which martial art would suit my size

timetogetfit · 16-01-2008 10:49pm #1

Im 6ft tall, I am a bit overweight im 20 stone but I have a big build and Im strong and have wide shoulders, I suppose you could say im a stauky rugby player type build?Ive done a few classes of taekwon do before but there is no way I could ever do high kicks, I just dont have the flexibilty?

SorGan · 16-01-2008 10:54pm

its all relaxed muscle man..get your ass into a judo club and dominate:D

dlofnep · 16-01-2008 11:12pm

Judo totally!

timetogetfit · 16-01-2008 11:17pm

what about bjj

Colm_OReilly · 16-01-2008 11:27pm

At 20 stone any martial art is going to be taxing on your system until you lose weight and get stronger.

Submission Wrestling/BJJ would be a good idea though, as your size would come in as an advantage earlier in your development.

Baggio... · 16-01-2008 11:29pm

How about Muai Thai? It's great training...

Check it out:
http://www.chupasart.com

RedRaven · 16-01-2008 11:37pm

timetogetfit wrote: »

Im 6ft tall, I am a bit overweight im 20 stone but I have a big build and Im strong and have wide shoulders, I suppose you could say im a stauky rugby player type build?Ive done a few classes of taekwon do before but there is no way I could ever do high kicks, I just dont have the flexibilty?

What percentage of your body weight is excess mate, you may not be flexible at the moment but I would rule high kicks until you lose the weight etc, you never know!!:)

arybvtcw0eolkf · 16-01-2008 11:39pm

Sumo!.

timetogetfit · 16-01-2008 11:43pm

Sumo!.

Alas cork has yet to cater for the sport of my calling

arybvtcw0eolkf · 16-01-2008 11:46pm

Oh well.

But seriously do you do any type of training at all?.

It would see to me that Judo would be a good choice for someone of your size.

timetogetfit · 16-01-2008 11:55pm

i lift weights which contributes to alot of my bulk

timetogetfit · 17-01-2008 12:04am

why judo for me over say bjj, arent they similar?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-01-2008 12:04am

timetogetfit wrote: »

i lift weights which contributes to alot of my bulk

You must be a serious lifter to weight that.

timetogetfit · 17-01-2008 12:13am

No im a casual lifter I weigh that much because Im a serious lifter of pints

FiannaGym.com · 17-01-2008 12:26am

Hi,

Your size should have nothing to do with your choice of martial art styles.
Maybe you'd find a gym with similar sized partners so you dont become dependent on your size.

I would recommend Submission Wrestling, Boxing, Thai Boxing, MMA, Judo or BJJ. Once you get started you'll get to know different styles as you do. You might find it hard to get a Gi (the white suit worn by BJJ players and Judoka) at your size but Im sure it'll be grand.

Really your choice of Martial Arts styles should come down to your goals and what your interested it, think you'll enjoy.

Peace

dunkamania · 17-01-2008 11:08am

timetogetfit wrote: »

I just dont have the flexibilty

How many hours a week do you put into stretching?

Its something that improves with practice.

deegs · 17-01-2008 11:32am

Well Im 6ft and im 20stone, built like a rugby player and i train at kendo, suits me grand, check it out at www.corkbudokai.org

filament · 17-01-2008 12:57pm

i was nearly 20 stone when i started bjj
im 17 now and being big is great

it's serious advantage you have over most people and helps you to practice competitively quicker i think, judo would also be fantastic

arybvtcw0eolkf · 17-01-2008 2:09pm

deegs wrote: »

Well Im 6ft and im 20stone, built like a rugby player and i train at kendo, suits me grand, check it out at www.corkbudokai.org

Sorry for going off topic, but I've given serious consideration to Kendo. I'd love to give it a go.

deegs · 17-01-2008 2:16pm

Mairt wrote: »

Sorry for going off topic, but I've given serious consideration to Kendo. I'd love to give it a go.

Its got a lot to offer, its one of the hardest arts out there but you get a lot more personal rewards aswell, there is a big international tournament in dublin this weekend you should pop along to see what its all about
http://www.irishkendofederation.org/iigt.php

Nothingcompares · 17-01-2008 4:42pm

I'd love to do a bit of Kendo too but I'd be more interested in the hitting people with swords part rather than some kind of meditative/spiritualistic thing.

deegs · 17-01-2008 5:30pm

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I'd love to do a bit of Kendo too but I'd be more interested in the hitting people with swords part rather than some kind of meditative/spiritualistic thing.

