Ashamed to be Irish?

wildsaffy

(Am dictating this from behind my bullet proof sofa (in a quasi D4 accent) in case I get shot...)

I get irritated to death by Celebrity Jigs and Reels (a real Oirish tribute programme - what's wrong with dancing to traditional music?), people that think that Ireland ends at Blanchardstown (sometimes called Castleknock), the same people that seem to churn out the hogwash that portrays Ireland as some washed out muddled version of a modern European country.

No-one seems to want to know about the real things that make Ireland what it is, and in the rush to jump on the back of the now fading Celtic Tiger have lost some of that magic that Ireland had. And don't dare celebrate that magic in case the Tiger disappears altogether!

I would love to see real stories about real people, real dramas & stories that don't involve shiny people wearing Blahniks and not knowing what a piece of turf is - this gunge being pumped out drives me insane.

Although to be fair T4 has some great programmes ....

And in the rush for political correctness one is more likely to find the cultures of newly immigrant nations being celebrated ahead of the beautiful and unique Irish ones.

Anyway - I feel better now that I have unloaded that off my chest. I am off in my 4x4 to pick up the kids from the babysitters (she is a darling!), heading home to watch something crap on my big plasma screen while eating a takeaway. Oh, and must pick up some briquettes on the way home.

mikemac

You already posted this here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=54777319#post54777319

Why the double post?

RobbieTheRobber

micmclo wrote: »

You already posted this here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=54777319#post54777319

Why the double post?

im ashamed of people who make double posts

Latchy

Yeah OP ,Unfortunately some of us have to live in the real world (sigh) as opposed to the post celtic tiger ireland .

AckwelFoley

..and i still dont know what a tracker mortgage is?

Stompbox

I'm ashamed that I live in a society where I'm afraid to walk in a town or city at night for fear of assault. Should these fears be justified!? Where indeed has the love gone?!

Plug

snyper wrote: »

..and i still dont know what a tracker mortgage is?

Im in the wrong thread.

wildsaffy

(1) I posted in the wrong place and didn't know how to move the post. :rolleyes:
(2) I still don't know what a tracker mortgage is. The bank would shoot
me on sight if I said the word "mortgage" within its hallowed halls.
(also credit card, overdraft, etc etc)

RobbieTheRobber

wildsaffy wrote: »

(1) I posted in the wrong place and didn't know how to move the post. :rolleyes:
(2) I still don't know what a tracker mortgage is. The bank would shoot
me on sight if I said the word "mortgage" within its hallowed halls.
(also credit card, overdraft, etc etc)

wrong place or just not happy with no one thinking your opinion was controversial?

I know what a tracker bar is but not a tracker mortgage

wildsaffy

wildsaffy wrote: »

No-one seems to want to know about the real things that make Ireland what it is, and in the rush to jump on the back of the now fading Celtic Tiger have lost some of that magic that Ireland had. And don't dare celebrate that magic in case the Tiger disappears altogether!

I would love to see real stories about real people, real dramas & stories that don't involve shiny people wearing Blahniks and not knowing what a piece of turf is - this gunge being pumped out drives me insane.

Real stories about what??

• Sheep farmers in the (Baa)arse end of Mayo
• D4 types speaking as Gaeilge
• Dublin worker who commute from Offaly
• Chinese shopkeepers
• Redundant Belfast shipbuilders
• Limerick scumbags
• Retired stockbrokers.
• Mortgage brokers "who DO know what a tracker mortgage is"
• Teenagers living in the sticks.

Look and you shall find, but not every night, most television output is based on the formula of (largest audiance + advertising revenue) @lowest production costs.

Robbo

Get a David McWilliams book for Christmas, did we?

Terry

Deleted User wrote: »

Real stories about what??

• Sheep farmers in the (Baa)arse end of Mayo - Yes, move them all to cities along with the teenagers living in the sticks (see below)
• D4 types speaking as Gaeilge - Because only those living in hell or Connaught are allowed to speak our native tongue
• Dublin worker who commute from Offaly - Cheeky bastards.
• Chinese shopkeepers - And the problem is?
• Redundant Belfast shipbuilders - Is it the 80's again?
• Limerick scumbags - As opposed to scumbags from Miami, New Orleans, London, Belfast or Berlin?
• Retired stockbrokers. - More cheeky bastards. How dare they retire. How dare they have had the cheek to be stock brokers in the first place?
• Mortgage brokers "who DO know what a tracker mortgage is" - Isn't that their job?
• Teenagers living in the sticks. - See above, but don't get stuck in a loop.

