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Rejuvenated Guinness Barges should be powered by electricity!

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  • #2
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    or maybe spend the €8 on something other than rust

    AFAIK only one of the Guinness barges didn't have a fatal accident. Most of those raised up from lake bottoms have needed serious work done on them. Would be far cheaper to buy them second hand. And safer too. Or build replicas for a fraction of the cost.


  • #3
    zippy 99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭zippy 99


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    or maybe spend the €8 on something other than rust

    AFAIK only one of the Guinness barges didn't have a fatal accident. Most of those raised up from lake bottoms have needed serious work done on them. Would be far cheaper to buy them second hand. And safer too. Or build replicas for a fraction of the cost.


    But that sense of history and authenticity is lost.


  • #4
    irishsurfer
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    Buy new barges from Holland - or build replicas with a rudder post or stay or something from the original hull - fairly common practice


  • #5
    sarahirl
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    have to agree with zippy here... it's far more of an attraction to have the originals. plus reduce, reuse, recycle ethic


  • #6
    probe
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    One has to ask the question why the old barges were scuttled at sea if in fact this was the case? And who was responsible? Guinness?

    Moving back to the thread's origins, if they do in fact recover usable barges from the sea, they will need a new engine system, and it might as well be electric.

    The residual (heavy) fuel oils used in boats is very polluting to be used in an urban area.

    .probe


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  • #7
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    They are spending €2m per 80 foot barge

    http://www.boatquest.com/Commercial/Barge/Category/Length/4610/Feet/USD/1/boats.aspx
    Year: 1965
    Make: Barge
    Length: 80 Feet
    Engine: Other
    Fuel: Other/None
    Hull: Steel
    Location: Wisconsin, USA
    Price: USD 26,000
    Status: Active

    as for reuse , all you are saving is some steel, everything else will have to built again, and you can buy other second hand barges without all the hassle of recovery.

    Why electric ?
    you could use cables to drag them along - much more efficient
    or compressed air

    but investing several million in wave energy or pumped storage would be a better usage of resources, what is the payback time on the €8m ??

    actually getting the free wifi scheme for Dublin would be far better value if you could convince people to telecommute instead of driving


  • #8
    probe
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    They are spending €2m per 80 foot barge

    http://www.boatquest.com/Commercial/Barge/Category/Length/4610/Feet/USD/1/boats.aspx

    as for reuse , all you are saving is some steel, everything else will have to built again, and you can buy other second hand barges without all the hassle of recovery.
    That is their choice. The historic association is a big factor. That would be missing from some third hand boat from the Rhine.
    Why electric ?
    you could use cables to drag them along - much more efficient
    or compressed air
    You could use cables to "drag them along" - but that would restrict the route and flexibility. The compressed air has to be tanked or piped in and needs energy to create - unless you have a big windmill powering a compressor on the riverside.
    but investing several million in wave energy or pumped storage would be a better usage of resources, what is the payback time on the €8m ??
    The investments are surely mutually exclusive? The barges are probably going to be put there anyway because they make commercial and touristic sense.

    People will invest in green energy production too. But the windmill investor is probably a different type of investor to the tourist barge investor.
    actually getting the free wifi scheme for Dublin would be far better value if you could convince people to telecommute instead of driving
    The EU has banned free WiFi in Dublin. Until such time as the EU racketeers are put out of business and replaced by a democratically run confederation of European states, free citywide wifi projects are a non runner in EU-Europe. Along with anything else that even hints that it might threaten .....

    .probe


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