help with caliber

enda50

hey i find different calibers to be kinda confusing, till now i thought that a .22 was .22 of an inch and the same with .45, but if so how is it harder to get a 9mm pistol and easier to get .45 if its really bigger! ie 11.6 mm

Maybe im completely wrong

please can u shed some light on this?

thanks

It wasn't me!

Image as far as a Superintendent is concerned is a big part of it. 9mm are used by the ERU, which is a familiar and near enough thing for them to relate to, and this is a weapon as far as they're concerned, so it's bad. They don't know so many people with .45's or .40s&w's, so they're not so bad.

rrpc

9 is also a bigger number than .4 or .45.

I'm being serious, I've heard of this being said.

fishdog

It wasn't me!:

9mm are used by the ERU, which is a familiar and near enough thing for them to relate to, and this is a weapon as far as they're concerned

Yes, you are 100% correct. They "know" this calibre and "know it is only for weapons". They seem to believe it must be much more poweful than any other.

rrpc:

9 is also a bigger number than .4 or .45.

I'm being serious, I've heard of this being said.

From some of the things I have heard them say, I would believe this.

enda50

dose any one know the difference in the feel and use of the pistols when they are different calibers. ie .22 .45 and 9 mm

sidneyreilly

enda50 wrote: »

dose any one know the difference in the feel and use of the pistols when they are different calibers. ie .22 .45 and 9 mm

Totally different! This is simplistic but: .22=5.56mm, 9mm= .354. 11.4mm. Very different sizes of projectile then i gets trickier: the case size and thus the powder quantities involved and the bullet weight. So you have various .22's and 9mm's etc.. these will all feel different. Then the pistols, depending on weight, lenght and ergonomics pistols of the exact same caliber can behave and feel very different. i.e. a Glock 9mm will recoil more then a Sig X5 9mm due to being lighter.

Now to really confuse things: .38 (of an inch)as in .38 S&W & .38 Special etc. is in fact .357 (of an inch) and .32(of an inch) as .32 acp is in fact .30 (of an inch):D

José Alaninho

enda50 wrote: »

dose any one know the difference in the feel and use of the pistols when they are different calibers. ie .22 .45 and 9 mm

Woah. Total beginner here. Okay, the most obvious difference felt when shooting different calibers is recoil. .22 has almost none, 9mm will knock your arm up a good bit, and a .45 will damn near take your arm off your shoulder (from personal experience ).

Aside from that, there a hundred other differences. The size of the rounds, the weight and therefore comparative size of the firearm, accuracy, and of course, the fact that 9mm strikes utter fear into a Garda's heart whereas, strangely, the other, more powerful rounds do not.

José Alaninho

rrpc wrote: »

9 is also a bigger number than .4 or .45.

I'm being serious, I've heard of this being said.

It'd be funny if their ignorance wasn't so frightening.

Hezz700

Hi Guys,

Just remember that most people outside the shooting community know very little about caliber differences, its not just Garda members.

But due to it's legendary cult status perpetuated by rap artists, movies and sensational journalism the trusty old 9mm has been singled out to be loved and reviled in equal measure.

lay your blame with the law makers not the local garda members. We know and understand this subject out of interest, they will only know it through training.!!!!

Hezz

enda50

but of course you have to admit that it is annoying that the people who say if we can follow this pass time may not have any intrest in it them selves

have you ever tryed to explain to some one who has no intrest in guns why you are intrested in them!

i find it quite hard

newby.204

Try explaining soccer to me and ill stop you at the first word so i can see why it would be hard!!, however i dont find myself bitching and moaning if people want to go play soccer let them off its their sport, wish people would leave us to ours!!!

José Alaninho

newby.204 wrote: »

Try explaining soccer to me and ill stop you at the first word so i can see why it would be hard!!, however i dont find myself bitching and moaning if people want to go play soccer let them off its their sport, wish people would leave us to ours!!!

Here here! :cool:

Hezz700

newby.204 wrote: »

Try explaining soccer to me and ill stop you at the first word so i can see why it would be hard!!, however i dont find myself bitching and moaning if people want to go play soccer let them off its their sport, wish people would leave us to ours!!!

My point exactly, well said Newby:)

newby.204

It drives me up the wall!! We are sportsmen with several respective disciplines!! We are no more dangerous than someone who enjoys lets say Kung-Fu or Boxing, Fencing or GAA etc!!They like their sport, we like ours some people like to save trees somelike to restore cars each to his own!!
Why cant people have a reasonable debate with us instead of being so entrenched in ignorance and nothing but contempt for our interests!!

José Alaninho

newby.204 wrote: »

It drives me up the wall!! We are sportsmen with several respective disciplines!! We are no more dangerous than someone who enjoys lets say Kung-Fu or Boxing, Fencing or GAA etc!!They like their sport, we like ours some people like to save trees somelike to restore cars each to his own!!
Why cant people have a reasonable debate with us instead of being so entrenched in ignorance and nothing but contempt for our interests!!

We're getting off topic here, but what we all saw in the now-locked 'attitude to guns' thread is proof of the pudding.