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Ricky91t

Hello all
Just went onto my pix and found these shots decided id post them and see what you think(some were only cropped)
Tell me what you think and how i could improve them
Thanks in advance

City-Exile

Ideally, you'll get two players facing the camera, with a ball somewhere between them, like the 4th one above.
When you cropped that though, it would have helped to rotate it, so that the pitch is level.
For the 2nd & 3rd shots, the man with the ball isn't facing the camera, so they don't get printed.
The 1st one would have been fine, if you had both players in the shot.

Ricky91t

Thanks
yeah i agree but i was uing my 300D at the time which isnt the best
Got my 20D now much happier with it
I shall out them tips to pratice at the next match:D

Ricky91t

This is one of my flickr

Paulw

Yeah, some nice images but you really need to capture them head on. Not always an easy task though, and depends where you are seated. You should also try to have the pitch as level as possible.

Keep trying though.

Your FlickR one is good. I gather you were standing up. You can tend to get a better angle, when on ground level.

Ricky91t

Paulw wrote: »

Your FlickR one is good. I gather you were standing up. You can tend to get a better angle, when on ground level.

Yeah i was.I usully can get onto the picth at most matchs and when its finals etc iv been let onto the pitch when the man at the gate see's i have the camera.I might use my monopod this year to keep camera more level
Thanks for the help
And thanks for commenting

Edit:Iv bought a bettery grip anyway which will help as i shoot alot of the photos portrait

City-Exile

ricky91t wrote: »

This is one of my flickr

That's a much better image.
With regard to portrait, you should stick to landscape for open field play. It gives you better scope as players often enter the frame very quickly, if they're chasing the man with the ball.
I might use portrait, if there was two players jumping for a high ball, or if the action was getting too close for my 300mm.

kensutz

ricky91t wrote: »

Thanks
yeah i agree but i was uing my 300D at the time which isnt the best
Got my 20D now much happier with it
I shall out them tips to pratice at the next match:D

20D or 300D it doesn't matter about what camera you use to get the shot. Like in another thread you started, it's not about the camera, it's about the person using it and using it properly.

Paulw

kensutz wrote: »

20D or 300D it doesn't matter about what camera you use to get the shot.

So, why would a pro sports shooter use a 1D, when he could have a few 400Ds to capture the images?

Of course the camera matters.

Greater fps, better AF, better ISO all mean that you can capture more quality moments from a sports event.

City-Exile

kensutz wrote: »

20D or 300D it doesn't matter about what camera you use to get the shot. Like in another thread you started, it's not about the camera, it's about the person using it and using it properly.

That's not strictly true.
Higher fps & better low light capability, make for better action shots, in this country anyway.

kensutz

Damn, that's the 5D going higher up on my wanted list.

City-Exile

Two pictures taken yesterday, one with a 400D & one with 40D.
Can you tell the difference?

RoryW

City-Exile wrote: »

Two pictures taken yesterday, one with a 400D & one with 40D.
Can you tell the difference?

No !

Anyway best shot from your flickr for this match is here

kensutz

I can see what Paul & Peadar were concentrating on.

City-Exile

I've just noticed the Leinster lads have different jerseys on.

That girl in the picture was using the camera on her phone. Paul & I thought it was amusing.

King Kelly

Great shots City-Exile. Can you give an idea of shutter speed/ISO etc. I presume they were on your 300L 2.8?

City-Exile

King Kelly wrote: »

Great shots City-Exile. Can you give an idea of shutter speed/ISO etc. I presume they were on your 300L 2.8?

The first picture above was taken with a 70-200 f/2.8 on a 400D ISO 800 Exposure 1/800 & the second was taken with a 300 f/2.8 on a 40D ISO 640 Exposure 1/500

I was using a higher shutter speed on the 40D, but the light dropped & it was easier to slow down the shutter, than change the ISO, while I had the SportsShield on.

King Kelly

Thanks City-Exile.

Just wondering for similar shots during an average daylight game what settings you would use. Is a monopod any advantage or are those speeds high enough to negate any camera shake? The background blur really makes the focused players stand out. I presume thats the benefit of the f/2.8 lens?

Sorry for expecting a sports tutorial!

Ricky91t

kensutz wrote: »

20D or 300D it doesn't matter about what camera you use to get the shot. Like in another thread you started, it's not about the camera, it's about the person using it and using it properly.

Come on like.the 20D is in a totally differet league to the 300D.I et an extra 2fps 1 stop lower focussing and quicker af as a result of that.Using the 20D nearly all images are in focus etc the problem is ,where the players are facing etc.With the 300D it spent most the time hunting in av and tv and m mode which has no Continuis af switch it to sport mode and all the shots were over exposed.Some came out good though

King Kelly

ricky91t wrote: »

......Using the 20D nearly all images are in focus etc the problem is ,where the players are facing etc.:D

I think your missing Kensutz's point. Its the photographers ability to capture the subject facing the right way, in the right position, at the right time that's important - not your equipment. Unfortunately as a 20D user I know you can't buy that ability!

kensutz

Kelly hit the nail on the head

Ricky91t

King Kelly wrote: »

I think your missing Kensutz's point. Its the photographers ability to capture the subject facing the right way, in the right position, at the right time that's important - not your equipment. Unfortunately as a 20D user I know you can't buy that ability!

Yeah i was just saying that but my main point was is that the 20D is alot better than the 300D for sports because of its faster af and fps.I know im not an excellent photographer and i rather the 20D as it produce better photos than the 300D

City-Exile

King Kelly wrote: »

Thanks City-Exile.

Just wondering for similar shots during an average daylight game what settings you would use. Is a monopod any advantage or are those speeds high enough to negate any camera shake? The background blur really makes the focused players stand out. I presume thats the benefit of the f/2.8 lens?

Sorry for expecting a sports tutorial!

I'd use higher shutter speed & lower ISO in bright sunshine.

A monopod is vital, because the 300 f/2.8 is too heavy to hold it steady for an entire game. The 70-200 is light enough to hand hold.

The wide aperture helps to give a shallow depth of field & therefore blur the background, while keeping the players in focus.

Paulw

King Kelly wrote: »

I think your missing Kensutz's point. Its the photographers ability to capture the subject facing the right way, in the right position, at the right time that's important - not your equipment.

And as been highlighted before, if you don't have a camera that can respond quick enough, you'll never capture a sports moment. Timing is everything, and the extra fps will be the difference of the ball in shot and out of shot.

Kensutz's point isn't totally valid when talking about sport, hence the pros use 1D which get very high fps.

Ricky91t

Thanks for the replies people.Im pleased with what you've said.Planning on getting a new lense this year as my 90-300 is abit slow on AF and abit soft.Might get the 70-200 and a 1.4 tc.Iv read in reviews these are a good combination and produce sharp images.Was planning on strecthing to the f/2.8 but its too pricy For now ill have to stick to the 90-300