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Newbie - Want a P90, where to buy and what to look for?

  • 22-01-2008 12:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭


    Am interested in buying my first airsoft!
    I want it to be a P90, so the questions follow....

    Where can I buy it form?
    What comes with it?
    What else do I NEED to buy?
    What else is RECOMMENDED to buy?
    Any other relevant info!!!

    Any help regarding these questions would be great!

    Also, I know I ain't the first new guy to make a post like this, so please take it easy on me as I will start to cry and I will tell my mummy on all of yous :(
    :):):):):);)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,806 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    SLIM19198 wrote: »
    Am interested in buying my first airsoft!
    I want it to be a P90, so the questions follow....

    Where can I buy it form?
    What comes with it?
    What else do I NEED to buy?
    What else is RECOMMENDED to buy?
    Any other relevant info!!!

    Any help regarding these questions would be great!

    Also, I know I ain't the first new guy to make a post like this, so please take it easy on me as I will start to cry and I will tell my mummy on all of yous :(
    :):):):):);)




    you should maybe start off with something else, iv heard p90 can be fiddly

    little things.


    there a bit high end to be starting out on

    but eirsoft and airsofteire sell them


    this is my 300th post woooh!

    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Evolute


    Your looking for a TM P90 TR.
    You can get them off numerous site like
    www.uncompany.com
    www.wgcshop.com
    www.eirsoft.ie
    www.airsofteire.com
    With the TM P90 TR depending on if you decide to include a battery and charger
    In the box you will get the P90, suppressor(silencer to most people), a cleaning rod, a loading rod ,a few bbs and a low cap magazine.

    No P90s are not that fiddly but yes the hi caps do need a tap every once in a while and what is up with starter guns they dont exist at the end of it all AEGs are the same components and they are expensive so theres no real point in buying an AEG you dont like the look of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    SLIM19198 wrote: »
    Am interested in buying my first airsoft!
    I want it to be a P90, so the questions follow....

    Where can I buy it form?
    What comes with it?
    What else do I NEED to buy?
    What else is RECOMMENDED to buy?
    Any other relevant info!!!

    1. Ehobbyasia, uncompany, etc etc. Check out the newbie sticky for details about retailers.

    2. A magazine and some bbs. Possibly a loader and a cleaning rod.

    3. A battery and a charger.

    4. Extra magazines.

    5 Classic army are on the verge of releasing a cheaper version of the P90 (Before that the only decent one was made by Tokyo Marui and cost quite a bit) It's worth googling for some info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    So, what would you recommend about the same size as a p90?

    Also, fiddly I dont mind, fairly technically and mechanically adept at this stage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,806 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    SLIM19198 wrote: »
    So, what would you recommend about the same size as a p90?

    Also, fiddly I dont mind, fairly technically and mechanically adept at this stage!

    grand, the person i heard it off wasnt:D




    :cool::cool::cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    Don't be tempted by clone P90's. They have a dreadful record.

    What's your price range if you don't mind me asking? There are other options but some are more expensive than others.

    The FN2000 comes to mind immediately. Fairly cheap too. The TM MP7 is also a cracking option (I have one myself)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    NakedDex wrote: »
    The TM MP7 is also a cracking option (I have one myself)

    The TM mp7, although pretty cool, isn't really a proper AEG. It's closer to being an AEP. I'd recommend an AEG to a newbie to be honest.

    Nothing wrong with the TM P90. Fiddly my arse ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,806 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    o1s1n wrote: »

    Nothing wrong with the TM P90. Fiddly my arse ;)


    watch your language mister!


    what have the mods become :rolleyes:



    my friend bought one and he said a lot of bb's jammed and he had some sort

    of trouble with the gearbox



    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Just got a TM P90 TR, fantastic little thing very happy with mine i have to say! As for the Hicaps it seems once you keep them maintained you'll be grand with them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    NakedDex wrote: »
    Don't be tempted by clone P90's. They have a dreadful record.

    What's your price range if you don't mind me asking? There are other options but some are more expensive than others.

    The FN2000 comes to mind immediately. Fairly cheap too. The TM MP7 is also a cracking option (I have one myself)

    Price range is not much of an issue (I have learned in the past its better to save for the better option than buy 2~3 of the cheaper option and work your way up!)

    So, basically what I am looking for is a beginners setup (gun/ammo/mags/battery) and anything else required for maintenance and upkeep!

