Upcoming fights 2008

f1dan

26/1 Eddie Chambers v Alexander Povetkin (IBF Final Eliminator)

2/2 Amir Khan v Gary St.Clair
2/2 Andy Lee v Alejandro Gustavo Falliga
2/2 Matthew Macklin v Christophe Karagoz

16/2 Kelly Pavlik v Jermain Taylor

23/2 John Duddy v Walid Smichet
23/2 Wladimir Klitschko v Sultan Ibragimov (IBF, WBO, IBO Heavyweight titles)

1/3 Israel Vazquez v Rafael Marquez (WBC Super Bantamweight title)

8/3 David Haye v Enzo Maccarinelli (WBA,WBC,WBO Cruiserweight titles)
8/3 Oleg Maskaev v Samuel Peter (WBC Heavyweight title)

15/3 Juan Manuel Marquez v Manny Pacquiao (WBC Super Featherweight title)

TBC
19/4 Joe Calzaghe v Bernard Hopkins

ODD-JOB

fights on our tv include :

Fri 25th Colin Lynes v Juho Tolppola on sky

Fri 01 Feb Tony"okey-dokey" Oakey v Peter Haymer - sky

fri 8th feb Ajose Olusegun v Nigel Wright - sky again

Sun 10 Feb -Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. v Jose Celaya - Setanta

Fri 15 Feb - Paul Williams v Carlos Quintana - sky

Sun 17 Feb -Kelly Pavlik v Jermain Taylor - setanta

Sun 24 Feb -Oleg Maskaev v Samuel Peter - setanta

Benazir Bhutto

Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr (MEX) - Jose Celaya
3am setanta.......

decent undercard.

JoeyJJ

Think i'll be taping the Chavez fight.. nice one...

The Artist

Wednesday, April 23 2008
Seminole Hard Rock Live Arena, Hollywood, Florida
Juan Urango vs Carlos Vilches (junior welterweight)
Joe Greene vs TBA (middleweight)

Thursday, April 24 2008
Quinault Beach Resort and Casino, Ocean Shores, Washington
Eric Boose vs Galen Brown (heavyweight)
Braulio Lopez vs Darren Darby (super lightweight)
Molly McConnell vs Tammie Johnson (welterweight)
Jason Saunders vs Napoleon Matthews (super featherweight)

Friday, April 25 2008
The Avalon Hotel, Erie, Pennsylvania
Paul Spadafora vs TBA (welterweight)

Friday, April 25 2008
Aston Villa Leisure Centre, Birmingham, West Midlands, United Kingdom
Wayne Elcock vs Darren McDermott (middleweight)

Friday, April 25 2008
Utopia Paradise Theatre, Bronx, New York
Andrey Tsurkan vs Jesse Feliciano (light middleweight)
Albert Sosnowski vs Terrell Nelson (heavyweight)
Raymond Serrano Jr vs TBA (welterweight)
Joe Hanks vs TBA (heavyweight)

Saturday, April 26 2008
Freiberger Arena, Dresden, Germany
Zsolt Erdei vs DeAndrey Abron (WBO light heavyweight championship)
Sergiy Dzinziruk vs Lukas Konecny (WBO super welterweight championship)
Denis Boytsov vs Robert Hawkins (heavyweight)
Karoly Balzsay vs Mantas Tarvydas (super middleweight)
Willy Blain vs Daudy Bahari (junior welterweight

Challenge Stadium, Perth, Australia.
Danny Green vs Hugo Garay (WBA light heavyweight championship)

Sunday, April 27 2008
Mountaineer Casino Racetrack & Resort, Chester, West Virginia
Brian Minto vs Chad Van Sickle (heavyweight)
Verquan Kimbrough vs TBA (lightweight)

Sunday, April 27 2008
Mountaineer Casino Racetrack & Resort, Chester, West Virginia
Verquan Kimbrough vs Rodney Jones (lightweight)
Brian Minto vs Chad Van Sickle (heavyweight)
Nick Firtha vs Carlton Johnson (heavyweight)

Wednesday, April 30 2008
Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
Satoshi Hosono vs Ricardo Espinoza (super featherweight)
Akira Yaegashi vs Yoshihiro Hisada (strawweight)
Seiichi Okada vs Kei Igarashi (super featherweight)

joepenguin

Taken from : http://www.boxingscene.com/

05th May: Oscar De La Hoya vs Steve Forbes
24th May: Ricky Hatton vs. Juan Lazcano
31st MAY: Shane Mosley vs. Zab Judah
07th June: Kelly Pavlik vs. Gary Lockett
07th june: Vernon Forrest vs. Sergio Mora
07th June: Paul Williams vs. Carlos Quintana
21st June: Arthur Abraham vs. Edison Miranda
28th June: Manny Pacquiao vs. David Diaz
12th July: Ricardo Torres vs. Kendall Holt
12th July: Wladimir Klitschko vs. Tony Thompson


Taken from: http://www.skysports.com/boxing/0,19521,11067,00.html

May 2 British Bantamweight title
Rendall Munroe v Salem Bouaita

British Bantamweight Title
Ian Napa v Colin Moffett

May 9
British Light-Welterweight title
David Barnes v Barry Morrison

May 9
European Light-Welterweight title
Colin Lynes v Gianluca Branco

May 24
IBO Light-Welterweight title
Ricky Hatton v Juan Laazcano

IBF Light-Welterweight title
Paulie Malignaggi v Lovemore N'dou

and on ITV;

10th May: WBC light welter weight title: Witter-Bradley
21ST June: Amir Khan headlining an event. no oppoent scheduled as of yet

nacho libre

Inkin has pulled out of the Froch fight. I was really looking forward to this fight. I wonder who Froch will fight now.

The Artist

nacho libre wrote: »

Inkin has pulled out of the Froch fight. I was really looking forward to this fight. I wonder who Froch will fight now.

id like carl to fight joe calzaghe?

nacho libre

davey180 wrote: »

id like carl to fight joe calzaghe?