Look and you shall find, but not every night, most television output is based on the formula of (largest audiance + advertising revenue) @lowest production costs.

Mindblowing stuff.

RxQueen

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I know what a tracker bar is but not a tracker mortgage

mmmmmmm tracker bars

* god that charlie bird is some twat someone change the chanel please

anyway back to the subject - damn 4 x 4's

RobbieTheRobber

emo!! wrote: »

mmmmmmm tracker bars

* god that charlie bird is some twat someone change the chanel please

anyway back to the subject - damn 4 x 4's

wrong thread but charlie bird is a twat though

RxQueen

woops was reading the other one just before reading this one and then i turn one the telly and there he was, grrrrrr

anyways back to the topic, i have no input towards it so im going to go wander!

Spyral

In ways I am ashamed to be Irish. Our country is rubbish compared to others. Our health service is the worst in the EU next to Romania apparently and our politicians are pretty useless from my experience. Our Police are powerless to stop a lot of crime and prices are high I find.

Living in the UK the last 3 years has made me think I may stay there for good. The government there has treated me better as an 'EU non national' than my own government.

The only thing about Ireland that I'm proud of is the fact that we HAD the balls to stand up for ourselves long ago but now that is gone and its a very ME ME ME culture with no one really seeming to care for the future.

Terry

Spyral wrote: »

In ways I am ashamed to be Irish. Our country is rubbish compared to others. Our health service is the worst in the EU next to Romania apparently and our politicians are pretty useless from my experience. Our Police are powerless to stop a lot of crime and prices are high I find.

Living in the UK the last 3 years has made me think I may stay there for good. The government there has treated me better as an 'EU non national' than my own government.

The only thing about Ireland that I'm proud of is the fact that we HAD the balls to stand up for ourselves long ago but now that is gone and its a very ME ME ME culture with no one really seeming to care for the future.

Yeah. That "ME ME ME culture" has a lot to answer for.
Thank god the Brits treated YOU better.

AckwelFoley

In ways I am ashamed to be Irish. Our country is rubbish compared to others. Our health service is the worst in the EU next to Romania apparently and our politicians are pretty useless from my experience. Our Police are powerless to stop a lot of crime and prices are high I find

ou are Void of any facts to support those claims.

Ive travelled to over 18 countries around the globe and i consider Ireland to e one of the better ones, if not the best.

I did however have your opinion when i was in my late teens and early 20's.

Its only when i got older i realised how well we have it here.

Jigsaw

Being Irish is great. I love being Irish and am very proud and wouldn't have it any other way. I was born in Northern Ireland so I have had to put up with the whole British/Irish thing. Nevertheless I consider myself Irish and I love the place. I love the people. Yeah sure there are things that could be improved but the country has an essence that is not replicated anywhere. God bless Ireland. This has inspired me to start another thread but I won't do it until tomorrow because I have taken drink and should go to bed for now anyway so.

Lil' Smiler

wildsaffy wrote: »

I get irritated to death by Celebrity Jigs and Reels (a real Oirish tribute programme - what's wrong with dancing to traditional music?)

Why not be like the rest of us and then and don't watch it and don't whinge about it??

I dislike these "ashamed to be irish" threads... why would being any other nationality make you feel more proud?


I like being Irish, it's always great being abroad and people seem to warm to you almost instantly from when you say "I'm from Ireland"...it's a big memory I have of a kid when I visited the states when I was young.

Bob in Belfast

OP there's a suicide thread from yesterday maybe that's the way to go. hehe

AckwelFoley

lol ^

Terry

Jigsaw wrote: »

Being Irish is great. I love being Irish and am very proud and wouldn't have it any other way. I was born in Northern Ireland so I have had to put up with the whole British/Irish thing. Nevertheless I consider myself Irish and I love the place. I love the people. Yeah sure there are things that could be improved but the country has an essence that is not replicated anywhere. God bless Ireland. This has inspired me to start another thread but I won't do it until tomorrow because I have taken drink and should go to bed for now anyway so.

Listen, take your bleedin' bull and shut up about it.

mise_me_fein

Just got back from New Years in Denmark - they are nice people but no doubt about it it's great to be Irish. Everyone loves us Paddy's, fair enough the Health System is crap and there's trouble with fights but you have to take the good with the bad.

My mate reckons coming back from being abroad is like Superman going home to Krypton.

