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Murdoch takes 15% stake in Germany's Premiere

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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    How long before Premiere becomes Sky Deutsch?

    I wonder if News Corp will try to get a controlling share of Premiere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,953 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I could have sworn Murdoch bought a holding in Premiere about 4 years ago ?
    Deja Vu perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    He did but he got burned when Kirchgruppe went belly up.

    More here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,352 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I thought Rupert retired?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Only from Sky and he left his spawn in his place. He's still Chairman and CEO for News Corp.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭Tomas_V


    Pal wrote: »
    Its global domination I tell you.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/07/business/premiere.php

    how long before Sky show Bundesliga ?
    Not long, I don't think Premiere is doing so well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    I think nobody pays for Premiere any more. Its widely compromised.


  • Subscribers Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    Pal wrote: »
    I think nobody pays for Premiere any more. Its widely compromised.

    Mark my works the reason for the 15% sale is to get access to the NDS encryption over the coming year. Currently they are using nagra2 which is wide open, they couild move nagra3 but its only a matter of time before that is cracked. So that leaves NDS as the option for keeping people out and to have NDS you need to be in the cosy cartel of uncle ruppert


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    TCP/IP wrote: »
    Mark my works the reason for the 15% sale is to get access to the NDS encryption over the coming year. Currently they are using nagra2 which is wide open, they couild move nagra3 but its only a matter of time before that is cracked. So that leaves NDS as the option for keeping people out and to have NDS you need to be in the cosy cartel of uncle ruppert
    It wouldn't surprise me at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The Germans (wisely ) appear to boycott pay TV. In Poland and Slovakia they appear to simply steal it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Eurorunner


    watty wrote:
    The Germans (wisely ) appear to boycott pay TV.
    they're dead right. The reduced tv money means that the bundesliga runs on a more realistic financial level - unlike the situation in England.


  • Subscribers Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    watty wrote: »
    The Germans (wisely ) appear to boycott pay TV. In Poland and Slovakia they appear to simply steal it.

    The Irish are like the Poles as well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Murdoch’s ‘battering ram’

    Rupert Murdoch made his name dominating global entertainment and media by paying big for what he calls the battering ram — exclusive rights to air sports programming in the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom and Asia.

    He’s now executing from the same playbook in Germany, Europe’s biggest television market, whose viewers are quite happy not paying for television unless it’s soccer.

    Confirming a report in Der Spiegel, a source close the company tells us Murdoch’s News Corp aims to buy up to 23 percent of Germany’s biggest pay television provider Premiere AG to control a majority at the June 12 Premiere annual meeting. He previously held a 19.9 percent interest as of February and had stoked buyout speculation in January after an initial purchase of more than 14 percent in January.

    The reason? Premiere stands a chance to land the rights to air Germany’s Bundesliga soccer games, up for auction this year. Murdoch’s deep pockets will come in handy to trounce rival bidders, experts say.

    So critical are the rights to air the games to Premiere, the company scrapped its 2008 financial outlook after the auction, originally scheduled for late 2007, was delayed until early 2008.
    http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/03/31/murdochs-battering-ram/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭mayto


    what competition do Premiere have the Bundesliga, they lost the rights last season or was it even this season. But the other tv company went bankrupt or something like that and Premiere got the rights back in no time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    Premiere Chooses NDS VideoGuard(R) to Secure Its Pay-TV Platforms in Germany and Austria
    Tuesday April 15, 1:30 am ET

    During the coming months Premiere and NDS will be working closely to smoothly migrate the operator’s satellite platforms and set-top box (STB) population to VideoGuard, the world’s leading conditional access (CA) system which now protects over 82.7 million active devices worldwide. As part of this process, smart cards currently deployed will be replaced and VideoGuard software will be downloaded to existing STBs. New STBs will be equipped with VideoGuard. Premiere will deploy NDS’ leading edge security technology to its subscribers seamlessly, with no interruption to reception of programming.