Yeah, i'd like to see how Joe Calzaghe would fare against a really big hitter like Froch or Pavlik. Froch isn't as good a boxer as Pavlik but he'd still have an outside chance of knocking out Calzaghe. Pavlik on the other hand would be a serious threat to Calzaghe's unbeaten record. So, Calzaghe will opt for a past it Jones instead before he retires. Pity

The Artist

nacho libre wrote: »

Yeah, i'd like to see how Joe Calzaghe would fare against a really big hitter like Froch or Pavlik. Froch isn't as good a boxer as Pavlik but he'd still have an outside chance of knocking out Calzaghe. Pavlik on the other hand would be a serious threat to Calzaghe's unbeaten record. So, Calzaghe will opt for a past it Jones instead before he retires. Pity

yeah pity you never know it might still happen;)

ODD-JOB

nacho libre wrote: »

Inkin has pulled out of the Froch fight. I was really looking forward to this fight. I wonder who Froch will fight now.

Froch has been named as mandatory challenger for Joe C .....

nacho libre

ODD-JOB wrote: »

Froch has been named as mandatory challenger for Joe C .....

I bet Calzaghe will relinquish the titles.

The Artist

nacho libre wrote: »

I bet Calzaghe will relinquish the titles.

why would he do that?

nacho libre

davey180 wrote: »

why would he do that?

Roy Jones is a more lucrative opponent to fight. Also, he may fancy his chances more against a past it Roy Jones. As it seems remaining unbeaten is the most important thing to him now, so relinquishing that belt at super-middleweight won't really matter now. I watched an interview on the BBC and it definitely came across that he would have a difficult time getting over losing his perfect record.

The Artist

nacho libre wrote: »

Roy Jones is a more lucrative opponent to fight. Also, he may fancy his chances more against a past it Roy Jones. As it seems remaining unbeaten is the most important thing to him now, so relinquishing that belt at super-middleweight won't really matter now. I watched an interview on the BBC and it definitely came across that he would have a difficult time getting over losing his perfect record.

so if he gives up the belts that would that mean hes scared to lose the next fight imo.As he got the was me call it belt from hopkins and defense would be mean he has to defend that wouldnt he?imo relinquishing his belts at super middle means retirement surely?Thats not much good isnt it?

nacho libre

davey180 wrote: »

so if he gives up the belts that would that mean hes scared to lose the next fight imo.As he got the was me call it belt from hopkins and defense would be mean he has to defend that wouldnt he?imo relinquishing his belts at super middle means retirement surely?Thats not much good isnt it?

Yeah, you are right. He'll spin it as Froch is not a good enough opponent but it's really he want to play it safe before he retires and earn the big money at the same time, so Jones is the logical choice then. Jones is well past it so Calzaghe should beat him. Then Calzaghe will retire if he is true to his word.

The Artist

what about the oscar de la hoya v steve forbes fight as i be watching it tonight 2.00 am on sky sports 1. any comments?

Hero Of College

David Haye vs TBA this Winter. Y'all musta4got.

The Artist

Hero Of College wrote: »

David Haye vs TBA this Winter. Y'all musta4got.

At what weight
cruiser or heavy?
so i can think of an opponent.

ODD-JOB

strings pulled Haye has been shot to #5 in the world in the Heavyweight division , despite the fact he's only fought at heavy once !!

he's set to face a top 10 opponent suposedly !

its looking like another good year for boxing.

Big Ears

Alan Ford wrote: »

At what weight
cruiser or heavy?
so i can think of an opponent.

Heavyweight , and he's legally contracted to have it against an opponent who's top 10 in one of the 4 major sanctioning organisations .

Which currently would leave us with :

Vladimir Virchis(WBC #1, WBO #3)-fighting Gomez
Juan Carlos Gomez(WBC #2)-fighting Virchis
John Ruiz(WBC #3, WBA #2, IBF #6, WBO #12)
Hasim Rahman(WBC #4, WBA #12, IBF #3, WBO #13)-fighting Toney
Alexander Dimitrenko(WBC #5, WBA #5, IBF #4, WBO #2)
Oleg Maskaev(WBC #6, IBF #7, WBO #6)
Chris Arreola(WBC #7, WBA #13, IBF #10, WBO #10)-fighting Chazz Witherspoon
Andrew Golota(WBC #8, WBA #6, IBF #11)
Kali Meehan(WBC #9, WBA #3, IBF #13, WBO #9)
Donnell Holmes(WBC #10)
Nicolei Valuev(WBA #1)-fighting Chagaev
Taras Bidenko(WBC #37, WBA #4)
Kevin Johnson(WBC #15 , WBA #7)
Sergui Lyakhovich(WBA # 8
Carl Davis Drumond(WBC #12, WBA #10, IBF #15)
Alexander Povetkin(IBF #1 , WBO #4)-fighting TBA , then Klitschko
Sultan Ibragimov(IBF #5 , WBO #5)
Eddie Chambers(IBF # 8-fighting Raphael Butler
Tony Thompson(IBF #9, WBO #1)-fighting Klitschko
JD Chapman(WBC #13, WBA #9, WBO #7)
Travis Walker(WBC #14, WBO # 8 )

So that's 21 possible opponents , and 8 of those are busy leaving Haye with 13 possible opponents .

Ruiz
Dimitrenko
Maskaev
Golota
Meehan
Holmes
Bidenko
Johnson
Lyakhovich
Drumond
Ibragimov
Chapman
Walker


I did this list out a few weeks ago and didn't take into account when Haye would be fighting at heavy , as by November the Toney v Rahman winner should be ready to fight , infacy almost everyone on the first list should be .

The Artist

ODD-JOB wrote: »

strings pulled Haye has been shot to #5 in the world in the Heavyweight division , despite the fact he's only fought at heavy once !!

he's set to face a top 10 opponent suposedly !

its looking like another good year for boxing.

i looked at the heavyweight rankings and i couldn't see Haye?
Where did you find thats hes ranked 5?

