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Irish Independent Report/Opinion on DTT 25/01/2008

  • 25-01-2008 12:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 339 ✭✭


    The death of analogue TV is nigh, long live digital

    Big business is battling for a new viewing market, writes Laura Noonan
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    Thursday January 17 2008
    After decades as a cornerstone of Ireland’s media landscape, analogue TV is headed for the scrapheap.
    By 2012, the rabbit ears and their more fashionable hoopshaped friends will be consigned to rubbish bins. Any saved will be purely ornamental, devoid of practical use.
    In their place will stand a gleaming Digital Terestrial Television (DTT) box, heralding a completely new era for Ireland’s TV industry and consumers alike.
    However, with switch off still some four years off, most consumers are completely unaware of the impending revolution.
    Industry, on the other hand, is positively abuzz with talks on DTT. And it’s not just the traditional players, everyone from BT, to Eircom and RTE has been involved in talks of some sort or as the DTT landgrab cranks into gear.
    DTT will begin with four commercial multiplex platforms, or MUXs as they are known in the trade.
    Each MUX can carry between four and 12 digital channels depending on the technical spec agreed on -- the broadcasting commission say 8 is the “most probable” number.
    These channels will then be received on a digital box, not dissimilar to the boxes that the likes of Sky and UPC, the owner of Chorus/NTL, use throughout Ireland.
    As the public service broadcaster, RTE’s right to one MUX is enshrined in law. That MUX will carry RTE’s channels and must also offer space to TV3 and TG4.
    Crucially, all the stations on the RTE MUX must be available free of charge on these new digital boxes, so the RTE MUX will essentially replace the current free-to-all analague stations.
    Offering those free-to-air stations will take up four of RTE’s 8 to 12 slots.
    When DTT was first mooted at the turn of the millenium, the powers that be in Montrose dreamt up ambitious plans for new RTE services that could be aired.
    A 2003 restructure and an elevated focus on cost control, however, has nipped those plans in the bud and sources now say RTE is “very unlikely” to use its spare slots for new RTE stations.
    Instead, RTE has advanced plans to air Northern Ireland’s free-to-air stations on Ireland’s public service MUX. The plans, outlined in an August letter to the European Commission, could ultimately see BBC1, BBC2, UTV and Channel 4 made available free in Ireland, in return for RTE being carried on the North’s Freeview DTT platform.
    If the proposal were to become a reality, about 97pc of Ireland’s households could access all four UK channels for free.
    As more than two thirds of households now pay for extra channels through cable or digital platforms, would they continue to pay if they could get eight channels for free?
    Ireland’s TV masters certainly don’t want to wait to find out.
    Multinational giant UPC has already tabled a complaint with the EC on the competition implications of what RTE is planning to do.
    “We pay a lot of money for BBC etc, and if any state body wants to then give it away for free, that’s a massive concern for us,” says UPC’s Ireland strategy director Ray Collins.
    UPC’s main competitor Sky is of a similar view, though it is cheering from the sidelines rather than pursuing its own actions, and the folks over at TV3 are none to pleased either.
    “We spend a lot of money on Irish rights,” says head of operations Peter Ennis. “If they want to make the likes of UTV free-toair, so be it, but they should have to blank out the rights for things like Coronation Street or Eastenders or sporting games.
    Other elements of RTE’s plans, however, are being very well received in TV3’s Ballymount base, including TV3’s inclusion on the public service MUX.
    RTE sources point out TV3 will have to pay more to be carried on the public service MUX than on the commercial ones, as the public MUX will have far greater coverage. Ennis, however, is hugely enthusiastic about the prospect of heightened coverage and says his station is “very likely” to happily pay the premium.
    Then there’s the three commercial MUXs, which are expected to be put out to tender towards the end of February.
    In its August letter, RTE expressed an interest in becoming involved in some kind of “joint venture” that would oversee the four commercial MUXs.
    The specifics of the commercial venture weren’t detailed, but the very idea of RTE’s involvement was enough to exercise UPC who duly added RTE’s commercial ambitions to their European complaint.
    “There are a huge number of commercial stakeholders looking to do something in DTT. RTE have their MUX and they will do the engineering for they whole thing, but they are not needed on the commercial aspects,” says Collins.
    Senior sources in RTE insist their interest is purely with a view to bringing RTE to the best possible fruition. “DTT is very important for the future of RTE and for broadcasting generally,” says one. “We have a desire to help make this thing happen, not to control it.”
    DTT is likely to play a major role in the evolution of Ireland’s TV landscape, as it lays roots in homes with no paid for TV, homes who don’t want the swathes of channels offered by traditional digital and homes that want cheaper digital packages for secondary TV sets.
    As such, the companies across the TV and telecoms industry are all grappling for a piece of the action.
    William McAuliffe, business development manager at BT Ireland confirms his company is intersted in looking at “how best we could support a national DTT service”.
    Paul Bradley, head of communications at Eircom, says his firm is also actively looking at DTT options with a view to being a “content aggregator” while Setanta commercial director Mark Mohan says they are “likely to participate” in the upcoming licencing round.
    Meanwhile, over at TV3 Ennis says the broadcaster is very intersted in commercial MUXs as a possible home for the stations second and subsequent channels, which it hopes to have on air in 2009 or 2010.
    And UPC’s Collins says his firm is very interested in playing a role in DTT’s roll out, despite the EC complaint. “Let me be very clear on this, we’re not anti-DTT, we’re anti state involvement in commercial business,” he adds. Other names mentioned in DTT talks are Sky and some of the players in Sweden’s thriving DTT market.
    All potential contenders, however, insist they have yet to make a final decision on whether they will apply for one MUX in their own right or multiple MUXs as part of a consortium, so how things will ultimately shake out is anybody’s guess.
    “We’ll have better sense of that when the beauty parade starts,” says BCI chief executive Michael O’Keeffe.
    On foot of that beauty parade, the BCI hopes to award licences in summer and have some DTT started by late 2008 or 2009, ahead of analogue switch off in 2012.
    Let the landgrab begin.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    What a rubbish introductry paragraph.

