Garda Development

eroo

Right,I have just seen on the news that 2 new Garda stations are being planned for Limerick..in Moyross and Southill.Now I live a stones throw away from Moyross so I feel this will affect me.Mayorstone station will most likely have to be closed,which would make way for a full time station in Moyross.Now Mayorstone is a sub-station of Henry St. and it closes at 6pm AFAIK..so a full time station is absolutely necessary,I applaud these new developments...however they are just plans so far,not definitely going ahead..

Basically,I do not think the Regeneration Plan is as good as it could be regarding policing..there I said it.
YES,they are asking for more Gardai and getting them..
YES,CAB has an office down here now
YES,Moyross and Southill will probably get their own stations
YES,Limerick is getting more Community Gardai

BUT

Limerick needs its own dedicated Garda Helicopter;
'' needs a bigger armed response unit;
'' needs ALL of its stations to be full time and not overcrowded;
'' needs more Gardai;
These are things,IMO,that are necessary for the Regeneration scheme to work.The scheme is long overdue and I am confident that it will work...but only if the above is addressed!

Well thats my rant over...you know my opinions...what are yours?This need not solely concern Limerick City...what are the problems you would like to see addressed regarding policing in your areas.i.e.full time stations,more traffic units etc

Sierra Oscar

Limerick needs a new station in the Castletroy area - it is quite bad that Henry Street have to cover right out to Castleconnell, and no one need bother say that Castleconnell is a crime free area...it is far FAR from it. The Casletroy area has seen a huge surge in population, and will continue to experience this by the looks of it. Mayorstone is only a few years old. Who the hell is planning for the future in Limerick?

An can I have a link to the news? EDIT: Found one.

The last I heard was they were still looking for land within a 1/4 mile radius of the city for a new HQ to replace Henry Street, although this seems to be a separate story.

mmassive

Just to let you know...as far as I'm aware, that Roxboro Garda Station was in charge of patrolling and responding to criminal activity in the Castletroy area, not Henry St. It has been a major topic of debate with the local community in Castletroy over the past few years with the rapid expansion of the area. Unfortunately, I have heard that there has been no provision made for a Garda station being placed there in the near future. I remember a few years ago, there were rumours of a station being placed in the vacant land next to the Kilmurry Lodge and across the road from Chawkes....I wonder how far the crime rate would go down if you knew you were living next to a Garda Station (assuming you know who lives beside The Lodge! )

Sierra Oscar

mmassive wrote: »

Just to let you know...as far as I'm aware, that Roxboro Garda Station was in charge of patrolling and responding to criminal activity in the Castletroy area, not Henry St. It has been a major topic of debate with the local community in Castletroy over the past few years with the rapid expansion of the area. Unfortunately, I have heard that there has been no provision made for a Garda station being placed there in the near future. I remember a few years ago, there were rumours of a station being placed in the vacant land next to the Kilmurry Lodge and across the road from Chawkes....I wonder how far the crime rate would go down if you knew you were living next to a Garda Station (assuming you know who lives beside The Lodge! )

I am nearly 100% sure Henry Street cover Castletroy, I have had a house broken into twice in Castletroy and both times Henry Street responded for example.

Such articles such as this one also refer to the area as been covered by Henry Street.

The Garda site should really list all the station districts to be honest now that I think of it...the site is not too great at the moment.

ex_infantry man

eroo wrote: »

BUT

Limerick needs its own dedicated Garda Helicopter;
'' needs a bigger armed response unit;
'' needs ALL of its stations to be full time and not overcrowded;
'' needs more Gardai;
These are things,IMO,that are necessary for the Regeneration scheme to work.The scheme is long overdue and I am confident that it will work...but only if the above is addressed!

Well thats my rant over...you know my opinions...what are yours?This need not solely concern Limerick City...what are the problems you would like to see addressed regarding policing in your areas.i.e.full time stations,more traffic units etc

we could all say the same thing shur they,ve been looking for a sub station for years here in waterford for ballybeg and afaik i think its only been approved in 2007 as for gettin there own helicoptor i don,t think so! if they were to place a helicoptor in say shannon it would more than likely have to cover the whole of the midwest and south and not just limeick city, if needs be with regards to enlarging the armed response unit the aid to the civil power could come in to affect and the army could be drafted in from sarsfield barracks to aid the gardai

eroo

But why bring the army in to do something they should NEVER have to do...it is ridiculous!Give the Gardai what they need rather than bringing in DF..