The Artist

Big Ears wrote: »

Heavyweight , and he's legally contracted to have it against an opponent who's top 10 in one of the 4 major sanctioning organisations .

Which currently would leave us with :

Vladimir Virchis(WBC #1, WBO #3)-fighting Gomez
Juan Carlos Gomez(WBC #2)-fighting Virchis
John Ruiz(WBC #3, WBA #2, IBF #6, WBO #12)
Hasim Rahman(WBC #4, WBA #12, IBF #3, WBO #13)-fighting Toney
Alexander Dimitrenko(WBC #5, WBA #5, IBF #4, WBO #2)
Oleg Maskaev(WBC #6, IBF #7, WBO #6)
Chris Arreola(WBC #7, WBA #13, IBF #10, WBO #10)-fighting Chazz Witherspoon
Andrew Golota(WBC #8, WBA #6, IBF #11)
Kali Meehan(WBC #9, WBA #3, IBF #13, WBO #9)
Donnell Holmes(WBC #10)
Nicolei Valuev(WBA #1)-fighting Chagaev
Taras Bidenko(WBC #37, WBA #4)
Kevin Johnson(WBC #15 , WBA #7)
Sergui Lyakhovich(WBA # 8
Carl Davis Drumond(WBC #12, WBA #10, IBF #15)
Alexander Povetkin(IBF #1 , WBO #4)-fighting TBA , then Klitschko
Sultan Ibragimov(IBF #5 , WBO #5)
Eddie Chambers(IBF # 8-fighting Raphael Butler
Tony Thompson(IBF #9, WBO #1)-fighting Klitschko
JD Chapman(WBC #13, WBA #9, WBO #7)
Travis Walker(WBC #14, WBO # 8 )

So that's 21 possible opponents , and 8 of those are busy leaving Haye with 13 possible opponents .

Ruiz
Dimitrenko
Maskaev
Golota
Meehan
Holmes
Bidenko
Johnson
Lyakhovich
Drumond
Ibragimov
Chapman
Walker


I did this list out a few weeks ago and didn't take into account when Haye would be fighting at heavy , as by November the Toney v Rahman winner should be ready to fight , infacy almost everyone on the first list should be .

larry holmes pffffft that would be a set up!
Ruiz would be my choice?

Big Ears

Alan Ford wrote: »

i looked at the heavyweight rankings and i couldn't see Haye?
Where did you find thats hes ranked 5?

WBC ranked #5 due to being WBC(and WBA/WBO/Ring/Lineal) Cruiserweight champion and also having beaten Tomasz Bonin(who was ranked #11 by the WBC at the time) .

The Holmes is question is Donell Holmes , he's **** with a very padded record and he won't be Haye's opponent as he is a virtual unknown to almost everyone .

Ruiz or Maskaev would be the best choices , Ruiz despite his horrible style isn't actually that bad a fighter and is a genuine top 10 guy who is a test for anyone at heavy .

Rahman wouldn't be too bad either if he beats Toney .

Hero Of College

The majority of those guys would wax David in short order. You don't get KTFO by Carl Thompson and get floored by Lolenga Mock and Mormeck and suddenly add up to something at Heavyweight. Even Toney would still give him fits, as brain damaged and as busted as he is.

Hero Of College

Alan Ford wrote: »

larry holmes pffffft that would be a set up!
Ruiz would be my choice?

Ruiz has a slim {but spinnable} upside and a massive downside. He has the potential to make Haye look absolutely awful, even beat him. If Haye stops him then he can spin that into "Holy, Golota, Rahman,Valuev never did it...the Hayemaker is for real no one can handle my atletiffism at heavyweight and the sluts on Setanta think I'm sexy and so does Steve Dunce etc etc".....but the reality is that Ruiz savvy nature and Hayes inexperience would allow him to get sucked into a desperate trench fight which would do his credibility no favours.

He's better off going after Golota- who has the talent to put David into the Mayo Clinic for the rest of his life, but is unlikley to do so thanks to his own mental fragility. David could probably take advantage of Golotas own fragile skin to get a mid rounds stoppage.

Truth is that the sum total of Hayes intentions at Heavyweight are to talk himself into a very early fight with Klitschko and then try and get him out of there in 2 rounds. Of course it won't happen, but its going to be fun seeing him end up like Harrisson.

Hero Of College

Big Ears wrote: »

The Holmes is question is Donell Holmes , he's **** with a very padded record and he won't be Haye's opponent as he is a virtual unknown to almost everyone .

Sounds like a typical David opponent.

The Artist

Big Ears wrote: »

WBC ranked #5 due to being WBC(and WBA/WBO/Ring/Lineal) Cruiserweight champion and also having beaten Tomasz Bonin(who was ranked #11 by the WBC at the time) .

The Holmes is question is Donell Holmes , he's **** with a very padded record and he won't be Haye's opponent as he is a virtual unknown to almost everyone .

Ruiz or Maskaev would be the best choices , Ruiz despite his horrible style isn't actually that bad a fighter and is a genuine top 10 guy who is a test for anyone at heavy .

Rahman wouldn't be too bad either if he beats Toney .

soory about that i must be getting old!
i thought it was larry holmes(how stupid of me)
Yes Donell holmes il look him up to see who he is thanks.

Big Ears

This discussion is probably best in another thread but anyway

'The majority of those guys would wax David in short order. You don't get KTFO by Carl Thompson and get floored by Lolenga Mock and Mormeck and suddenly add up to something at Heavyweight. Even Toney would still give him fits, as brain damaged and as busted as he is.'

Well then you'll be delighted that he has to fight one of them in November , despite you constantly joke about him fighting TBA .

