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Claim back prsi?

  • 09-01-2008 2:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭


    Hi all, hope you can help here.
    Im 19 and working part time. For me, anytime i get paid more then 330 a week i pay PRSI on it, which is fine since i only earn 250 a week. However on some weeks my employer will not pay me for one or more shifts by mistake and pay me for them the next week, meaning i may earn 200 one week and 400 the next (which i have to pay PRSI on!).

    Got my p60 today and saw i paid €180 for the year because of things like this. Can i claim this back?

    Hope someone can help, thanks.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    No- you can not claim back PRSI payments.
    If you are paying PAYE tax, it is entirely possible that you may be entitled to claim back overpaid tax. PRSI is a form of social insurance, not a tax per-se, and is non-refundable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Mrs. MacGyver


    There is a PRSI refunds section in the Dept of Social Welfare, the number should be in the phone book.

    See below:
    http://www.welfare.ie/foi/prsi_refunds.html

    They may be able to advise you on your particular situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    smccarrick wrote: »
    No- you can not claim back PRSI payments.
    If you are paying PAYE tax, it is entirely possible that you may be entitled to claim back overpaid tax. PRSI is a form of social insurance, not a tax per-se, and is non-refundable.


    I was of the understanding that a low earner can claim back PRSI. Anyone earning less than 26000 euro can apply for a refund. The form on which to apply is available from this website:
    http://www.welfare.ie/forms/prsiref1.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Athina wrote: »
    I was of the understanding that a low earner can claim back PRSI. Anyone earning less than 26000 euro can apply for a refund.

    Can this be done? I earn less than 26000 and have paid a fair bit of prsi.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    Print off the application form and fill in the relevant parts, you need to get your employer to stamp it and post it along with the first part of you P60 to the address shown on the form. PRSI is very complicated, however, few people on low earnings ever look into claiming it back and the government don't exactly publicise it either.

    http://www.welfare.ie/forms/prsiref1.pdf


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭zeusnero


    Athina wrote: »
    Print off the application form and fill in the relevant parts, you need to get your employer to stamp it and post it along with the first part of you P60 to the address shown on the form. PRSI is very complicated, however, few people on low earnings ever look into claiming it back and the government don't exactly publicise it either.

    http://www.welfare.ie/forms/prsiref1.pdf

    Hey Athina thanks for the advice - looks like it was a well kept secret on the part of the govt.

    Btw, have you ever applied and if so, were you reimbursed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Athina wrote: »
    Print off the application form and fill in the relevant parts, you need to get your employer to stamp it and post it along with the first part of you P60 to the address shown on the form. PRSI is very complicated, however, few people on low earnings ever look into claiming it back and the government don't exactly publicise it either.

    http://www.welfare.ie/forms/prsiref1.pdf

    What do I put in for my reason to look for a refund?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    zeusnero wrote: »
    Hey Athina thanks for the advice - looks like it was a well kept secret on the part of the govt.

    Btw, have you ever applied and if so, were you reimbursed?


    No I haven't applied but my son who is on low earnings approx 19,000 a year send away his application form two weeks back and is waiting to hear from them. I will report back when and if he receives a refund


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    Duffff-Man wrote: »
    What do I put in for my reason to look for a refund?

    hey, sorry I don't log in that often,on the application form state you are applying for a prsi refund for the year ended 31st December 2007 because your earnings were below the threshold for the year, and that you are enclosing your P60, sign and date the form and be sure to get your employer to fill in his/her section. Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Just to clarify the thresholds.

    For 2006 Weekly Income betwen €38-€300 is exempt from PRSI € 15,600 per annum

    For 2007 Weekly Income betwen €38-€339 is exempt from PRSI € 17,628 per annum

    Hope that helps.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    SetantaL wrote: »
    Just to clarify the thresholds.

    For 2006 Weekly Income betwen €38-€300 is exempt from PRSI € 15,600 per annum

    For 2007 Weekly Income betwen €38-€339 is exempt from PRSI € 17,628 per annum

    Hope that helps.


    This handy little calculator from the Department of Social and Family Affairs website will help people to work out their correct rate of PRSI

    http://www.welfare.ie/calculators/prsi_calc_08.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    Athina wrote: »
    I was of the understanding that a low earner can claim back PRSI. Anyone earning less than 26000 euro can apply for a refund. The form on which to apply is available from this website:
    http://www.welfare.ie/forms/prsiref1.pdf

    I thought it was only the health levy (i.e. 2%) you could claim back if your earnings were under €26k fo rthe year - not the full 6% (P.R.S.I plus the health levy)??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    I thought it was only the health levy (i.e. 2%) you could claim back if your earnings were under €26k fo rthe year - not the full 6% (P.R.S.I plus the health levy)??


    From the revenue website,

    PRSI & HEALTH CONTRIBUTIONS

    The following changes are effective from 1 January 2008:

    Employee’s Annual Earnings Ceiling

    The employee’s annual earnings ceiling (above which they pay no social insurance contributions) is being increased from €48,800 to €50,700.

    Employee income thresholds

    The threshold for employee PRSI is being increased from €339 a week to €352 a week.

    The threshold for payment of the 2% Health Contribution is being increased from €480 a week to €500 a week.

    The additional 0.5% Health Contribution on earnings exceeding €1,925 per week (equivalent to €3,850 per fortnight and to €8,342 per month) is unchanged.

    The annual earnings threshold for the Health Contribution is being increased from €24,960 to €26,000.

    Employee's PRSI-Free Allowance

    The PRSI-Free Allowance for employees in Classes A and H with weekly earnings of more than €352 remains at €127 per week and at €26 per week for all employees in Classes B, C and D.:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    hi all, hoping for some help.

    I was made redundant a couple of weeks ago, would i be able to claim back PRSI?

    I earned less than €800 a month. worked there for about a year and a half.

    Any advice would be great.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Athina


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    hi all, hoping for some help.

    I was made redundant a couple of weeks ago, would i be able to claim back PRSI?

    I earned less than €800 a month. worked there for about a year and a half.

    Any advice would be great.

    The issue of repayment of PRSI is very complicated. Contact the following department and have your PPS number to hand. They will most likely send you a form to fill in but expect to wait at least six months for a refund at this present time.
    Department of Social & Family Affairs

    PRSI Refunds

    Oisin House

    Pearse St.

    Dublin 2.

    Telephone (01) 6732586
    This Thread in the ask about money website explains it in more detail.

    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭fAzI


    Hi. you know how much you can earn in 2009 to get health leavy back ? in 2008 was 26k€ like i read in this thread. thanks


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is also worth noting that holders of full medical cards are exempt from both the income and the health levies even if their weekly gross pay is over €500. E.g. a medical card holder pays PRSI at class A2, not A1.

    From www.welfare.ie

    * Medical card holders, people aged 70 years and over, recipients of a Widow's or Widower's Pension from the Department of Social and Family Affairs, a One-Parent Family Payment, a Deserted Wife's Benefit/Allowance and recipients of a Widow's or Widower's Pension acquired under the social security legislation of a country covered by EC Regulations do not have to pay the Health Contribution - even if their pay is more than €500 a week.

    Even though it is the employer's responsibility to establish if employees fall into any of the above categories, many employers are not aware of their employees circumstances (and they tend not to ask). If you fall into any of the above categories, you should inform your employer as you may be paying PRSI in the wrong class.

    Refunds may be due - however, PRSI Refunds Section are now giving 8 months as the processing time for refunds due to the large number of new claims.


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