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Clerical Officer with Civil Service, worth it??

  • 18-01-2008 11:43pm
    #1
    onak07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭


    Im in my final year in college and applied to the civil service, just to see what happened. I got an email to say i passed the aptitude test but I got a placement number. I presume an interview is next but they said they would be in contact. Does anyone know anything about these placement numbers, what exactly they mean?? And if i got a job, is it worth joining as a clerical officer when i have a degree? would i be earning the same as someone who is just out of school??


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  • #2
    Saibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    depending on your placement number they might call the first 40 people placed for interview first then the next 20 etc.

    if you did go for clerical officer, you might not get much use of your degree, depends what department you are picked to join.

    check www.publicjobs.ie to see if there is any upcoming executive officers exams coming up which is two grades higher than c.o. (don't know if they hold anymore open executive officers exams)


  • #3
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    see if there is any upcoming executive officers exams coming up which is two grades higher than c.o. (don't know if they hold anymore open executive officers exams)

    there was an open EO exam about 18 months ago so there could be some coming up again soon keep an eye on the website.EO is one grade up from CO


  • #4
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    isnt SO one up from EO?


  • #5
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    SO and EO are the same level.

    TBH it depends on what your degree is in and what you want to do in life.


  • #6
    stepbar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    jonny24ie wrote: »
    SO and EO are the same level.

    No they're not!


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  • #7
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    stepbar, in principle they are not the same grade but anyone in the civil service will tell you there is actually feck all difference between an EO and SO.

    Either you will have an SO in charge or CO's or an EO but never both!!


  • #8
    miju
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    have to agree with jonny24ie , there is next to no difference between SO & EO within the civil service. and indeed if im not mistaken the SO starting wage is higher than an EOs starting wage but the EOs increments overtakes an SOs pretty quickly
    ulster wrote: »
    if you did go for clerical officer, you might not get much use of your degree, depends what department you are picked to join.

    the same will more than likely apply if you are an EO an to some extent HEO as well. though it does depend on the degree.


  • #9
    stepbar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    When I worked in the Civil Service (abeit 2 years ago), a SO did SFA compared to an EO. Fairly menial work at the end of the day TBH.


  • #10
    Nolanger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    It makes no difference as a CO if you have a degree or not.
    What usually happens is that the COs in the office the longest generally run the place and tell every one else what to do.
    What really matters is can you work with these people?


  • #11
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    miju wrote: »
    have to agree with jonny24ie , there is next to no difference between SO & EO within the civil service. and indeed if im not mistaken the SO starting wage is higher than an EOs starting wage but the EOs increments overtakes an SOs pretty quickly



    the same will more than likely apply if you are an EO an to some extent HEO as well. though it does depend on the degree.

    An EO start off is 28,500 (Roughly) and an SO is 32,500 (Roughly), If anyone is in the civil service and are thinking of climbing from the bottom your best bet is to go from CO to SO then to EO. The wages take a huge jump. I am currently serving as an SO and I have a higher rate of pay than most EO's that are in the service the same time as me because the went from CO to EO directly. An SO actually earns more than an EO for a good long time, see the below charts.
    Revised pay with effect from 1 December 2005 for established officers appointed on or after 6 April 1995 paying the Class A rate of PRSI contribution and making an employee contribution in respect of personal superannuation benefits for General Service Grades.

    EO Standard Scale
    28,441 - 30,518 - 32,115 - 33,660 - 35,201 - 36,708 - 38,231 - 39,713 - 41,240 - 42,252 - 43,690 - 45,125

    Staff Officer
    32,508 - 33,926 - 35,206 - 36,355 - 37,515 - 38,674 - 39,837 - 40,960 - 42,020 - 43,4022


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  • #12
    stepbar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Nolanger wrote: »
    It makes no difference as a CO if you have a degree or not.
    What usually happens is that the COs in the office the longest generally run the place and tell every one else what to do.
    What really matters is can you work with these people?

    True


  • #13
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    stepbar wrote: »
    When I worked in the Civil Service (abeit 2 years ago), a SO did SFA compared to an EO. Fairly menial work at the end of the day TBH.

    Well it depends on where you work TBH. Where I am (In an IT area) I am a developer and for the last 7 months I have done equipment tracking, stocking, cleaning and maintaining certain equipment within our store room. I know of EO's in the office that actually had a hell of alot less responsibility than me.


  • #14
    Kimbot
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    Nolanger wrote: »
    It makes no difference as a CO if you have a degree or not.
    What usually happens is that the COs in the office the longest generally run the place and tell every one else what to do.
    What really matters is can you work with these people?

    Thats bull IMO. I have only ever seen that once of twice in my time in the service.
    If there is 10 CO's in an office and no EO/SO then someone is left in charge and that is the most senior CO as appointed by their bosses.


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