewhere so.

A problem I've found in the past was with coaxial back-to-back couplers not allowing power through. They had a white plastic outer but must've had shoddy metal connection on the inside. Now I just use the all-metal variety. This may not be an issue for you though, just throwing it out there!

colinod

byte wrote: »

Must be a poor connection somewhere so.

A problem I've found in the past was with coaxial back-to-back couplers not allowing power through. They had a white plastic outer but must've had shoddy metal connection on the inside. Now I just use the all-metal variety. This may not be an issue for you though, just throwing it out there!

thought of the poor connection but if there was a poor connection my tv wouldnt be recieving sky in the other room thru the coax cables

Tony

colinod wrote: »

thought of the poor connection but if there was a poor connection my tv wouldnt be recieving sky in the other room thru the coax cables

not necessarily

Rippy

If you have a multimeter , check all connections to ensure that 9v from the RF2 is getting through. As Byte said co ax back to back connectors are often poor electrical connection. Replace with f connectors and f joiner . Have you a splitter anywhere? If so you are usually better replacing it with a special distribution amp that allows the return signal to pass back to the sky box.
Some of these ,Triax for instance, can be line powered by the RF2 9v.
If the LED is on the eye is working, your problem is probally with poor quality coa x. Some does not handle the 5mhz return signal too well at all.

batman2000

Kind of related and I hoping someone might be able to answer this. I had NTL and they connected power passing splitters to split the signal. I now have Sky. Can I use the same splitters with the magic eye?

Rippy

batman2000 wrote: »

Kind of related and I hoping someone might be able to answer this. I had NTL and they connected power passing splitters to split the signal. I now have Sky. Can I use the same splitters with the magic eye?

Really depends on the quality of the splitter . Some pass power on all legs, some on only one , so check that the eye is connected to the through power leg.
You ca often get away with a 2- way split with a decent splitter, any more is likely to reduce the current of the 9v supply too much for it to operate effectively.
Also some splitters do not pass the low frequency return path too well, if at all.
As stated above you really are better off using a compatible amp.

niceirishfella

Gents,

Quick question............can the sky eye work of the RF1 at all?

I already have an "eye" working from my RF2 outlet but want to hard wire in antoher telly from the RF1 outlet?
What choices do i have for changing channels remotely - will an eye work from the RF1 outlet too?

Tony

Only RF2 is enabled, you will need to use a compatible amp as mentioned earlier.

niceirishfella wrote: »

Gents,

Quick question............can the sky eye work of the RF1 at all?

I already have an "eye" working from my RF2 outlet but want to hard wire in antoher telly from the RF1 outlet?
What choices do i have for changing channels remotely - will an eye work from the RF1 outlet too?

Sam Radford

Allow me to direct you to some useful information pages:
http://www.satcure.com/tech/split.htm
http://www.satcure.com/tech/tvplugs.htm
http://www.satcure.com/tech/tvlink2.htm
http://sam-radford.me.uk/tvlink.htm

niceirishfella

ok, i have a problem now.

I have a "Tvlink" sky eye and it will not work eventhough the LED lights up when I connect it to the tv, so the 9v of power must be getting to it through the coax cabling.

I've even gone into my bedroom to test it where i have another eye installed on my lcd tv there that works perfectly. I took off the "Triax" eye i have there and popped on the Tvlink one, and it wont work.

help and suggestions anyone?>

byte

The TVLink one may be faulty, they are quite rubbish IMHO.

Have you tried the Triax one in the other room, to ensure it's the TVLink at fault? In some cases, a TV can leak voltage from its coaxial input which interferes with eyes.

If it does turn out that the TVLink is indeed faulty, buy another Triax one instead. They appear to be the most reliable.

beolight

another variation on this problem

i have 3 tvs in system connected via loftbox(global) distribution system

the second tv is in kitchen and i was able to connect this directly to the RF2 on sky plus box (from main tv)with magic eye working as a coupler. this works fine

the third tv is upstairs and the feed here is coming from the loftbox, i can tune in the sky plus picture from main tv, the magic eye lights up fine but i cant control anything

i have looked at pages sam kindly linked to but cant narrow it down, the cabling is fine,i am using metal connections supplied with magic, plugging magic eye into tv tuner direct still gives red light

the only problem i can think of is the loftbox, i havent used any wall plates upstairs as all equipment is hidden