    Also for the aesthetics, the P90 just gives me chills every time I see it! No other gun can do this to me :p


    Any one out there selling a cheap P90 setup? ;-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    blay1 wrote: »
    watch your language mister!


    what have the mods become :rolleyes:



    my friend bought one and he said a lot of bb's jammed and he had some sort

    of trouble with the gearbox



    :cool::cool::cool:

    Nothing wrong with the word arse :p

    I know several people who have bought the TM p90 as their first AEG (and second, or third..or forth..) and have had absolutely no problems whatsoever.

    Any AEG can jam. With Tokyo Marui AEGs, It's not so much a problem with the particular model as they all function in a similar manner. It's more to do with random malformed bbs, a dodgy AEG itself, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    I think you should wait and see what the new Classic Army Sportsline P90 is like, it could be very very good...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    zero19 wrote: »
    I think you should wait and see what the new Classic Army Sportsline P90 is like, it could be very very good...

    How long would one be waiting to see though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    zero19 wrote: »
    I think you should wait and see what the new Classic Army Sportsline P90 is like, it could be very very good...

    I totally agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,806 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with the word arse :p

    Any AEG can jam. With Tokyo Marui AEGs, It's not so much a problem with the particular model than random malformed bbs, a dodgy AEG itself, etc.

    from a mod its wrong:D



    yeah i guess so



    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Not sure, had i known it was coming out i would have held out a while on buying mine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Evolute


    SLIM19198 wrote: »
    Price range is not much of an issue (I have learned in the past its better to save for the better option than buy 2~3 of the cheaper option and work your way up!)

    So, basically what I am looking for is a beginners setup (gun/ammo/mags/battery) and anything else required for maintenance and upkeep!

    Also for the aesthetics, the P90 just gives me chills every time I see it! No other gun can do this to me :p


    Any one out there selling a cheap P90 setup? ;-)

    Check the adverts section for someone selling something
    Also a can of silicone oil is invaluble to the maintenance of an AEG
    although not a neccesity to the running of the aeg out of the box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Cheeky monkey


    The p90 isn't fiddly but you should really do a few upgrades to it just to pimp it but tbh its still a beast just outta the box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭NakedDex


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The TM mp7, although pretty cool, isn't really a proper AEG. It's closer to being an AEP. I'd recommend an AEG to a newbie to be honest.

    Nothing wrong with the TM P90. Fiddly my arse ;)

    That is true actually, I constantly think of it as an aeg. I was shocked at the range given it's size to be honest, thats what has me thinking of it more highly than an aep.



    P90's are lovely things. However there's no such thing as a cheap P90 set up due to the price of the mags. The mags however, are works of art in the way they work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    but you should really do a few upgrades to it just to pimp it but tbh its still a beast just outta the box

    Folks, a lot of you seem to be forgetting that all Tokyo Marui AEGs shoot and act around the same out of the box. Some have longer barrels and are a bit more accurate. But to be honest, they're all very similar. Once buying ANY Tokyo Marui model you could consider upgrading it.

    Anyway, he's only new. Upgrading is a long way off. OP, It'll work fine and complete with other peoples AEGs out of the box without doing anything to it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    ive never heard of any issues with the TM P90., its a bid inderpowered out of the box but with a 1J spring it'll be fine, theres a few other mods you could do and you will have a cracking AEG.,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭hoplite


    Depends on budget,

    If you have €140 to spend and you are starting off then

    Classic Army M4 Sportline
    or
    JG G36c

    Both solid AEGs

    I imagine the new CA sportline models released later on in the year will also be very good starter AEGs.

    Around €250 geta you a TM P90, its a nice AEG if that sort of look floats your boat :p

    Magazines are quite expensive for the P90 with no reliable clone mags that I am aware of.

    To be honest for €250 to €300 you cant go wrong with a Classic army or Tokyo Maruii to start off with. Bear in mind that with the TM & CA AEGs you also have to budget for a battery and charger too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    hoplite wrote: »
    Depends on budget,

    If you have €140 to spend and you are starting off then

    Classic Army M4 Sportline
    or
    JG G36c

    id reccomend both of the above, got the sportline for a mate lst week and it has a great ROF, high torque motor, precision motor and a cool design for dismantling the body., the JG G36c is hard as nails, very accurate with a 6.04 barrel and good ROF, its very compact with the stock folded too.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    vtec wrote: »
    ive never heard of any issues with the TM P90., its a bid inderpowered out of the box but with a 1J spring it'll be fine, theres a few other mods you could do and you will have a cracking AEG.,

    P90 isnt under powered its an ideal piece of kit for HRTA ,cant go wrong with them, only problem im aware of is the 300rnd mags jam if you load over 280bbs in them ,as i found out last saturday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    not much point in waiting for CA sportline P90, there is no confirmed release date yet, could be any time in the next year

    stock TM p90 will do you fine, the only fiddly thing about them is the 300 round hi-cap mag, you will need to spray a little bit of silicone oil into the gears inside the mag every now and again and ensure you keep the internals clean, other than that, they are fine and very reliable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    OP,

    If money isn't a major issue and you are handy technically (not really needed with a TM, the hi cap just needs oiling :confused:) you would do well with a p90.