Here's the link to the Haye v Thompson fight so people can see what really happened and judge for themselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrdhYWWu1QQ&feature=related but unless I missed something at ringside , no one got knocked the **** out . 1 person got stopped on a towel from their corner when they punched themself out to the point of not being able to defend themself .

Juan Manuel Marquez got stopped by former World Champion Victor Rabanales at the very start of his career and obviously he turned out to be a bum.............wait no he didn't . Early losses are often good learning experiences for fighters . The Thompson fight was no exception .


'Truth is that the sum total of Hayes intentions at Heavyweight are to talk himself into a very early fight with Klitschko and then try and get him out of there in 2 rounds. Of course it won't happen, but its going to be fun seeing him end up like Harrisson.'

But wouldn't getting a shot at the best heavyweight champion very early into your heavyweight career be the opposite of Harrison ? , infact Harrison has never fought for a World title(well except WBF :rolleyes:)


'Ruiz has a slim {but spinnable} upside and a massive downside. He has the potential to make Haye look absolutely awful, even beat him. If Haye stops him then he can spin that into "Holy, Golota, Rahman,Valuev never did it...the Hayemaker is for real no one can handle my atletiffism at heavyweight and the sluts on Setanta think I'm sexy and so does Steve Dunce etc etc".....but the reality is that Ruiz savvy nature and Hayes inexperience would allow him to get sucked into a desperate trench fight which would do his credibility no favours.

He's better off going after Golota- who has the talent to put David into the Mayo Clinic for the rest of his life, but is unlikley to do so thanks to his own mental fragility. David could probably take advantage of Golotas own fragile skin to get a mid rounds stoppage'

So you admit that Haye not only has a good chance at beating both Ruiz and Golota but stopping both aswell . That's not bad for a guy destined to be the next Audley Harrison , considering beating either one of those guys is more than Harrison has done in his career .


'Sounds like a typical David opponent.'

Has David Haye ducked someone at Cruiserweight that I'm not aware of ? , and I don't mean Steve Cunningham as he's no better than Maccarinelli . It seems to me Haye beat very good opposition at Cruiserweight and did it in a very quick time period . He fought Carl Thompson , Alexander Gurov , Jean-Marc Mormeck and Enzo Maccarinelli in just 19 fights at Cruiserweight .

It just seems to me you really want Haye to be something he's not .

The Artist

Hero Of College wrote: »

Ruiz has a slim {but spinnable} upside and a massive downside. He has the potential to make Haye look absolutely awful, even beat him. If Haye stops him then he can spin that into "Holy, Golota, Rahman,Valuev never did it...the Hayemaker is for real no one can handle my atletiffism at heavyweight and the sluts on Setanta think I'm sexy and so does Steve Dunce etc etc".....but the reality is that Ruiz savvy nature and Hayes inexperience would allow him to get sucked into a desperate trench fight which would do his credibility no favours.

He's better off going after Golota- who has the talent to put David into the Mayo Clinic for the rest of his life, but is unlikley to do so thanks to his own mental fragility. David could probably take advantage of Golotas own fragile skin to get a mid rounds stoppage.

Truth is that the sum total of Hayes intentions at Heavyweight are to talk himself into a very early fight with Klitschko and then try and get him out of there in 2 rounds. Of course it won't happen, but its going to be fun seeing him end up like Harrisson.

yes i agree what you posted.
Golota,yes would be good test for haye alright.
That the problem with Haye as i think he dosent want to end up the same way as A Harrison.
His trainer/manager Adam Booth and Golden Boy Promotions will have to decide whos next.
Im sure Haye will not be another audley harrison imo.

Hero Of College

Mormeck, Macarinelli and Gurov had all been beaten/exposed by somebody else already. Compare that to a supposedly shot/dead man walking Wlad Klitschko taking on and beating undefeated and supposed killer Sam Peter. Then he did it again with Ibragimov. And now he is going to do it again with Thompson. Thats 3 fights against Undefeated Heavyweight contenders {Okay Thompson lost in his 6th fight but he's unbeaten since}. Haye beats Enzo and then refers to Klitschkos current streak in the most patronising fashion possible. He should keep his fu£king mouth shut. Who the f*ck does this guy think he is??


As far as I am concerned, he is fighting TBA until such a stage as they actually announce an opponent.

Hero Of College

Alan Ford wrote: »

yes i agree what you posted.
Golota,yes would be good test for haye alright.
That the problem with Haye as i think he dosent want to end up the same way as A Harrison.
His trainer/manager Adam Booth and Golden Boy Promotions will have to decide whos next.
Im sure Haye will not be another audley harrison imo.

There is no disputing that he doesn't want to end up like Audley. Who would. But the parallels are shocking. Neither of them has fought for or won in any other way a British, Commonwealth or European title at Heavyweight. They haven't even attempted, much less completed that basic trifecta of assignments that ALL British heavyweights must attempt before launching themselves on the world scene.

Hayes plot is simply this: fight nobody, make use of the rankings system, get into title contention and then hope he can bomb somebody out, a la Sanders with Wlad.

He knows himself that the more often he fights the more often he risks defeat and ridicule. So he keeps it to a minimum, fights TBA, and keeps running off at the mouth.

In the mean time, this joke is backed by the Britsh press corps and a major cable TV station, whilst his publicist Steve Dunce refers to Klitschko and co as a "Cabal".

I can't wait to see this chump get separated from his senses in front of his buddies some night.

The Artist

Hero Of College wrote: »

He should keep his fu£king mouth shut. Who the f*ck does this guy think he is??
He thinks hes Muhammad (I'm hard Bruce Lee)ali imo.:pac:

Big Ears

Hero Of College wrote: »

Mormeck, Macarinelli and Gurov had all been beaten/exposed by somebody else already. Compare that to a supposedly shot/dead man walking Wlad Klitschko taking on and beating undefeated and supposed killer Sam Peter. Then he did it again with Ibragimov. And now he is going to do it again with Thompson. Thats 3 fights against Undefeated Heavyweight contenders {Okay Thompson lost in his 6th fight but he's unbeaten since}. Haye beats Enzo and then refers to Klitschkos current streak in the most patronising fashion possible. He should keep his fu£king mouth shut. Who the f*ck does this guy think he is??


