Corner Engage Device (CED)

NakedDex

I've seen a few real steel versions of these in action and they're amazingly useful to have on standby. Basically they're a snap on attachment for a scope/dotsight that provides (when needed) a mirror that can be repositioned up to 90degrees to view and/or aim around a corner without breaking cover. You simply push a button to use it, push it again to return the scope/dotsight to regular duties.

I found that Proud do a version of it lately and was about to get it when a thought struck me. How do you explain that you're using it to someone who's rather miffed at being hit by someone they think is blind firing? In other words, would this item be legitimately useful on an airsoft field since, to all around you, you look like you're blind firing, but you are in fact aiming through a scope or dotsight?

Masada

im building something very similar at the moment., my thoughts exactly on the blind fireing thing too.,

Arcto

Id say leave it off for airsoft.
Usefull device but the amount of hassle it would cause.. :rolleyes:

Was watching future weapons the other night and they had this weird mount for a G17 that made it rifle length and had a small LCD screen. It cracks in the middle and almost goes 90 Degres. Anyone see this?

Cheeky monkey

Thats pretty much a more advanced version of what they are on about but I thought it could fit on just about any gun

Ample Free ...?

Arcto wrote: »

Was watching future weapons the other night and they had this weird mount for a G17 that made it rifle length and had a small LCD screen. It cracks in the middle and almost goes 90 Degres. Anyone see this?

Assuming I'm thinking of the right thing, I think its called the cornershot. A pair of officers in the Israeli army designed it for anti-terrorism/hostage rescue.

Cheeky monkey

Corner shot with m203 *drool*

ED E

Cheeky monkey wrote: »

Corner shot with m203 *drool*

Wouldnt want to come up against that.

NakedDex

I could actually make that M203 one with stuff I have under my bed. Well, I'd need an M203 but the screen, the camera, trigger mech, stock etc I'd have enough parts to make one.

So the general consensus is you'd be pee'd off if you were hit by a CED. Cancelling order so.

Edit.
Come to looking at it, I could make that one for the pistol too. It'd just need a different clamp and a motor.

Masada

Cheeky monkey wrote: »

Corner shot with m203 *drool*

thats exactly what im making., its an israeli made device that was designed by a former special forces commando. it can take pretty much any pistol.,
Im hoping to use a PDA for my screen and install video CCTV software on it so that when i point it at something thats moving a blip on the screen follows the person or whatever it is thats moving. coupled with an infared camera the gun will be able to see things i cant.,

this was an early version.

Lemming

Whilst I can see how real-life military and law-enforcement special units might want something like this, tbh, it strikes me as an incredibly boring tool for airsoft which I thought was more about having a bit of fun.

Consider:

"I got 20 hits today. It was great. How many did you get? Only 5? I didn't get hit once!! I hid around a corner and just poked a CED around it all day".

Does that strike you as being particularly fun or challenging? Why bother?

NakedDex

Well the CED I was talking about was little more than a scope attachment. It's not something you could comfortably use for more than a few seconds. I was thinking of getting specifically for use in viewing around corners, possibly taking a shot or two if the target was about to bear down on me. My thoughts on it's use were as a cqb surveillance device more than as a firing advantage.

This is the variation I was speaking of
http://www.airsoftsupplier.co.uk/Products-Corner-Engagement-Device-id105.aspx

Giggsy75

Corner shot with m203 ........ Isn't this being used in Angelina Jolie's new movie "Wanted"

Lemming

NakedDex wrote: »

Well the CED I was talking about was little more than a scope attachment. It's not something you could comfortably use for more than a few seconds. I was thinking of getting specifically for use in viewing around corners, possibly taking a shot or two if the target was about to bear down on me. My thoughts on it's use were as a cqb surveillance device more than as a firing advantage.

If someone is, as you describe, bearing down on you then you're talking about engaging at point-blank range. Which probably wont win you many friends. Not to mention probably giving the site-owner and marshals a head-ache from whomever was on the receiving end bringing up the issue.

NakedDex

Hence why I'm asking, I don't mean bearing down within 3 yards. I mean before you turn an uncharted corner, looking around to see positions of those around the corner and finding someone already firing on you. I'm not talking about blind firing, I'm talking about using it as a surveillance piece.

But the point is moot now, I asked as I wanted the players thoughts on coming against such a device. Those that answered, answered against it. And all on fair points. I wouldn't have asked if I didn't have the same concerns. Playing fair is why the sport lives and I have no intention of jeopordising fair play on a technicality.

Masada

night games dont have bang kills so point blank is fine, thats why dave is strict on the full face thing for the upcomming night game on the 2nd of Feb.

Spitfire666

I'd find it very boring too in most airsofting but in the likes of a big cab site like the I'm have it could be useful where time and kills effect the teams final score. If it where to be used in game though I feel new rules such as death if the gun is hit be enforced more strictly

Masada

maybe the blind firing rule could be amended to include a rule saying that you cant fire at someone unless they have equal opertunity to fire at you. basically meaning no firing out of small gaps, between palats etc where it is both very difficult to get hit and also very difficult for others like marshalls to see if you got hit. I know in my first week there i took up a few different postions that i was told wernt aloud becasue its deemed blind firing but i have been shot from these same locations on other weeks.,

Spitfire666

tblind firing is nothing to do with shooting through gaps, its shooting what u can't see.

Masada

Yeah i know what you mean but have been told that shooting through the gap in the portacabin is classed as blind firing (understandably i suppose) but the problem is that there was plenty of other parts just like that gap that there is no objection to. not to mention that the ghosts to contractors end have the advantage of windows when they take the cabin whereas the if your comming from the contractors end the cabin is pretty much useless as you can only fire from the corner of one end and the door on the other, both of which are surounded by plenty of cover on the ghosts side.,

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