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Your Motorcycle Garrage

  • 16-01-2008 9:56am
    #1
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭


    Hi, a word of warning, I gave my bike into a fairly well known (North Wicklow) bike shop for servicing. They managed to drop the bike!!! Causing over €4,500 worth of damage. It turns out they are, apparently, operating with no insurance leaving me, over one year later, having to get the bike repaired myself and pursuing the owner personally. Make sure you know who you are handing your bike over to.:mad:


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  • #2
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Names would be a good idea


  • #3
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    I cannot name as i am persuing legals against this "Bray" located shop.


  • #4
    egan007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    The worst thing about this (apart from the damage) is not the fact that he is not insured it's the fact that he's not paying for the damage!

    So they blankly refused to acknowledge or pay?!
    Disgrace....


  • #5
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I'm sure everyone will know who you mean. Is it a large well known shop ?


  • #6
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    it is not a "Brand Dealership" but it is well known!!!


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  • #7
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Most shops have to have a 'road' insurance policy, to test drive etc. But beware, many of these are third party only, which may be why you are left having to stump up, op.


  • #8
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    how in the world could they cause 4.5k worth of damage from dropping it?


  • #9
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Zascar wrote: »
    how in the world could they cause 4.5k worth of damage from dropping it?
    Isnt that term used when youve 'dropped' the bike when riding. Its what I get told... damn, I dropped the bike....


  • #10
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    KtK wrote: »
    Isnt that term used when youve 'dropped' the bike when riding. Its what I get told... damn, I dropped the bike....

    Sure is. I can't imagine causing 4.5k worth of damage to a bike by just knocking it over unless it was a top end Ducati or something.

    More than likely dropped while driving.


  • #11
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    it is an unusual custom bike and he called a freind of his to have a look/ride, who crashed it coming back into the garrage ALL custom parts on one side broken/damaged. have witness who was at the garrage that day.


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  • #12
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Johndg wrote: »
    it is an unusual custom bike and he called a freind of his to have a look/ride, who crashed it coming back into the garrage ALL custom parts on one side broken/damaged. have witness who was at the garrage that day.

    What sort of bike is it


  • #13
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    There was an article in MS+L last month on the insane cost of repairing damage to dropped bikes, it's quite possible to write off a bike by dropping it depending on what gets damaged and what bike it is... They had an example of a cruiser with engine bars that had saved the engine but caused the bike to roll onto its topside, mashing the tank and controls.


  • #14
    KTRIC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    There was an article in MS+L last month on the insane cost of repairing damage to dropped bikes, it's quite possible to write off a bike by dropping it depending on what gets damaged and what bike it is... They had an example of a cruiser with engine bars that had saved the engine but caused the bike to roll onto its topside, mashing the tank and controls.


    Depending on what the engine bars are fitted to they can do more damage than good.


  • #15
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    it is (was) a custom Harley built in the USA. its intresting about the "write off" situation i have been advised to get the bike tested to see if any structural/frame damage has been done, any ideas who could/would do this type of test?


  • #16
    Tayto2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Tayto2000


    Offhand, maybe Dublin Harley Davidson at the Red Cow? An inspection from them should carry sufficient weight for whatever you need.

    At €4,500 (Does that include labour?) you'd be getting close to a write off for many bikes, but I'm assuming the value is at around the €10-€12 for a custom Harley....


  • #17
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Tayto2000 wrote: »
    Offhand, maybe Dublin Harley Davidson at the Red Cow? An inspection from them should carry sufficient weight for whatever you need.

    At €4,500 (Does that include labour?) you'd be getting close to a write off for many bikes, but I'm assuming the value is at around the €10-€12 for a custom Harley....

    10-12k for a Harley? That'll be an old one, then........

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  • #18
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    KtK wrote: »
    Most shops have to have a 'road' insurance policy, to test drive etc. But beware, many of these are third party only, which may be why you are left having to stump up, op.

    I challenge you to ask any shop for theirs, before handing over your pride and joy. The truth is, for the majority, trade insurance is actually impossible to get, at any price........

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #19
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I challenge you to ask any shop for theirs, before handing over your pride and joy. The truth is, for the majority, trade insurance is actually impossible to get, at any price........
    I am a shop.:) We have always had road cover and public liability. We got fully comp cover only in the last while, before that it was unavailable. We carried that risk, but thank god, it never was an issue. Bike shops are too teeny a segment of the market for insurers to bother bringing out a competitive product.

    Apologies if Im drifting off topic.


  • #20
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    How many bike shops would let "friends" ride their customer’s bikes and then try to walk away when they crash them? Again I say "check out your motorcycle garage" before you let them have your bike!!!


  • #21
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Allright, I give up; hints are needed! Is it a bike shop that's down a lane-way, or a bike-shop that's in an industrial estate?


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  • #22
    agent_smith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭agent_smith


    is this bray honda you are talking about ?! Only bike shop i know of in bray. If that is the case i would be genuinely surprised. The two lads operating that place always appeared bang on , straight up guys to deal with whenever i dealt with them.


  • #23
    Johndg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8 ✭Johndg


    It is not Bray Honda, did not even know there was a Honda dealer in Bray! As I said before i cannont name this shop, yet, as legals going on but it is not a dealer. My bike is a Harley and he works on them.


  • #24
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,550 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    The Bray Honda Centre is on Duncairn Lane, and deals mostly in Japanese imports. Duncairn Lane is just around the corner from Quinnsborough Road, where there's another bike shop that deals mostly in customs, called 0ld Sk00l Motorcycles.


  • #25
    cantdecide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Maybe some of you noticed a thread I posted recently where someone I know a) had a bike stolen (not the best kind of trend) and b) from an uninsured/ unregistered garage. He wanted the guy to replace the bike but the owner told him get lost 'I only do this as a hobby'.

    I think if I had a bike being fixed somewhere I'd think about ringing them up and asking are they a fully insured, registered etc...


  • #26
    Oryx
    Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    cantdecide wrote: »
    Maybe some of you noticed a thread I posted recently where someone I know a) had a bike stolen (not the best kind of trend) and b) from an uninsured/ unregistered garage. He wanted the guy to replace the bike but the owner told him get lost 'I only do this as a hobby'.

    I think if I had a bike being fixed somewhere I'd think about ringing them up and asking are they a fully insured, registered etc...
    From my experience, lots of people do. Not a problem. Id rather show myself as upfront than be tarred with the same brush as the dodgy operators.

    Shame on that shop, by the way. No such thing as honour anymore.


  • #27
    cantdecide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    KtK wrote: »
    No such thing as honour anymore

    QFT. It's just as bad with cars.


  • #28
    roadrunner41
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭roadrunner41


    Zascar wrote: »
    how in the world could they cause 4.5k worth of damage from dropping it?


    I've written off a Honda CBR600RR and it didnt cost that much to repair...

    Whats the bike in question?


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