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  • 22-01-2008 11:26am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31


    Hello,

    Which subject combination would be the most successful at getting jobs

    French + Irish
    French + English
    French + Religion

    Thanks

    vale


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    vale wrote: »
    Hello,

    Which subject combination would be the most successful at getting jobs

    French + Irish
    French + English
    French + Religion

    Thanks

    vale

    Hi,

    Apparently there's a huge demand for Irish teachers at the moment, so I'd imagine that would be the best bet. There seems to be an abundance of English teachers, and not too sure what the market is for R.E teachers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    From all that I hear I would say that Irish and French would be a great combination - one a compulsory subject whcih would not churn out thousands of Arts graduates every year in the way that the likes of English and History do, and the other easily the most common continental language in schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 vale


    Anyone else? Also if I did Irish and French and English in first year could I then teach english to j.c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    vale wrote: »
    Anyone else? Also if I did Irish and French and English in first year could I then teach english to j.c.



    Since there's nobody else around I'll field this with my limited knowledge.

    It seems to me that there are two answers to the question of whether you could teach English to J.C. after one year's study. Officially any documentation I have looked at suggests that you teach what you have studied to degree level only. Informally, however, it seems to be standard practice in schools that teachers can routinely teach to J.C. level what they have studied for first year.

    Having said that with the abundance of English teachers alluded to by someone else and the fact that it is a core subject that everyone would do to Leaving Cert level (so it would be well covered for teachers presumably), having it as a third subject to J.C. level may not mean a whole lot in terms of your subsequent employability.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    If you haven't started college yet and want a guaranteed teaching job - Woodwork or Home Economics - they are like hen's teeth.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭annie19


    ive dun alot research as im filling out cao
    there shoutin out 4 irish teachers
    there so stuck there takin ppl without Hdip until they can get 1
    irish all d way is my advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    Only thing is in 4 years time, the demand may have changed so go with what you would prefer to do. Guaranteed jobs are only for wood, metal, applied Maths, agricultural economics, home ec, tech drawing and maybe pe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 551 ✭✭✭funktastic


    Yeah demand changes a lot. There will always be a lot of English/History teachers looking around for a job though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭gibo_ie


    we get huge demand for Irish teachers, almost guaranteed a job, next would be maths, then french, physics, english, history, geography and religion in that order.

    We had jobs for french teachers we could not get qualified staff to fill.

    On a note about home/ec teachers, we have about 70 registered who cant get work and no incoming jobs for that subject either :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    gibo_ie wrote: »
    On a note about home/ec teachers, we have about 70 registered who cant get work and no incoming jobs for that subject either :(

    Somewhere the communications have broken down. I work for the largest VEC in the country - we have a Home Ec. room lying idle and a class who had to give the subject up after two years because we couldn't get a teacher. Can't believe there are 70 out there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭gibo_ie


    spurious wrote: »
    Somewhere the communications have broken down. I work for the largest VEC in the country - we have a Home Ec. room lying idle and a class who had to give the subject up after two years because we couldn't get a teacher. Can't believe there are 70 out there.

    thats is a shame. We have a serious amount of these people registered, some calling weekly to find if there are any jobs going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭BULLER


    What is the demand like for the science jobs? I heard there was a high demand but noone has mentioned it in this thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    BULLER wrote: »
    What is the demand like for the science jobs? I heard there was a high demand but noone has mentioned it in this thread...



    i think it just depends from place to place. I have friends from college who have plenty of experience who can't get contract jobs and are doing maternity leave/subbing on the other hand, our physics teacher is on maternity leave and her job was advertised several times and we couldn't get a replacement. In the end a lad straight out of college was hired who has no teaching experience because they couldn't get anyone else.

    It probably depends on where people want to live and work too. More popular areas will attract more applicants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 946 ✭✭✭Enright


    from my limited knowledge, their will be a lot of science teachers retiring in the next few years, however they are mainly ag science teachers

    woodwork teachers seem to be always in demand, espcially up the west of the country.

    My own opinion would be to have irish rather that re or english, but are you picking subjetcs that you think will be in demand? should you not oick subjects that you love? if you like the subjects, it will shown in your passion for those and should make you a better teacher of those subjects, this should be evident at interview, thus making you more employable.

    teachers get a foot in the door based on subjects, they usually come in as subs, if you are good enough and if the hours are available, the schools are willing to accomadate you. remember full time jobs straight off are scarce so having a range of subjects and in particular the ability to be flexible are often more valuable to a school in the long term.

    so to conclude, my advice is to choose the subjects you love or the ones you liked best at school


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