    They are accurate for their size, high rof, and with a TM being able to fix the gun becomes less of an issue, you probably wont need to basically.

    And you will have a cool and unique aeg to bring to hrta, g36 and m4 seem to be everywhere, and the m14.

    Fitting a tight bore barrel would further increase accuracy and would be easy enough for most people comfortable working on anything, the 1 joule spring, you'd want to research gearbox maintenance and disassembly first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Dr_Pepper


    Also stickm a 9.6v in it and youll end up reloading those 300round mags every few seconds :) ..

    OH you know what i mean Gatling ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    as DR Pepper pointed out add a 9.6 battery and you get an awesome rate of fire ,add a M203 launcher to complete the package


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭IronWolf


    Best wait until SHOT Show starts and see what CA's P90 will be like (both sportline and hi-grade).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    the CA is looking like a rumour some body threw a list out there ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭IronWolf


    The list was publicly announced by a Spartan Imports staffer on Arnies. Spartan Imports are one of the biggest US distributors of CA and other airsoft manufacturers products.

    Spartan Imports will apparently be showcasing the guns in SHOT Show 08 (02 Feb - 05 Feb), so I guess we'll know for sure then.

    The staffer who posted the information (username: Orca) has always been on the money before, so I'd be interested to see where you've heard otherwise :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    So, recommendations really are
    1: Buy a cheaper starter and work way up!
    2: wait to see what the CA bring out next month
    3: Jump in and buy a P90
    4: buy extra mags/ammo and batteries for whatever I buy?
    5: forget it all and get drunk :p (not an option, am a teetotaller ;) )

    Thanks for all the advice lads, will probably watch the for sale forums for summat to toy around with a while and see what the CA announce next month! Am defo gonna get a P90, wether its the TM or the CA is the only decision now!

    Also, whats with all the different models of P90 available, is there anywhere that explains all the differences in the available P90's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭IronWolf


    There are two different TM versions, the differences are mostly aesthetic:

    TM RDS version: Features black coloured lower receiver, one side rail and integrated RDS.

    tm-p90.jpg

    TM TR (triple rail) version: Features grey coloured lower receiver, three rails (one scope rail, two smaller side rails), also comes with free socom style silencer.

    tm_aeg_p90tr.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭cherubaul


    SLIM19198 wrote: »
    So, what would you recommend about the same size as a p90?

    Also, fiddly I dont mind, fairly technically and mechanically adept at this stage!

    Sig 552 has the exact same inner barrel length
    its a nice attractive gun.
    there is a decent clone available from Jing Gong
    has a folding stock so its easy to handle in cqb as well as being a great woodland competitor.
    has a side rail
    has a bottom rail for anything from a mini launcher to a taclight
    can be fitted with a $10 top rail for optics
    excellent iron sights.

    cons: Can only take 8.4 volt minis
    battery fitting may be fiddly during a skirmish
    quite a complicated gun to strip down.

    Having briefly owned a P90(TM) and currently owning a Sig 552 (TM). the performance of both is exceptional but i found that the P90 in my hands at least wasnt as pointable as a conventional rifle type and was harder to acquire targets quickly.

    That said it is unbelievably accurate thanks to its integral red dot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    I recently just bought the TM RDS version of the P90.
    Amazing bit of Kit! I specifically wanted the RDS version
    cos wel......you get a Red Dot site!!! Can always get a silencer
    later and use it on several different AEG's but the RDS site on the TM P90
    looked like it was designed specifically for it.

    ~B


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    Thanks for all the info lads, have taken the plunge and ordered the P90 TR, just waiting on it to arrive (~14 days)

    Im like a kid waiting for XMAS to arrive ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    You won't regret it, hope you ordered a sling, RDS and mags too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,590 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    SLIM19198 wrote: »

    Im like a kid waiting for XMAS to arrive ;-)

    You think you're bad now? Just wait till you see yourself trying to tear the wrapping off it once it arrives :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    Am salivating already just picturing the postman handing it to me :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Hopefully you won't get hit by customs!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭SLIM19198


    Nah, bought from airsofteire, but they have to wait for stock of the TR, didnt want the RDS!


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