    In order to facilitate this migration process, Premiere plans to use Simulcrypt technology in collaboration with its incumbent CA provider.

    Having already selected NDS’ MediaHighway® middleware in 2006 to enhance its pay-TV business, Premiere will now benefit from the advantages of an end-to-end technology infrastructure from NDS, enabling the operator to securely deliver pay-TV content as well as value-added, innovative services to its subscribers. NDS middleware has been deployed in over 76.4 million devices worldwide. Following major recent deployments of VideoGuard in Germany, this new announcement represents the fourth agreement for NDS’ content protection solutions in Germany.

    Hans Seger, Chief Program and Technology Officer of Premiere, said: “We decided to select NDS VideoGuard because of its unsurpassed track record in securing digital Pay-TV platforms around the world. A robust security technology is absolutely a pre-requisite in order to achieve sustainable high growth for our pay-TV operations,” he said. “We look forward to benefitting from a fully secured platform and to developing new value added services for our subscribers based on our end-to-end digital TV solution from NDS. In line with previous announcements we will be starting the swap-out in the second quarter,” he continued.

    Mr Seger added: “A secure encryption system is the most important pre-condition for the pay TV business model to be successful. We decided to select NDS VideoGuard as it is regarded as the safest conditional access system in the world.”

    Yves Padrines, Managing Director NDS GmbH and NDS Director, Business Development, said: “We are more than proud to expand our existing technology partnership with Premiere by now also providing VideoGuard content protection. Being the largest pay TV operator in Germany and Austria, Premiere’s decision to choose VideoGuard is the ultimate endorsement for the leadership of NDS security technology. We are looking forward to actively supporting Premiere by protecting their premium content and enabling new engaging services for customers.”
    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080415/20080414006227.html?.v=1


    Another one succumbs to NDS. The flipside of this is that Videoguard will now become a much more significant target for the hackers. Meanwhile...
    Rupert Murdoch Firm Goes on Trial for Alleged Tech Sabotage
    By Kim Zetter 04.21.08 | 12:00 AM

    Did a Rupert Murdoch company go too far and hire hackers to sabotage rivals and gain the top spot in the global pay-TV war?

    This is the question a jury will be facing in a spectacular five-year-old civil lawsuit that is finally being tried this month in California but which has, oddly, received little notice from U.S. media.

    The case involves a colorful cast of characters that includes former intelligence agents, Canadian TV pirates, Bulgarian and German hackers, stolen e-mails and the mysterious suicide of a Berlin hacker who had been courted by the Murdoch company not long before his death.

    On the hot spot is NDS Group, a UK-Israeli firm that makes smartcards for pay-TV systems like DirecTV. The company is a majority-owned subsidiary of Murdoch's News Corporation. The charges stem from 1997 when NDS is accused of cracking the encryption of rival NagraStar, which makes access cards and systems for EchoStar's Dish Network and other pay-TV services. Further, it’s alleged NDS then hired hackers to manufacture and distribute counterfeit NagraStar cards to pirates to steal Dish Network's programming for free.

    NagraStar and one of its parent companies, EchoStar, are seeking about $101 million for damages for piracy, copyright infringement, misconduct and unfair competition. The list of witnesses in the case includes EchoStar's founder and CEO Charlie Ergen; several hackers and pirates; and Reuven Hazak, an Israeli who heads security for NDS and is a former deputy head of Shabak, or Shin Bet, Israel's domestic security agency (the equivalent of Britain's MI5).

    The case, which began April 9 in the U.S. District Court's Central Division in Santa Ana, California, could conceivably result in an award of hundreds of millions of dollars, although neither side is expected to emerge unscathed from testimony that threatens to expose the messy underbelly of the high-stakes pay-TV industry.

    As if to emphasize this point, U.S. District Judge David O. Carter said after the proceedings began that he was concerned that the case would hinge on testimony from known lawbreakers like hackers and pirates, who have been employed by the companies on both sides of the lawsuit. The judge urged the plaintiffs and defendant to settle rather than face potentially devastating harm to their reputations.