    UPC pays lots for Pay TV channels. Esp. Sky ones.

    They pay little comparatively for BBC, ITV.

    Commercial interests have been offered option to get a DTT licence since 2000. No-one was interested. They still aren't very interested.

    Nearly 900,000 households now have Digital. DTT has almost missed the boat in Ireland and without the main UK channels free it is hard to see how it can have any traction against Sky & UPC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    On one of the UK boards, I was informed about the option that BBC are taking (this year) which means that we will not be able to pick up their channels on FTA satellite anymore. It appears to be a regional issue ... I guess we could get the old BBC NI again :( if we buy a receiver.

    Any definitve word on how this will affect us here? Are we likely to see a "switch off" scenario where those of us who dont pay a satelliete/cable company will lose these channels for some period of time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    On one of the UK boards, I was informed about the option that BBC are taking (this year) which means that we will not be able to pick up their channels on FTA satellite anymore. It appears to be a regional issue ... I guess we could get the old BBC NI again :( if we buy a receiver.

    Any definitve word on how this will affect us here?

    You wont lose the BBC if you have satellite. It is remaining FTA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    You wont lose the BBC if you have satellite. It is remaining FTA.

    Where did you get your info? They seem pretty certain on the UK board (OrbitalSat forum).
    Altho, I agree with your comments regarding BBC ... why would they change now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Link me to the site. It is the first I have heard of any plans to encrypt. The BBC are against it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,726 ✭✭✭✭DMC


    Lads, we discussed this last week when the article was published :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    Link me to the site. It is the first I have heard of any plans to encrypt. The BBC are against it.

    I picked it up on the OrbitalSat forum but you need to register to read the threads. However, at present it appears undecided at best. I suspect the status quo will remain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    I picked it up on the OrbitalSat forum but you need to register to read the threads. However, at present it appears undecided at best. I suspect the status quo will remain.

    i see the dept have an info site up. Dunno how long its up. Its not linked to the main dcenr.ie website yet. I spoke to a tv guy in rathmines. One guy beside me had heard but didn't seem to know much. The other in the swan centre has heard about it and it appears things are ramping up alright for July launch area by area. I'd say 2009 will be the year of substantial rollout with 2010 near national ie full tilt. I dunno.

    http://www.digitaltv.gov.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭BowWow


    scath wrote: »
    i see the dept have an info site up.
    http://www.digitaltv.gov.ie

    Good find scath........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭marclt


    From the digital tv website listed above..