Also,the helicopter probably would have to cover other areas than Limerick but it would cope easily..I mean at the moment the Heli's in Baldonnel have to cover the capital of the State and the ENTIRE country!!So if anything having a permanent heli down here would alleviate the situ..And those of you living in Limerick will agree with me that when the Helicopter does come down,it makes a big difference.Also,local Gardai I have spoken to said it is a great help...after all Limerick isn't exactly a massive city..

ex_infantry man

eroo wrote: »

But why bring the army in to do something they should NEVER have to do...it is ridiculous!Give the Gardai what they need rather than bringing in DF..

Also,the helicopter probably would have to cover other areas than Limerick but it would cope easily..I mean at the moment the Heli's in Baldonnel have to cover the capital of the State and the ENTIRE country!!So if anything having a permanent heli down here would alleviate the situ..And those of you living in Limerick will agree with me that when the Helicopter does come down,it makes a big difference.Also,local Gardai I have spoken to said it is a great help...after all Limerick isn't exactly a massive city..

i see your point with the df but they are there to be used if the gardai need em! for instants when i was in the army we were put on stand by a month before the orange parade in dublin two years ago and the excuse the gardai gave about them not being prepared for it was lies since the army were being geared up and trained for it a month before it happened

eroo

I understand the need for the DF to be able to help Gardai,but they shouldn't have to for day-to-day policing,regardless or not if it involves gun crime.You don't see the BA patrolling the streets of London or Manchester

ex_infantry man

eroo wrote: »

I understand the need for the DF to be able to help Gardai,but they shouldn't have to for day-to-day policing,regardless or not if it involves gun crime.You don't see the BA patrolling the streets of London or Manchester

valid point! well you do if there is a need for it i.e. terrorist threats!! but if the government were to do everything that you said in this thread they would be pumping major resources into just one city when they should be doing the same throughout the country and tackling the cocaine dealers and people like that

TheNog

The gardai took receipt of a second heli before christmas and as far as i know they have been bugging it out for a couple of months before it is deployed to the south of the country. I think it was about late October or early November when I was at the ASU but they said that people were sent over to the UK to get the second heli

ME and my family were able to visit the ASU in Baldonnel there before Christmas. It was brilliant. They showed us the heli, their base at Baldonnel and we met with the air crew that were working that night. We also got to see some of the footage they have mostly pursuits. It was just like you see in road wars from the uk. My son also got a shoulder patch of the ASU. TBH I was a bit jealous not getting one too.

Steyr

TheNog wrote: »

The gardai took receipt of a second heli before christmas and as far as i know they have been bugging it out for a couple of months before it is deployed to the south of the country. I think it was about late October or early November when I was at the ASU but they said that people were sent over to the UK to get the second heli

They went to McAlpine in the UK AFAIK, She had been sitting in the UK for quite some time about a year or more. I too have the Shoulder Patch and way more as my father Organises the SalthillAirshow!

That is correct, the GASU now Operate the following:
Reg. 254, Defender (Garda AS1).
Reg. 255, AS355N Squirrel (Garda AS2).
Reg. 256, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS3).
Reg. 272, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS4).

ex_infantry man

Steyr wrote: »

That is correct, the GASU now Operate the following:
Reg. 254, Defender (Garda AS1).
Reg. 255, AS355N Squirrel (Garda AS2).
Reg. 256, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS3).
Reg. 272, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS4).

are these all heli,s or a mixture of airplanes and heli,s

TheNog

Steyr wrote: »

They went to McAlpine in the UK AFAIK, She had been sitting in the UK for quite some time about a year or more. I too have the Shoulder Patch and way more as my father Organises the SalthillAirshow!

That is correct, the GASU now Operate the following:
Reg. 254, Defender (Garda AS1).
Reg. 255, AS355N Squirrel (Garda AS2).
Reg. 256, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS3).
Reg. 272, EC 135 T2 (Garda AS4).

AS1 - plane
AS2 - heli. i thought was de-commissioned??
AS3 - heli
AS4 - Heli

Steyr

No Sir she will be kept to keep her "ticking over", 255 will fly occasionally just to keep the cob webs off. It will possibly take part in a GASU formation flight prior to saying a final goodbye.

Steyr

ex_infantry man wrote: »

are these all heli,s or a mixture of airplanes and heli,s

They are all Helicopters except for "254", Garda AS1, she is a Britten Norman BN-2T-4S Defender 4000





AS= Air Support

PeelerHurley

eroo wrote: »

Right,I have just seen on the news that 2 new Garda stations are being planned for Limerick..in Moyross and Southill.Now I live a stones throw away from Moyross so I feel this will affect me.Mayorstone station will most likely have to be closed,which would make way for a full time station in Moyross.Now Mayorstone is a sub-station of Henry St. and it closes at 6pm AFAIK..so a full time station is absolutely necessary,I applaud these new developments...however they are just plans so far,not definitely going ahead..