AckwelFoley

Terry wrote: »

Listen, take your bleedin' bull and shut up about it.

Whats the problem with that mans post?

Do you have some higher knowledge base than the rest of us?

Are your opinions of greater value than others that you openly attack others on a public forum?

Disgraceful.

Mossy Monk

wildsaffy wrote: »

I get irritated to death by Celebrity Jigs and Reels (a real Oirish tribute programme - what's wrong with dancing to traditional music?),

Don't ****ing watch it then.

Terry

snyper wrote: »

Whats the problem with that mans post?

No problem with it.
I was going for a "Brown bull of Cooley" joke, but messed it up.

Do you have some higher knowledge base than the rest of us?

Are your opinions of greater value than others that you openly attack others on a public forum?

Yes to both.

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Don't ****ing watch it then.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

the_syco

Sweet wrote: »

I'm ashamed that I live in a society where I'm afraid to walk in a town or city at night for fear of assault. Should these fears be justified!? Where indeed has the love gone?!

Goto Canada. Armed cops all over the place (so I've been told by someone who grew up there).

=-=

When's the Jigs and Reels thing on? Sounds like it may be half decent. Noting compared to the program that has Irish trad music on TG4 a while back (no idea what it's called, but I like it).

Sonnenblumen

Jigsaw wrote: »

Being Irish is great. I love being Irish and am very proud and wouldn't have it any other way. I was born in Northern Ireland so I have had to put up with the whole British/Irish thing. Nevertheless I consider myself Irish and I love the place. I love the people. Yeah sure there are things that could be improved but the country has an essence that is not replicated anywhere. God bless Ireland. This has inspired me to start another thread but I won't do it until tomorrow because I have taken drink and should go to bed for now anyway so.

Fair play JigSaw, and BTW no worries about taking a drink, IMO there are plenty of Posters who post alot of the time under the influence and others, well they could be posting forever and never make sense.

Country bashers, if you cannot change it, leave it.

Latchy

Are scottish/welsh /irish people nicer than say the English (typical example and one that springs to mind ) just because they are Scottish/Welsh/Irish ? No cuz amoung all those races ,of whom i have mixed with over the years generally speaking , you will find a nice mix of the good the bad and the ugly (as well as the down right horrible ) Ireland is a great country and i am proud of being irish but you will find plenty of the above mentioned there to .

DEmeant0r

I'm ashamed to be Irish when the Irish racists over in Stormfront give us a bad name

AckwelFoley

Terry wrote: »

Yes to both.

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Strangely, i feel the same way about my opinions too

Terry

DEmeant0r wrote: »

I'm ashamed to be Irish when the Irish racists over in Stormfront give us a bad name

Huh?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54784440&postcount=46

DEmeant0r

Terry wrote: »

Huh?
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54784440&postcount=46

They're funny, but they still give us a bad name.

wildsaffy

Ah ... its great to be a stirrer....:D (the most replies I have ever got to a post he he).

I sat with an elderly lady a while back - she is quite ill - and she was telling me about our area in her youth. (She is 95).

A lot of fascinating stuff - madly interesting.

I went on an historical walk in our area - again - really interesting .....shows so many facets of the rich tapestry that Ireland is.

Some of which would be far better to watch than C list celebrities trying to jig to "We will Rock You" - while the studio (over)makeup slides down their faces. That sound in the distance is that of the sean-nós patriachs are rolling in their graves.

My main point is that Ireland is a lovely place, with great history, tradition, music - a tapestry of which much has been exported and has contributed greatly to the world in general. A lot of it unfortunately IMHO has to be learnt by getting outside and away from the the towns, the 'keeping up with the Jones', the sitting in traffic, the jigging celebrities...

What would you like the aliens to learn about Ireland and the Irish as a nation when they deign to tune into RTE or other channels?

saffy:cool:

SimpleSam06

Teenage French women love the whole "Irish" thing.

That is all.

wildsaffy

Sam - there is something of that going on....... My Swedish friend loves Irish Men, is going out with one (intros organised by mói) and wants another one for a swedish friend of hers.



Maybe there is a business idea lurking in there ....

DeVore

I'm ver proud to be irish. The only thing that has ever made me feel ashamed to be irish is being in my local centra when the ignorant Stormfrontesque chavs decide its time to play Bait-The-****** with the truely warm and friendly African security guard there who I see there every day. Charming little gurriers.

DeV.