    EchoStar wouldn't comment on the case while it's ongoing, but Jim Davis, a senior analyst with the 451 Group, a market research firm, said the company isn't likely to settle.

    "It gets taken very personal when your security product has been hacked," he said. "And to have a competitor do that through, allegedly, the services of a known hacker, has got to be particularly galling to NagraStar."

    As for NDS, which currently has more than 75 million access cards on the market, Davis says the company probably sees the trial as an opportunity to defend against the image that it is "simultaneously promoting a product that secures networks while working with folks that work outside the law [to break networks]."

    The company said in a statement to Wired.com: "We are confident our position will be upheld at a trial."

    According to court documents, the scheme began to unravel in 2000 when law-enforcement agents in Texas seized suspicious packages containing CD and DVD players stuffed with more than $40,000 in cash. Parcels similar to this were being sent almost daily from Canada, via Texas, to a hacker in California named Christopher Tarnovsky, who was working for NDS as an engineer. The money was allegedly part of the conspiracy between Tarnovsky and NDS Group to sabotage NagraStar's cards.

    As laid out in the allegations, NDS' hacking is said to have begun in 1997 after its own access cards were cracked and it was at risk of losing clients like DirecTV, which was being hit hard from pirates who were selling unfettered access to its system.

    But rather than deal with its security breach, NDS hired Tarnovsky and other pirates who had compromised its system to help the company hack and pirate its competitors' cards and even out the playing field, it is alleged.

    In addition to Tarnovsky, the company also hired Oliver Kommerling, a hacker known for writing the primer on cracking smartcards. Kommerling has acknowledged in an affidavit that he helped NDS set up a research lab in Haifa, Israel, where NagraStar's smartcard was allegedly cracked by NDS engineers.

    NDS didn't hire only hackers, however. According to EchoStar/NagraStar, it also hired a handful of other people with colorful pasts who they say had a role in hacking and pirating EchoStar/NagraStar. There was Reuven Hazak, who had been deputy head of Israel's Shin Bet during the notorious Bus 300 incident (when two Palestinian terrorists who hijacked an Israeli bus were killed in custody by a Shin Bet agent. Hazak eventually blew the whistle on the subsequent cover-up).

    NDS also hired a former U.S. Navy intelligence officer named John Norris and a former Scotland Yard commander named Ray Adams. Finally, it hired a former would-be terrorist, Yossi Tsuria, who became chief technical officer of its lab in Israel. Tsuria was part of a radical group of Jewish Israelis in the 1980s that plotted to bomb the Dome of the Rock -- a shrine that sits on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, a holy site for both Jews and Muslims.

    NDS has maintained in public statements that Hazak, Norris and its other security officers were hired to help it track down hackers and pirates and get them arrested. But EchoStar and NagraStar allege that Hazak and Norris played central roles in committing hacking and piracy as well.

    In late 1997, NDS researchers in Israel reportedly cracked the NagraStar card after about six months of effort, using an electron microscope.

    NagraStar became aware its card was hacked in late 1998 when meeting with DirecTV to discuss the pay-TV company's desire to switch from the hacked NDS cards to NagraStar's cards. But DirecTV employees surprised NagraStar at the meeting when they informed NagraStar that its cards had also been hacked.

    EchoStar/NagraStar claim that NDS, aware that DirecTV was about to abandon its cards in favor of NagraStar cards, cracked NagraStar's card to discourage DirecTV from making the switch.

    After NDS cracked its rival's card, Tarnovsky and his associates allegedly created and sold counterfeit NagraStar cards through a piracy site based in Canada, among others, that allowed pirates to access Dish Network programs for free. Tarnovsky is also accused of later posting on the Canadian site the code, secret keys and instructions for hacking the microprocessor on EchoStar's access cards, allowing pirates to flood the market with even more cards. He has denied the allegations. Hazak and Norris are accused of providing Tarnovsky with the code so he could post it online, but NDS maintains this didn't happen.

