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Transport 21 signs everywhere

  • 23-01-2008 6:19pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭


    There is a lot of meaningless signage being erected around the country. Every new scheme seems to have a transport21/NDP sign on it, some of them 10m high. Surely they must be a waste of money. We all know we are paying for it, no need to tell us. :confused: Not only that, but they are just a blight on the landscape. If they put as much effort into directional signage we might not have so many complaints from tourists getting lost!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    rekrow wrote: »
    There is a lot of meaningless signage being erected around the country. Every new scheme seems to have a transport21/NDP sign on it, some of them 10m high. Surely they must be a waste of money. We all know we are paying for it, no need to tell us. :confused: Not only that, but they are just a blight on the landscape. If they put as much effort into directional signage we might not have so many complaints from tourists getting lost!!!

    Remember that you live in a country with a Government that seems to emulate the propaganda of Nazi Germany. All those signs along the roads have increased in recent years. A lot of them now proclaim that the Irish tax payer funded the project. The state institutions like Irish Rail and the Dublin Airport Authority take out full page ads on a regular basis to proclaim how they are "changing Ireland". Take a look at how similar the campaigns are and how comparable they are to some of the road project signage. I'm convinced there's an internal memo instructing them to do this. I just haven't figured out who the Goebells in Leinster house is yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    Remember that you live in a country with a Government that seems to emulate the propaganda of Nazi Germany. All those signs along the roads have increased in recent years. A lot of them now proclaim that the Irish tax payer funded the project. The state institutions like Irish Rail and the Dublin Airport Authority take out full page ads on a regular basis to proclaim how they are "changing Ireland". Take a look at how similar the campaigns are and how comparable they are to some of the road project signage. I'm convinced there's an internal memo instructing them to do this. I just haven't figured out who the Goebells in Leinster house is yet!

    I am friends with a chap who is a signwriter, and included Irish Rail as a client. They pay him promptly and give him plenty of business, which as a sole trader and small businessman, I have to admire and be envious of; last year, it took me 5 months to procure €300 off a certain very well knows Irish held bank.

    In all fairness, the cost of a sign for Transport 21 is not at all a massive expense in relation to a transport project, each sign wouldn't be more than a grand in total; in any case, they cost fractions of a half page advert in a daily newspaper. If the State coffers decree that this accolade is what they want, then so be it; put up the poxy sign. The cost of a large sign comes out as being less pro rata than a small one; the real cost is in making single signs and cutting the metal base for small order. Add up the sign costs for a year and the figure wouldn't lay half a foot of road; that said, the signs don't plain make us drive any safer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    i particularly admire the shiny new buses sporting the T21 logo they have in Cork in the past week or two, especially when they i waited 40 minutes for a no. 8 this evening! and where are the double deckers Cork was promised????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    DWCommuter wrote: »
    I just haven't figured out who the Goebells in Leinster house is yet!
    Cowen has the waistline for the job! Bertie's catching up fast though....maybe he's eaten all his tax clearance certificates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    the signs themselves don't bother me so much as the fact that they never take them down. There are bypasses and railway stations around the country that still have "Part funded by EU" signs from 10 years ago on them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭fitzyshea


    From a previous post I believe these signs have to go up as part of some EU legislation to show where the money is coming from etc. Most likely the same with NDP signage. I just want to know how long do they have to stay up? Its stupid they should take them down once the project is finished.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055159969


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,053 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    The most galling examples are the ones which have "completed x months ahead of schedule" when according to the NDP 2000-2006 they should have already been completed! FF are the masters of sh!te production and the public are the masters at eating it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Skyhater


    Surly they should try to reuse these signs (or at least the structure) for Distance signs or even a Simple Map of the current area showing national roads, bypassed towns, etc. etc. (i saw this once in the states....really useful)


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