Tony

The loftbox needs to be connected to RF2

beolight wrote: »

another variation on this problem

i have 3 tvs in system connected via loftbox(global) distribution system

the second tv is in kitchen and i was able to connect this directly to the RF2 on sky plus box (from main tv)with magic eye working as a coupler. this works fine

the third tv is upstairs and the feed here is coming from the loftbox, i can tune in the sky plus picture from main tv, the magic eye lights up fine but i cant control anything

i have looked at pages sam kindly linked to but cant narrow it down, the cabling is fine,i am using metal connections supplied with magic, plugging magic eye into tv tuner direct still gives red light

the only problem i can think of is the loftbox, i havent used any wall plates upstairs as all equipment is hidden

beolight

thanks for reply

i am sure that rf is connected back to loftbox via the MSWP

MSWP has four inputs
SAT1
SAT2/RETURN
Aerial
FM

Hopefully it is correct i followed manual, anyways this is how it is connected(sky plus box with irish sub + digibox with UK FTA card no VCR or DVD player connected)

main terrestial aerial feed from MSWP goes to aerial in on sky plus box
SAT LNB 1 on MSWP goes to dish input 1 on sky plus box
SAT 2/RETURN on MSWP goes to IN input on Diplexer
RF 1 goes to aerial in on sky digibox (freeview)
RF2 on sky plus box goes to aerial on second tv
RF1 on sky digibox goes to aerial on main tv

Dish input 2 on sky plus goes to SAT on diplexer
TV input on diplexer goes to aerial in on sky digibox

There is a loftbox expander connected to loftbox in attic

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/loftbox.htm

this is what i followed down the page with expander and dip 1

Tony

you said you had the kitchen connected to rf2, how can you have two cables connected to the same socket?

beolight wrote: »

thanks for reply

i am sure that rf is connected back to loftbox via the MSWP

MSWP has four inputs
SAT1
SAT2/RETURN
Aerial
FM

Hopefully it is correct i followed manual, anyways this is how it is connected(sky plus box with irish sub + digibox with UK FTA card no VCR or DVD player connected)

main terrestial aerial feed from MSWP goes to aerial in on sky plus box
SAT LNB 1 on MSWP goes to dish input 1 on sky plus box
SAT 2/RETURN on MSWP goes to IN input on Diplexer
RF 1 goes to aerial in on sky digibox (freeview)
RF2 on sky plus box goes to aerial on second tv
RF1 on sky digibox goes to aerial on main tv

Dish input 2 on sky plus goes to SAT on diplexer
TV input on diplexer goes to aerial in on sky digibox

There is a loftbox expander connected to loftbox in attic

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/loftbox.htm

this is what i followed down the page with expander and dip 1

beolight

there are 2 sky boxes connected to main tv

a sky digibox with a UK FTA card and a sky plus with irish subscription

RF2 on sky plus is going into aerial on tv in kitchen using magic eye as a coupler essentially. this gives me the irish terrestial station/sky plus channels with full remote control and the i can tune in the UK fta box but reception isnt great

Sam Radford

I'm a bit lost. Can you point us to your exact wiring diagram?
At any rate, those links I gave in my previous post should lead you to the answer. The Satcure tvLink downloadable instructions are especially useful.

beolight

thanks for your input and apologies for confusion

http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/loftbox.htm

the second diagram on this page is what i have

the uk FTA digibox is wired directly from LNB i.e not connected into loftbox

Tony

Sam Radford wrote: »

I'm a bit lost.

me too

beolight

jeez ill try again

FROM quad LNB

Sat Feed 1 to loftbox Sat in
Sat Feed 2 to loftbox expander LNB
Sat Feed 3 TO UK fta box wired direct(living room)
Sat Feed 4 to loftbox expander feeding UK FTA in bedroom

Return Feed From loftbox to loftbox expander

combined feed from loftbox expander to MSWP in living room
living room connection from loftbox to MSWP

MSWP in living room

sat 2/return feed MSWP to IN on DIP1
Sat 1 on MSWP to dish input 1 on sky plus box
Aerial on MSWP to Aerial on sky plus box
FM on MSWP to hauppage card in HTPC

SAT on DIP1 to dish input 2 on sky plus box
TV on DIP 1 to RF2 on FTA digibox(switching this around between rf2/aerial gives better on main tv or kitchen tv)

other connections at main tv/kitchen
RF 1 on sky plus box goes to aerial in on sky digibox (freeview)
RF2 on sky plus box goes to aerial on second tv
RF1 on sky digibox goes to aerial on main tv


Upstairs :sky fta box and tv tuner

Sat feed 4 From LNB is wired into loftbox expander input LNB
Bedroom input on loftbox feeds xpander tv input on expander
combined feed from expander is to combined feed on DIP2DC

Sat on DIP2DC is connected to dish input on sky FTA digibox
TV on DIP2DC is connected to tv tuner with magic eye as coupler