As far as I am concerned, he is fighting TBA until such a stage as they actually announce an opponent.

Being beaten doesn't make you exposed , even Ali , Sugar Ray Robinson lost some of the time . They were the best contenders available and he beat them , whatever your distaste for Haye is about you can't really say he has ducked guys . Haye did beat the undefeated Fragomeni but I didn't mention him because he's about at the same level at Cruiserweight as Tony Thompson is at heavyweight , and for the record just so you know Tony Thompson was knocked cold in a 3 round fight tournament similar to Barry Hearn's prizefighter a few years ago , the only thing was the tournament didn't count towards fighter official records . I think Mo Harris was the man to do it aswell .

Haye thinks he's the guy who will be fighting Wladamir Klitschko next year for the heavyweight championship of the World , that's why he's building this hype . If he kept his mouth shut no one would become interested in him and he mightn't get the fight until he became a mandatory defence .

Haye's had one fight at heavyweight , you can't really expect him to be a British/Commonwealth/European champion , plus he's shown himself to be #1 at the weight below . You didn't see Joe Calzaghe fight for the British title at Light-Heavyweight after leaving Super-Middleweight , no of course not because he's proven himself World Class .

They are very few parallels , there is little linking Haye and Audley the main one I can see is that they are black British heavyweights who you dislike both of them .


You say as far as your concerned it's TBA till they announce an opponent , well if Haye wants that fight on tv it's TBA opponent with a top 10 ranking and there is a hell of ****ing difference . Haye's opponent most likely will be better than Audley's ever faced and it would be only his second proper fight at the weight .

I've never seen attitudes in fighters more different to that of Haye and Audley Harrison .

Hero Of College

Alan Ford wrote: »

Hero Of College wrote: »

He should keep his fu£king mouth shut. Who the f*ck does this guy think he is??
He thinks hes Muhammad (I'm hard Bruce Lee)ali imo.:pac:

Turkish: He's Mustard.

Flattop: I don't care if he's....."Muhammad...I'm Hard...Bruce Lee"...

:D:D Classic.

The Artist

Hero Of College wrote: »

Alan Ford wrote: »

Turkish: He's Mustard.

Flattop: I don't care if he's....."Muhammad...I'm Hard...Bruce Lee"...

:D:D Classic.

yep a classic!

Hero Of College

Big Ears wrote: »

Being beaten doesn't make you exposed , even Ali , Sugar Ray Robinson lost some of the time . They were the best contenders available and he beat them , whatever your distaste for Haye is about you can't really say he has ducked guys . Haye did beat the undefeated Fragomeni but I didn't mention him because he's about at the same level at Cruiserweight as Tony Thompson is at heavyweight , and for the record just so you know Tony Thompson was knocked cold in a 3 round fight tournament similar to Barry Hearn's prizefighter a few years ago , the only thing was the tournament didn't count towards fighter official records . I think Mo Harris was the man to do it aswell .

Haye thinks he's the guy who will be fighting Wladamir Klitschko next year for the heavyweight championship of the World , that's why he's building this hype . If he kept his mouth shut no one would become interested in him and he mightn't get the fight until he became a mandatory defence .

Haye's had one fight at heavyweight , you can't really expect him to be a British/Commonwealth/European champion , plus he's shown himself to be #1 at the weight below . You didn't see Joe Calzaghe fight for the British title at Light-Heavyweight after leaving Super-Middleweight , no of course not because he's proven himself World Class .

They are very few parallels , there is little linking Haye and Audley the main one I can see is that they are black British heavyweights who you dislike both of them .


You say as far as your concerned it's TBA till they announce an opponent , well if Haye wants that fight on tv it's TBA opponent with a top 10 ranking and there is a hell of ****ing difference . Haye's opponent most likely will be better than Audley's ever faced and it would be only his second proper fight at the weight .

I've never seen attitudes in fighters more different to that of Haye and Audley Harrison .

Fragomeni was about the same size I am. And nearly as fat. I have more hair. And can probably fight better. And Fragomeni cut him something awful. And still yet it was at CRUISER. He's in heavyweight waters now and he had better let us know who HE is fighting before he mouths off about Wladimir "starting to make an impression".

For what its worth, Oleg Maskaev also stretched Vitali in the amateurs. David Tua stretched Ruiz. Guess what....they rebounded and won heavyweight championships. David did the same with Thompson, but that doesn't give him the right to talk smack about a 2-time champ with 9 defences or so under his, well, belt.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think much more of McDermott and that Welsh fella either that lost to Williams. I just don't like lippy Brits who have spotty records talking sh!t about what The Man is up to when they themselves have done fack all.

This is University. Nobody gives a toss how much of a man David Haye was down in Junior Infants.

In fairness to Fraudley, he has faced Guinn. I'd be pleasantly surprised if Haye fights a Guinn-esque fighter in the Winter.

Haye should have fought for the British/Commonwealth title by now...the truth is he pretends he is above but the reality is he is scared of taking fights he could well lose. He knows he is a chinny banger and that that kind of fighter can lose as easy as win. Thus he wants to cherry pick his way to a title. His beanie-hat inspired confrontation with Wlad on the stairs of a London Shopping Mall tells me all I need to know about him.

megadodge

This is a classic case of emotion overriding judgement.

You don't like David Haye. Fine.
As you say he is a chinny banger, albeit a very good one.
But don't go saying

I just don't like lippy Brits who have spotty records talking sh!t about what The Man is up to when they themselves have done fack all.

about a man who won the Undisputed World title at Cruiserweight. In virtually anyone's books that's a HELL of a lot more than "fack all" !!

You also seem to be suggesting that fighting for a British title is more worthwhile than fighting a Top 10 fighter ????? That's crazy talk.