    22. Will I continue to receive BBC1, BBC2, UTV and Channel 4 for free?

    A number of households in the southeast of the country and a number of households located in proximity to the border with Northern Ireland receive BBC1, BBC2, UTV and Channel 4 as a result of overspill from the UK based analogue terrestrial TV networks. Once the UK switch- off their analogue networks (Wales – 2008/2009, Northern Ireland 2012) this overspill will cease. More detailed information on the UK schedule for digital switchover is available at http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/en/when.html.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    Is this not a separate issue, ie. analog switch off?

    BBC and ITV currently broadcast all channels in the clear. This does not refer to any change in the current system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭marclt


    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    Is this not a separate issue, ie. analog switch off?

    BBC and ITV currently broadcast all channels in the clear. This does not refer to any change in the current system.

    Yes, but what is happening in the UK is relevant to what is happening in Ireland in so far as the sharing of borders is concerned, as well as the high penetration of UK services into Ireland. More people in south east Ireland are watching Welsh tv services than the other way round.

    I don't see why the Govt. needs another trial.. the technology has been tested already and the information is freely available.

    The overspill will cease I'm guessing because Mt. Leinster will be using the same channels bar one for the irish allocation of DTT services, which is a bit of shame.

    Good to hear that there is a push for NIs channels for free on DTT! It is one way of pushing DTT against competition from Sky and UPC... a forward thinking vision from RTE... how refreshing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    marclt wrote: »
    Yes, but what is happening in the UK is relevant to what is happening in Ireland in so far as the sharing of borders is concerned, as well as the high penetration of UK services into Ireland. More people in south east Ireland are watching Welsh tv services than the other way round.
    ... but this is ancient history and has been superceded by the arrival of digital television (via satellite)
    marclt wrote: »
    The overspill will cease I'm guessing because Mt. Leinster will be using the same channels bar one for the irish allocation of DTT services, which is a bit of shame.




    What overspill? Are you still referring to analogue television?
    marclt wrote: »
    Good to hear that there is a push for NIs channels for free on DTT! It is one way of pushing DTT against competition from Sky and UPC... a forward thinking vision from RTE... how refreshing!

    ... or simply use a dish and get the channels free?

    Slightly confused :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭marclt


    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    ... but this is ancient history and has been superceded by the arrival of digital television (via satellite)

    Well, for those who don't have satellite it isn't... the majority of people will continue to choose to receive free tv via their aerial....
    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    ...
    What overspill? Are you still referring to analogue television?

    :

    Yes.. until digital tv is broadcast at high power, it hasn't got universal coverage... that won't happen until switchover takes place.
    Dr.Mark wrote: »
    ...
    ... or simply use a dish and get the channels free?

    Slightly confused :confused:

    Could do, but not everyone can have a satellite dish pinned to their house, or wants one... I have freeview and sky satellite... i tend to watch most of the free channels through freeview... and tv delivered through an aerial will continue to be the norm in the majority of homes with multiple tv sets for a long time to come. I'd hate to have a sky digibox in every room that has a tv in my house....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Dr.Mark


    marclt wrote: »
    Could do, but not everyone can have a satellite dish pinned to their house, or wants one... I have freeview and sky satellite... i tend to watch most of the free channels through freeview... and tv delivered through an aerial will continue to be the norm in the majority of homes with multiple tv sets for a long time to come. I'd hate to have a sky digibox in every room that has a tv in my house....

    OK, so you are basically talking analogue TV and thats where the confusion lies for me. And you're right, not everyone can use a dish (eg. apartments).

    Like you, I use both aerial and satellite for free TV (but in the last few weeks, my aerial is used to feed a digital receiver) so there is no analogue involved.