Spyral

snyper wrote: »

ou are Void of any facts to support those claims.
Ive travelled to over 18 countries around the globe and i consider Ireland to e one of the better ones, if not the best.
I did however have your opinion when i was in my late teens and early 20's.
Its only when i got older i realised how well we have it here.

perhaps ... for now UK for me.

Yeah. That "ME ME ME culture" has a lot to answer for.
Thank god the Brits treated YOU better.

Well a countrys duty is to its citizens. Irelands is not so therefore people have to look after themselves ergo me me me.

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV

i'm recently back from living in amsterdam for a while and i didn't mind saying i was irish, at least it kept them from calling me english or something... hah. but yeah they like the irish more than the english it seems, quite alot of irish over there and they dont hide that they are irish.... they just think we are all alcoholics really. i didnt prove them wrong though as i took advantage of the cheaper drink as any irish would.

Toots

Lil' Smiler wrote: »

Why not be like the rest of us and then and don't watch it and don't whinge about it??

I dislike these "ashamed to be irish" threads... why would being any other nationality make you feel more proud?


I like being Irish, it's always great being abroad and people seem to warm to you almost instantly from when you say "I'm from Ireland"...it's a big memory I have of a kid when I visited the states when I was young.

+1, everyone loves the Irish! (except perhaps some of the english:p)

the_syco

but yeah they like the irish more than the english it seems

I think the Dutch police usually have 50 per cent more ambulances, water cannons, etc, if the English are over to watch a match, than if the Irish come over.

Why do I pick the English? Because Ireland and England are the two english speaking countries that play football in the European cups, so you're most likely one of the two, if you're there watching the football.

If you're a crowd of English, a water cannon will be nearby. That alone is one reason why it's great being Irish: we have a good rep abroad.

luckat

It's possible to love your country while seeing its flaws, and working to make it better.

Crumble Froo

Toots85 wrote: »

+1, everyone loves the Irish! (except perhaps some of the english:p)

actually, im in nz at the mo, and when i say im irish, first thing a lot of people think of is the IRA. ha, my fella's uncle would turn in his grave if he knew he was going out with an irish chick, he hated it. apparently we took a lot of jobs too. ha, though a mate who has the red hand of ulster tattood on his arm was hilariously sheepish when i found a brochure for this loyalist, anti-irish shop in the boot of his car.

mostly though, people tend to go, 'oh, cool. actually, i think my grandfather was irish....'

dSTAR

I came across this post in a My Space forum recently. Seems anti Irish feeling is alive and well in NYC. Feel free to abuse the ignoramus who wrote it.

My Space ID Slayer of Blue

Why I hate the irish

i can think of 300 irish people who i met who are assholes. and only 2 who are nice people and they are both only a quater irish. all irish people are pale with grainy gross skin.or trhey are all red in the face from drinking. the irish are always getting drunk and starting fights-
irish people drink alot and chain smoke constantly. they usually are rigid and uptight and have no sense of humor they are very black in their thinking, also very one dimensional. most irish people are uneducated and low class. usually getting jobs that pay a moderate salary but do not require great intelligience like a police officer, garbage man, security guard. i challenge you to come up with one great irish scientist, artist, or someone who contributed something beneficial to humanity.
furthermore all irish women are drug addicts. also they are filthy disease spreading whores who get drunk and talk **** to total strangers, and get in fights with other rats. so did i answer your question or do you need me to go. because i can go on forever.
if you study celtic history we know less about the irish then any other ancient civilization, because while the rest of the civilizations of the world were inventing writing, math and architecture the irish were still living in **** and dirt.

SimpleSam06

they are very black in their thinking

What does that even mean? I doubt that guys problems are reserved to the Irish.

i challenge you to come up with one great irish scientist, artist, or someone who contributed something beneficial to humanity.

lol.

if you study celtic history we know less about the irish then any other ancient civilization, because while the rest of the civilizations of the world were inventing writing, math and architecture the irish were still living in **** and dirt.

And the use of google is apparently not one of the skills he possesses.

What a sister-humping tit.

Crumble Froo

what bugs me most was the first post after that idiot. do comebacks actually come more lame than that?

i feel we were poorly represented.

dSTAR

Apparently its a chick. Her old man was probably Irish who got hooked up with her crack smoking old lady one night in some dive bar on the Lower East Side. When he saw what he spawned he probably left one night with a screech of burning tires swearing he would never return. As a result she grows up with a victim mentality and sees all Irish men as being bastards just like her old man who came to a sudden realization about the shallow trash culture all around him.