It's pretty obvious that Haye is drumming up publicity in order to make an impression on the boxing world. This is hardly a new tactic !! I firmly believe he only wants to fight big names, whether or not he beats them with his iffy chin remains to be seen, but he certainly will bring a lot of life to an otherwise very boring heavyweight scene, with his mix of massive power, vulnerability and willingness to mix with the top guys.

Hero Of College

megadodge wrote: »

This is a classic case of emotion overriding judgement.

You don't like David Haye. Fine.
As you say he is a chinny banger, albeit a very good one.
But don't go saying



about a man who won the Undisputed World title at Cruiserweight. In virtually anyone's books that's a HELL of a lot more than "fack all" !!

You also seem to be suggesting that fighting for a British title is more worthwhile than fighting a Top 10 fighter ????? That's crazy talk.

It's pretty obvious that Haye is drumming up publicity in order to make an impression on the boxing world. This is hardly a new tactic !! I firmly believe he only wants to fight big names, whether or not he beats them with his iffy chin remains to be seen, but he certainly will bring a lot of life to an otherwise very boring heavyweight scene, with his mix of massive power, vulnerability and willingness to mix with the top guys.

1. His power isn't massive. If it was he wouldn't need home town help to win fights against the totally awesome Lolenga Mock. If his power was massive he would have had Carl Thompson out of it. Ezra Sellers did. Chris Eubank almost did. Try and remember that Enzo Mac finished the fight on his feet. Hayes power is getting more and more overrated by the day. Courtesy, of course, of Steve Dunce and associated compurgators.

2. Even if his power was massive, its massive at Cruiserweight. Always remember Audly had Bonin going too.

3. Whats this about his "willingness to mix it with the top guys"??? He hasn't fought any "top guys". When you are a heavyweight, the top guys are not MORMECK and Enzo Mac. Cruiserweight is Loserweight. Nobody cares about what he did down there. Hayes career starts in NOVEMBER as far as I am concerned. Cruiser was yester.

megadodge

His power IS massive. You don't have to be a boxing expert to see that whenever he lands cleanly he hurts people seriously.

He almost did have Carl Thompson out of it. I remember thinking that the ref could step in at any time in the 1st round. By the 2nd he was completely punched out ! And Ezra Sellars has even more power than Haye and an even worse chin. Eubank hurt Thompson in a brilliant fight but never looked like he really had him in serious bother. Thompson had serious recuperative powers.

As for Enzo, he was on his feet all right, in the same way a drunk being held up by his friends is !

3. Whats this about his "willingness to mix it with the top guys"??? He hasn't fought any "top guys". When you are a heavyweight, the top guys are not MORMECK and Enzo Mac.

Earlier in the post you were suggesting "how dare he" challenge a Top 10 heavy when he hadn't even won a British Heavy title, now you're putting him down by saying he hasn't fought any of the Top 10 ???? If he fights for a British title it won't be against a Top 10 heavy, so which is it ???

Hayes career starts in NOVEMBER as far as I am concerned.

Yup, a man who has won an Undisputed World Title has done nothing with his career !!!

As I said emotion has taken over here.

Hero Of College

megadodge wrote: »

His power IS massive. You don't have to be a boxing expert to see that whenever he lands cleanly he hurts people seriously.

Big difference between hurting guys {and not being able to get them out of there} and being a "massive puncher". How many times do you need to hit a guy flush before he finally goes. Either Thompson is George Chuvalo or David isn't a "massive puncher". And the Chris Eubank fight tells you the first is not true.

Megadodge wrote:

He almost did have Carl Thompson out of it. I remember thinking that the ref could step in at any time in the 1st round. By the 2nd he was completely punched out ! And Ezra Sellars has even more power than Haye and an even worse chin. Eubank hurt Thompson in a brilliant fight but never looked like he really had him in serious bother. Thompson had serious recuperative powers.

Enough said. And the name of Sellers is not one which sends shockwaves down the spines of all the big men. Ibeabuchis former sparring partner. :rolleyes:

Megadodge wrote:

As for Enzo, he was on his feet all right, in the same way a drunk being held up by his friends is !

Enzo is a willowy sort, and had been KTFO before. If David was as massive as they tell us he is, Enzo would never have gotten up. Thats my point.

Megadodge wrote:

Earlier in the post you were suggesting "how dare he" challenge a Top 10 heavy when he hadn't even won a British Heavy title, now you're putting him down by saying he hasn't fought any of the Top 10 ???? If he fights for a British title it won't be against a Top 10 heavy, so which is it ???

Skelton just fought for a world title. He'll do.

Megadodge wrote:

Yup, a man who has won an Undisputed World Title has done nothing with his career !!!

As I said emotion has taken over here.

He won it at Cruiser. The 130lb champ might be someone at 135. But the Cruiser is just a Loser at Heavyweight. Thats because the difference in punching power is huge. Because the strength needed to succeed is huge. Because everything is just different

I promise you...as far as the Heavyweight div is concerned...what David did at 200 won't matter a damn. Not because I say so, or the WBC says so, but because the parameters of heavyweight prize fighting says so.

Big Ears

Hero Of College wrote: »

Skelton just fought for a world title. He'll do.

He won it at Cruiser. The 130lb champ might be someone at 135. But the Cruiser is just a Loser at Heavyweight. Thats because the difference in punching power is huge. Because the strength needed to succeed is huge. Because everything is just different

I promise you...as far as the Heavyweight div is concerned...what David did at 200 won't matter a damn. Not because I say so, or the WBC says so, but because the parameters of heavyweight prize fighting says so.