    However, I think it's likely that all TVs will contain DVB-T receivers in them when DTT becomes the norm so multiroom will stay the same for you: if you were using an aerial for multiroom, then new TVs will do the job of the old TVs. Many of the TVs sold today will tune the DTT channels depending on where you live. However, (as Watty warns), these are all MPEG2 and could be unusable if Ireland adopts the MPEG4 standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    How will I or anyone else in the border area who can get decent UK channels, lose the reception of these when they go digital??

    Kilkeel's DTT power will be -2 dB or something like that off the existing power, so if receiving picture quality is ok, DTT should be too. Anyone who can get Freeview now, will continue to get it. A lot of people in Cavan and such areas will benefit from the substantial boost in Brougher Mountain power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    www.digitaltv.gov.ie is now down...its always hard to know what info to put up and when. I'd say it'll go back up in another while.

    I'd imagine things are really moving over to the BCI now. They'll set the conditions for the commercial multiplexes and then everything will start gelling into a centre point. I'd imagine come march the broadcasters will start designing and forming the Digital Uk equivalent, their digital teletext and that they might all finalise thing come June as the BCI multiplex applicants are decided upon, winners and losers.I'd say Dublin and Louth have gotta be the first to launch. There's the mpeg 4 issue. Again labelling for equipment as Uk equip is mpeg 2.

    I think the license fee will go in a few years as only UK and Ireland have it. I think that'll please us all. I'd prefer it to be paid outa general taxation as an info service than this thing of inspectors calling around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    Oh and the issue will be avoiding scaring people about analogue switchoff. arrh is me telly gonna stop working-why? damb blah blah blah. This is where info is important.that no, its not gonna happen for a few years and ya only have to by a set top box for each tv. and you'll lose nothing.

    The other thing is the Uk channels. I think from reading around is that the rte may be looking for the UK channels on their mux but the issue of reciprocity with NI DTT and UPC having to pay for these channels is the issue. I think perhaps maybe some of the license fee should go towards paying for that so that upc can offer a FTA cable service. I think that's the way forward for UPC as I can see alot of landlords dropping cable once the DTT gets up and running. Another thing is they're better to call it DAT digital aerial TV rather than DTT. Like terrestrial, most people thing associate than with E.T and aliens haha. But aerial-well they know what an aerial is, they know what satellit is and they know what cable is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    scath wrote: »
    Another thing is they're better to call it DAT digital aerial TV rather than DTT. Like terrestrial, most people thing associate than with E.T and aliens haha.

    I disagree. Instead of changing the name to suit people, people should be educated about what terrestrial is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭marclt


    How will I or anyone else in the border area who can get decent UK channels, lose the reception of these when they go digital??

    Kilkeel's DTT power will be -2 dB or something like that off the existing power, so if receiving picture quality is ok, DTT should be too. Anyone who can get Freeview now, will continue to get it. A lot of people in Cavan and such areas will benefit from the substantial boost in Brougher Mountain power.

    It just depends on the allocations, transmitter output and whether any restrictions will be placed on those signals. Of course you might just pick up some co-channel from an allocation elsewhere which might be enough to knock it out.

    I admit, if you're in the south east, trying to pick up a signal from across the water it will probably be more difficult than around the border counties.

    Whilst people are happy to watch tv with a bit of fuzz... it isn't such as an enjoyable experience if it freezes, pixelates and goes black!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Mayo Exile


    Originally posted by To_be_confirmed: How will I or anyone else in the border area who can get decent UK channels, lose the reception of these when they go digital??

    Kilkeel's DTT power will be -2 dB or something like that off the existing power, so if receiving picture quality is ok, DTT should be too. Anyone who can get Freeview now, will continue to get it. A lot of people in Cavan and such areas will benefit from the substantial boost in Brougher Mountain power.

    Alot of people in north Louth would also get DTT reception from Divis. Reception from here may improve too barring interference from southern tv notably 3R reception on chs 29 and 33. (and 26 from the DVB-H trial). If lawhec is looking in, any chance of you doing a projected coverage map for the Divis DTT frequencies after the analogue switch off?


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