Basically,I do not think the Regeneration Plan is as good as it could be regarding policing..there I said it.
YES,they are asking for more Gardai and getting them..
YES,CAB has an office down here now
YES,Moyross and Southill will probably get their own stations
YES,Limerick is getting more Community Gardai

BUT

Limerick needs its own dedicated Garda Helicopter;
'' needs a bigger armed response unit;
'' needs ALL of its stations to be full time and not overcrowded;
'' needs more Gardai;
These are things,IMO,that are necessary for the Regeneration scheme to work.The scheme is long overdue and I am confident that it will work...but only if the above is addressed!

Well thats my rant over...you know my opinions...what are yours?This need not solely concern Limerick City...what are the problems you would like to see addressed regarding policing in your areas.i.e.full time stations,more traffic units etc

mmassive wrote: »

Just to let you know...as far as I'm aware, that Roxboro Garda Station was in charge of patrolling and responding to criminal activity in the Castletroy area, not Henry St. It has been a major topic of debate with the local community in Castletroy over the past few years with the rapid expansion of the area. Unfortunately, I have heard that there has been no provision made for a Garda station being placed there in the near future. I remember a few years ago, there were rumours of a station being placed in the vacant land next to the Kilmurry Lodge and across the road from Chawkes....I wonder how far the crime rate would go down if you knew you were living next to a Garda Station (assuming you know who lives beside The Lodge! )

Havent heard about the southill g.s. but the sate will have no problem selling the site at mayorstone park as its worth millions. Prime land there beside Thomond Park. Cant see the point in building a new station in omp. as roxboro is only down the road.

One small thing that ive thought about is that when the gardai drive their private cars in to these estates to go to work all the undesirables will see the gardai in their cars. This i know will be a bad thing as it has led to young gardai been followed home and been intmadidated.

More Gardai are on the way, specialised units are been buffed up ie traffice and community units that had units strengths of 1 sgt and approx 12 gda to 4 sgt and approx 28 gda.

A heli is needed big time. it used to be down a lot of the time but havent seen it in ages.

Castletroy does need its own station but i think a simple answer here would be to buff up castleconnell station with more gda. Castletroy is exploding with development at the moment and needs a presence here full time.

Btw Henry st covers castletroy

Sierra Oscar

PeelerHurley wrote: »

Castletroy does need its own station but i think a simple answer here would be to buff up castleconnell station with more gda. Castletroy is exploding with development at the moment and needs a presence here full time.

Actually this is one thing that I have been wondering about - a few sources on the net seem to almost make castleconnell station sound like it is open each and everyday, and that it is a big station.

In fact, as far as I can recall it is tiny and most likely is only used during office hours a few days during the week? And if so it must be Gardai from Henry Street that are part time manning Castleconnell.

EDIT: Ah yes, according to this the station is only open during the hours of 10.00-1.00.

Garda3012

I tink more money shud b given 2 de gardai!!! And dat money shud b used wisely!!!!!!:o:o

Hagar

Please, please please, post in intelligent English, or Irish I don't mind.
That text speak crap is not allowed here.

remmurts

I'm not familiar with the geography of Limerick, so I am writing in general terms.

Are more Garda stations really the answer? How about just more Gardai who work out of the main station in the town/city, etc. I was always of the opinion that there are way too many Garda stations in Irelnad, especially in the urban areas. Each station eats up manpower just to keep it open without ever putting anyone on the beat.

A District with a station party of 100 will be lucky to keep one patrol car on the road at all times...that's an incredible inefficiency.

But imagine 100 extra Gardai deploying to a trouble spot in any area...they'd have a huge effect on crime. There'd be almost a Garda on every corner !!!

Steyr

If you ask me, every Garda should be on the beat save for a few to man the Stations and their paper/Court work should be given to the Civil Servants there is loads of them, in fact too many! they are used to that paperwork!:p

TheNog

Steyr wrote: »

If you ask me, every Garda should be on the beat save for a few to man the Stations and their paper/Court work should be given to the Civil Servants there is loads of them, in fact too many! they are used to that paperwork!:p

Jaysus the paperwork is a killer. I go nearly everyday and spend an hour or so doing paperwork. Like thats the car off the road for the sake of paperwork.