Skelton is a Warren fighter and hence to fight him you'll most likely have to take options with Warren(which Haye really doesn't want) . Also Haye has put down a contest with Skelton cause he's not top 10 in anyone's rankings(deservedly so) so the fight wouldn't be allowed cause of his contract . Skelton was an easy voluntary for a belt holder at heavyweight , Haye's opponent will presumely be better or at least hold some sort of reputation(eg Rahman or Golota who aren't much nowdays but still have name value and a good ranking)

You might want to tell that last bit to Evander Holyfield , Roy Jones and Michael Spinks .


Like Megadodge I feel Haye has massive power , and heavyweights will struggle badly to take that power when it's is combined with Haye's speed(they won't see the punches coming) . Wlad is the only guy I can see at heavy who would have clearly better power than Haye .

megadodge

Seems to me no matter what Haye does it won't be good enough for you, simply because you don't like him !

I can't stand (never could) Sugar Ray Leonard but would rank him among the top 5 fighters of all time - easily ! [and no, that doesn't mean I'm comparing Haye to SRR]

Try being objective.

Matt Skelton is not in the Top 10 heavies in the world, nor does he deserve to be ! If Haye actually did fight him and beat him, we'd get the "how is beating a crude 40 year old brawler supposed to show us what Haye can do at heavy" excuse trotted out and I'd be inclined to agree. There are far better fighters out there than Skelton and because Haye wants to take one of them on you're giving out !! That makes no sense.

If Haye fought Klitchko I think it would be a case of whoever landed first as both have huge power and iffy chins. It wouldn't last longer than 3-4 rounds and I'd be fancying Vlad, but that doesn't mean Haye's no good.

Hero Of College

megadodge wrote: »

Seems to me no matter what Haye does it won't be good enough for you, simply because you don't like him !

I can't stand (never could) Sugar Ray Leonard but would rank him among the top 5 fighters of all time - easily ! [and no, that doesn't mean I'm comparing Haye to SRR]

Try being objective.

Matt Skelton is not in the Top 10 heavies in the world, nor does he deserve to be ! If Haye actually did fight him and beat him, we'd get the "how is beating a crude 40 year old brawler supposed to show us what Haye can do at heavy" excuse trotted out and I'd be inclined to agree. There are far better fighters out there than Skelton and because Haye wants to take one of them on you're giving out !! That makes no sense.

If Haye fought Klitchko I think it would be a case of whoever landed first as both have huge power and iffy chins. It wouldn't last longer than 3-4 rounds and I'd be fancying Vlad, but that doesn't mean Haye's no good.

Just my point. Skelton can't crack the top 10, {you say} but Haye is #5...and if they fought in the morning I would put every penny I have on Skelton brain damaging the guy inside of 8 rounds. Why? Because Skelton is a heavyweight, and David is a guy who weighs 218lbs, thats why. Because Skelton can take a dig, and Haye is a guy who got laid out by Carl Thompson and Lolenga Mock. Because the ridge of fat and muscle that connects Skeltons noggin to his shoulders is tougher than the one which connects Davids to his shoulders. Because Skelton won't sh!t his knickers are the first sign of adversity. Because Skeltons body won't drain its resources out in under 5 rounds.

RANKED and REGARDED are two different concepts.

Klitschko found it out against Purritty- and Haye will find it out against Skelton. For me, the singlemost biggest difference with Haye and guys like Klitschko is that Klitschko has fought an awful lot of David Hayes, in the same way that Vitali had fought an awful lot of Danny Williams. The opposite, the converse, is not true.

Honest to goodness, I think even a shot version of Danny Williams would fukc Dave up. He just can't handle the incoming.

megadodge

Haye is a guy who got laid out by Carl Thompson and Lolenga Mock

Why do you insist on lying ?

Do you think nobody will notice ?

Use facts to back up your arguments, not lies !

Klitschko found it out against Purritty

And he went on to achieve what exactly....
Oh yeah, REGARDED and RANKED heavyweight champ of the world !!

joepenguin

October:

24th:Lucian Bute vs Librado Andrade (IBF Super middeweight title)
Ronald Hearns vs Paul Clavette
Chris John vs Hiroyuki Enoki (WBA featherweight title)
WELTERWEIGHT PRIZEFIGHTER. Wright, Lloyd, Lomax, Bami, Hillyard, Minter, Dixon, Conway
Mike Oliver vs Antonio Escalante
Mikkel Kessler vs Danilo Haussler (WBA super middleweight title)
Howard Eastman vs Andrew Lewis (Guyanese middleweight title)
Carlos Quintana vs Joshua Onyango

26th:KILLARNEY CARD: Tims, O Sullivan, Perez, Fitzgerald, Ormond, Long, Casey, Waldron

29th:
Vivian Harris vs Octavio Narvaez

31st:

Matthew Macklin vs Geard Ajetovic
Julio Diaz vs Fernando Trejo
Darren McDermott vs TBA


November:


1st:
Felix Sturn vs Sebastian Sylvester WBA middleweight title
Daniel Ponce De Leon vs Damian David Marchiano
Cristian Mijares vs Vic Darchinyan (WBA,WBC,IBF Super flyweight title)
Vanes Martirosyan vs Charles Howe
Julio Cesar Chavez jr vs Matt Vanda


7TH:
Marco Antonio Bareera vs Sammy Ventura
Andrew Golota vs Ray Austin
Jamie McCline vs Mike Mollo
Thomas McDonagh vs Michael Monaghan
Marc Callaghan vs Akaash Bhatia
Andy Bell vs Lee Haskins
Bruce Seldon vs Brad Gregory


8th
Arthur Abraham vs Raul Marquez. IBF middlweight title
Junior Witter vs TBA
Danny Williams vs TBA
Joe Calzaghe vs Roy Jones Jr
Zab Judah vs TBA
Francisco Figueroa VS tba (gavin rees pulled out, suspected broken nose)


11th
Glen Johnson vs Tiwon Taylor

13th:
Peter Manfredo Jr vs Sakio Bika


14th:
Kell Brooke vs Kevin McIntyre (Britsh welterweight title)
Ricky Burns vs Yakubu Amidu (commonwelth super featherweight title)