Trust me there is a lot of that too

Ive never been able to safely hit someone so hard

timetogetfit · 17-01-2008 5:46pm

Is kendo just sword fighting or are you learned how to fight and defend yourself without a katana

deegs · 17-01-2008 7:32pm

no not per say, but the sense of confidence, timing, distance and reading your opponent I feel really would help in a weaponless situation.

personally I did karate for 5/6 years and am shodan and I feel I learned way more in my 2 years of kendo.

ymmv and kendo aint for everyone but if it is its absolutely amazing!

ColinJennings · 17-01-2008 7:50pm

You don't start off flexible. One of my friends is 'big boned' and is much more flexible than me, even though we would be doing TKD for roughly equal lengths of time. You slowly get more and more flexible as time goes by.

His extra size is also a huge advantage as he finds power much easier than me and he dominates in sparing, compared to lil 5'4 me!

nij · 19-01-2008 3:14pm

nobody has the required flexibility for martial arts kicking when they start out. If you're serious about wanting to do it, you just have to train and train and train. Devise a strength and flexibility programme for yourself (of get a fitness trainer to do it if you're unsure).

It really is the case that you don't do martial arts to get fit - you get fit to do martial arts.

Roper · 19-01-2008 7:08pm

nij wrote: »

It really is the case that you don't do martial arts to get fit - you get fit to do martial arts.

Nah that's bollox. If that was the case no one would ever start because the fitness required is so specific. It's a bit like saying I want to join a running club so I'll go rock climbing for a while to get fit enough first.

There's nothing in the "fitness" world to prepare you so you just jump straight in.

cowzerp · 19-01-2008 8:25pm

Roper wrote: »

Nah that's bollox. If that was the case no one would ever start because the fitness required is so specific. It's a bit like saying I want to join a running club so I'll go rock climbing for a while to get fit enough first.

There's nothing in the "fitness" world to prepare you so you just jump straight in.

Agreed..

nij · 24-01-2008 3:26pm

Roper wrote: »

Nah that's bollox. If that was the case no one would ever start because the fitness required is so specific. It's a bit like saying I want to join a running club so I'll go rock climbing for a while to get fit enough first.

There's nothing in the "fitness" world to prepare you so you just jump straight in.

Well that depends. I've seen many a fat blackbelt wobble around trying to stand on one foot. The point is, if you want to do martial arts properly, you must get fit. If you do TKD, and you have to perform a jump spinning back kick for a grading, you'll have to get fit enough to do it. The OP said he ruled out TKD because he wasn't flexible enough. Nobody is flexible enough or strong enough to do it when they start out.

You can do Tae Bo to get fit, as nothing is expected of you in a Tae Bo class.

Doofis · 07-02-2008 2:04pm

timetogetfit wrote: »

No im a casual lifter I weigh that much because Im a serious lifter of pints

Sasquatch, go to the judo

cowzerp · 07-02-2008 2:13pm

nij wrote: »

Well that depends. I've seen many a fat blackbelt wobble around trying to stand on one foot. The point is, if you want to do martial arts properly, you must get fit. If you do TKD, and you have to perform a jump spinning back kick for a grading, you'll have to get fit enough to do it. The OP said he ruled out TKD because he wasn't flexible enough. Nobody is flexible enough or strong enough to do it when they start out.

You can do Tae Bo to get fit, as nothing is expected of you in a Tae Bo class.

So you should get fit to do sports?? the sport will make you fit and not only fit but sport specific fit, tae bo is aerobics with scabby punches and kicks-not usually taught by martial arts people! when i joined boxing i had bad asthma which disapeared quick because my lungs got so strong (thats what the doc said when i done my 1st boxing medical) plus i learned how to box while getting fit.

Roper · 07-02-2008 2:33pm

nij wrote: »

Well that depends. I've seen many a fat blackbelt wobble around trying to stand on one foot. The point is, if you want to do martial arts properly, you must get fit. If you do TKD, and you have to perform a jump spinning back kick for a grading, you'll have to get fit enough to do it. The OP said he ruled out TKD because he wasn't flexible enough. Nobody is flexible enough or strong enough to do it when they start out.

You can do Tae Bo to get fit, as nothing is expected of you in a Tae Bo class.

Why are certain things "expected of you" in your martial arts class? Like being able to do a jump spinning back kick? Oddly enough, when I was doing TKD, I got to be able to do those kicks by just doing those kicks, over and over again. I didn't go running or get fit to do them, they made me fit to do them!

Dragan · 07-02-2008 3:38pm

Roper wrote: »

There's nothing in the "fitness" world to prepare you so you just jump straight in.

I absolutely and totally agree with this. I am a big strong and pretty fit character, my first BJJ class knocked the hell out of me because i lacked specific conditioning for it!

Get into the class and start doing it or nothing is ever gonna happen.

People who talk about "needing to be healthy" to do a sport are missing the point in my opinion.

which martial art would suit my size

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