    According to court documents, the sabotage scheme worked remarkably well throughout 1998 and 1999 as counterfeit NagraStar cards flooded the market.

    It was around this time, however, that a German hacker in Berlin known as Boris Floricic, aka Tron, disappeared while walking home from his parents' home one day. He was found several days later hanging from a belt in a park.

    Among his possessions, authorities found correspondence from NDS. NDS later said it had offered Boris a job, which he had rejected. Prior to his death, Boris had obtained source code and information about hacking access cards that were being used in a German satellite TV system. His friends in the German hacker group, Chaos Computer Club, were convinced that he'd met with foul play.

    Although his death was officially ruled a suicide, there were enough details around it to create suspicion. Floricic's feet were on the ground when he was found hanging, for example, and other evidence suggested that his body might have been placed in the park after he died.

    During this time, NagraStar wasn't the only alleged victim of NDS hacking and piracy. In 2002, the French pay-TV service Canal Plus filed a damages suit against NDS, from which the EchoStar/NagraStar case emerged. In an affidavit from that case, Kommerling disclosed that NDS had cracked the Canal Plus cards using a method he had taught its engineers in Israel. Then, he revealed, the company instructed Tarnovsky to post the Canal Plus code on the internet.

    The Canal Plus suit fizzled after its parent company, Vivendi Universal, struck a business deal with News Corporation that included a condition that Canal Plus would drop its suit against NDS. This is when EchoStar joined the litigation.

    Before Canal Plus's case against NDS died, Tarnovsky indicated to the company that Reuven Hazak had given him the Canal Plus code to post it on the internet. He reportedly told the French firm he would testify in the case, but later backed out, citing fear for his life and his family.

    In May 2002, two months after Canal Plus filed its suit, someone broke into the car of one of its U.K. employees and stole the hard drive from his laptop, making off with thousands of NDS documents and e-mails. EchoStar/NagraStar say the e-mails provide proof of NDS' hacking and piracy activities. NDS has suggested that the e-mails might be fabricated and has battled to keep them out of the court proceedings.

    NDS has denied the lawsuit allegations. The company maintains that it was simply engaging in reverse-engineering, as any company would do to understand rivals and compete in the marketplace, but that it did not distribute cards or information about hacking NagraStar's encryption to pirates.

    In an e-mail statement to Wired.com, the company took a dig at its competitor's competence and touted its superior skills.

    "The hacking of EchoStar was the result of inferior technology arising from inadequate investment in research and development by [NagraStar]," said the statement. "NDS, on the other hand, invests heavily in research and development ... we reinvested over 30 percent of our revenues into R&D -- and the result is that we have zero piracy and the platforms of our customers are completely secure*."

    The trial is expected to last at least two more weeks.
    http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/04/murdoch

    *Just don't mention the war. Or cardsharing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭Zaphod


    If the rumours are to be believed.

    In the meantime, interesting article in Wired.
    From the Eye of a Legal Storm, Murdoch's Satellite-TV Hacker Tells All


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Or tells very little actually :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    still on Nagra.
    no change yet to NDS for Premiere.
    they probably have to go all around Germany and give everybody digiboxes or whatever.
    that will take forever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Danimalito


    As far as I know, they're not sending out replacement STBs.

    Existing Premiere STBs will get a firmware update OTA, in which case one'll need to send in their Nagra2 card for a replacement Videoguard card.

    Owners of Premiere STBs that aren't NDS compatible, will get a Nagra3 card posted to their house during the next few months.

    Not sure what will happen with subscribers that dont have an official premiere receiver.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Will that mean PL is not on Premier this season?


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  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    I'm pretty sure that Premiere will be covering PL again next season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭Frisian


    According to their website they will:
    Premiere überträgt die Premier League auch in der kommenden Saison live!


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