15TH:
CASTLEBAR
Bernard Dunne, Stephen Haughian, Henry Coyle, John O Donnel, Steve Barnes vs TBA.
Damian Taggart vs Jevgenijs Fjodorovs

David Haye vs Monte Barret
Martin Lindsay vs TBA
Vincent Vuma vs Ryan Rhodes
Jermain Taylor vs Jeff Lacy
Kermit Cintron vs Lovemore N'dou


20th
Bobby Gunn vs TBA

21stSteve Molitor vs Celestino Caballero (IBF&WBA super bantamweight unification)
Mattew Marsh vs Rocky Dean
Colin Kenna vs Sam Sexton
John Duddy vs Sam Hill

22ndJason McKay vs TBA
Ricky Hatton vs Paulie Mallignaggi. Linear light welterweight world championship
Rey Bautista vs Heriberto Ruiz

25th
Henry Coyle vs Joseph Harden
Amin Asikainen vs Khoren Gevor

29th
Paul Williams vs Verno Phillips (interim WBO light middleweight title)
Chris Arreola vs Travis Walker

30th
Danny Williams vs Francois Botha (WBF Heavyweight title, Egypt)




December:
6th:
Jason McKay vs Wayne Elcock
Carl Froch vs Jean Pascal
Nick Cook vs TBA (WBO super feather title)
Amir Khan vs TBA
Steve Bendall vs Paul Smith (English middleweight title)
Oscar De La Hoya vs Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Lopez vs Sergio Manuel Medina (WBO Super bantamweight title)

11th:
Steve Cunningham vs Tomasz Adamek (IBF Cruiserweight title)

13thWladimir Klitschko vs Alexander Povetkin (IBF, WBO, IBO world heavyweight title)
Brian Magee vs Stevie Maguire (British super middleweight title)
John Murray vs Lee Mcallister (British light weight title)
Kendall Holt vs Ricardo Torres (WBO Light welterweight title)

18th:

Rendall Munroe vs Fabrizio Trotta (EBU Super bantamweight title) .. At the helix no less. what was that about not wanting to come to Ireland?
Darren Sutherland vs TBA

20thJoan Guzman vs Ameth Diaz




Amature international tournaments:

25/10-1/11 AIBA Youth World Boxing Championships - Guadalajara, Mexico

5th november: European Championships - Liverpool, England

21-30 november. 52nd World Military Boxing Championships - Baku, Azerbaijan

22-29 november AIBA Women World Boxing Championships - Ningbo City, China

december 10-14 1st AIBA World Cup - Moscow, Russia

december 14 1st European Women's Youth and Junior Championships - Yambol, Bulgaria

National amature tournaments:

October 31st National Under 21 Championships (Finals) national stadium

November 8th and 9th. Womens championships. National stadium

November 29th. Irish schoolboys vs English schoolboys. Ipswich

December 5th. National Intermediate Championships - Finals. National stadium.

December 5th. Ireland vs TBA. Derry.
December 7th. Ireland vs TBA. National stadium.

robtheblob

Upcoming fights, taken from here:

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February 2009
14/02/09 Alfredo Angulo vs. Ricardo Mayorga
14/02/09 Nate Campbell vs. Ali Funeka WBO Lightweight
20/02/09 The Prizefighters - Light Heavyweights
21/02/09 Miguel Cotto vs. Michael Jennings Welterweight
21/02/09 Kelly Pavlik vs. Marco Antonio Rubio WBC Middleweight
27/02/09 Rendall Munroe vs. Kiko Martinez
28/02/09 Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz Lightweight
28/02/09 Karo Murat vs. Cristian Sanavia
28/02/09 James DeGale vs. Vepkhia Tchilaia Middleweight
28/02/09 Matt Skelton vs. Martin Rogan Heavyweight
28/02/09 Frankie Gavin vs. George Kadaria Lightweight
28/02/09 Billy Joe Saunders vs. Attila Molnar Welterweight

March 2009
06/03/09 Jamie Moore vs. Michele Piccirillo Light Middleweight
06/03/09 Darren Sutherland vs. TBA Super Middleweight
14/03/09 Amir Khan vs. Marco Antonio Barrera Lightweight
14/03/09 Nicky Cook vs. Roman Martinez WBO Super Featherweight
14/03/09 Enzo Maccarinelli vs. Ola Afolabi WBO Cruiserweight
14/03/09 Arthur Abraham vs. TBA
21/03/09 Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba WBA Super Bantamweight
28/03/09 Ryan Rhodes vs. Anthony Small Light Middleweight
28/03/09 Tony Dodson vs. Brian Magee Super Middleweight

April 2009
07/03/09 Paul Appleby vs. Martin Lyndsey Featherweight


And fights on our TV:

February 2009
20/02/09 The Prizefighters - Light Heavyweights Sky Sports
21/02/09 Kelly Pavlik vs. Marco Antonio Rubio Setanta Sports
21/02/09 Miguel Angel Cotto vs. Michael Jennings Setanta Sports
27/02/09 Rendall Munroe vs. Kiko Martinez Sky Sports
28/02/09 Karo Murat vs. Cristian Sanavia Setanta Sports

March 2009
06/03/09 Jamie Moore vs. Michele Piccirillo Sky Sports
06/03/09 Darren Sutherland vs. TBA
14/03/09 Amir Khan vs. Marco Antonio Barrera Sky Box Office
14/03/09 Nicky Cook vs. Roman Martinez Sky Box Office
14/03/09 Enzo Maccarinelli vs. Ola Afolabi Sky Box Office
14/03/09 Arthur Abraham vs. TBA Setanata Sports
21/03/09 Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba RTE
28/03/09 Ryan Rhodes vs. Anthony Small Setanta Sports
28/03/09 Tony Dodson vs. Brian Magee Setanta Sports

April 2009
25/04/09 Paul Appleby vs. Martin Lindsay Setanta Sports

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