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Confey Train Station

  • 03-01-2008 9:23am
    #1
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    When is it gona fall into the canal?

    Any plans to look after the subsidence?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭steyr fan


    kearnsr wrote: »
    When is it gona fall into the canal?

    Any plans to look after the subsidence?


    Can you get any pics, go on give us all a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Lick of paint ... it'll be grand ..


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Confey station was only originally designed with one platform and a single track running through (there was no passing loop). When the station was being rebuilt a few years ago I wondered where they were going to fit the second (now the eastbound) platform, it seemed there was no room for one. It kinda leans over the canal. Doesn't look like there are subsidence problems yet, but give it a few years...

    In any case there are far bigger and more immediate problems to tackle on the Maynooth line namely the disgrace to Irish transport that is Broombridge...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    icdg wrote: »
    Confey station was only originally designed with one platform and a single track running through (there was no passing loop). When the station was being rebuilt a few years ago I wondered where they were going to fit the second (now the eastbound) platform, it seemed there was no room for one. It kinda leans over the canal. Doesn't look like there are subsidence problems yet, but give it a few years...

    In any case there are far bigger and more immediate problems to tackle on the Maynooth line namely the disgrace to Irish transport that is Broombridge...

    Have you been there recently? The entire Maynooth end of the platform is falling over... HUUUUUGE cracks up the tarmac surface, worrying lean on the back wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭fletch


    I thought Louisa Bridge was a lot worse???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Nah, Louisa Bridge is entirely solid at the Maynooth end (the station supports are on the platform!) and IIRC the far end is fine too.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    icdg wrote: »

    In any case there are far bigger and more immediate problems to tackle on the Maynooth line namely the disgrace to Irish transport that is Broombridge...

    Broombridge should be closed but its not gona fall into the canal
    MYOB wrote: »
    Have you been there recently? The entire Maynooth end of the platform is falling over... HUUUUUGE cracks up the tarmac surface, worrying lean on the back wall.


    I'd give it 6 months before it falls in.
    fletch wrote: »
    I thought Louisa Bridge was a lot worse???

    Lousia bridge is in good nic


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    random wrote: »
    Lick of paint ... it'll be grand ..

    And, sure, adding a few flower baskets might speed up the whole thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    kearnsr wrote: »
    Broombridge should be closed but its not gona fall into the canal
    The people who use the station would not be impressed with it being closed. It doesn't have the same numbers as Ashtown or busier stations but it is still useful.

    It's also useful as a transfer point to those that mistakenly get onto a Docklands train. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Skyhater


    daymobrew wrote: »
    It's also useful as a transfer point to those that mistakenly get onto a Docklands train. :p

    If I mistakenly got the Docklands train, I wouldn't be changing at Broombridge (unless i got on at Ashtown of course - Even then a Walk through the IFSC may be more preferable).

    Back on Topic: The canal side Confey platform is bad at the Maynooth end..... but it will take alot more than six months for it to "fall into the canal".
    IR should be able to fix the problem without closing the entire platform.... but they will have to do a proper job this time.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    daymobrew wrote: »

    The people who use the station would not be impressed with it being closed. It doesn't have the same numbers as Ashtown or busier stations but it is still useful.


    The station its self is a discrace. I'm not saying take the station away from Broombridge. The place used to be focal point for IR when there was alot of acitve industry there. The remains of the old platforms can still be seen.

    I would say that the numbers using the station you could justify closing it but you would want to be brave to do it!

    Skyhater wrote: »

    Back on Topic: The canal side Confey platform is bad at the Maynooth end..... but it will take alot more than six months for it to "fall into the canal".
    IR should be able to fix the problem without closing the entire platform.... but they will have to do a proper job this time.

    Why do you reckon it wont fall in, in 6 months? And what would your solution be to fixing it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LuckyStar


    I've been using that station for 4 1/2 years and never noticed... having said that I was usually late for my train or zoned out listening to music...

    I don't get the train anymore now that I have the car...

    SCREW YOU CIE!!!!!!!!

    I have to say I had the most unbelievable pleasure driving past the bus stops last night, looking at people standing in the pissing rain waiting god knows how long for their Dublin Bus "service"... there's the sadist in me!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Skyhater


    kearnsr wrote: »
    Why do you reckon it wont fall in, in 6 months? And what would your solution be to fixing it?

    Normally with subsidence there is alot of movement first then the ground stabilised. There isn't nearly enough movement to cause a total collapse in such a short timeframe.

    An adequate foundation obviously wasn't provided when originally constructed....... because it's so close to the canal, this probably should have included some type of Pile foundation


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Skyhater wrote: »

    Normally with subsidence there is alot of movement first then the ground stabilised. There isn't nearly enough movement to cause a total collapse in such a short timeframe.

    A heavey rain could casue that to collapse tomorrow. THe more rain i.e the wetter the ground the more chance of movement occuring. At the cycle loading due the trains the time frame for failure could be a lot quicker
    Skyhater wrote: »

    An adequate foundation obviously wasn't provided when originally constructed....... because it's so close to the canal, this probably should have included some type of Pile foundation

    A piled foundation probably would have been best here but thats expensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭Skyhater


    kearnsr wrote: »
    A heavey rain could casue that to collapse tomorrow. THe more rain i.e the wetter the ground the more chance of movement occuring. At the cycle loading due the trains the time frame for failure could be a lot quicker

    You're absolutely correct in saying the sodded ground increased the chances of a slippage.... it still think it has alot more than six month life.
    In any case, we're just speculating. IE should carry out an engineering study immediately and close that part of the platform if needed.
    A piled foundation probably would have been best here but thats expensive.
    They have a train station beside a canal.... and have to spend whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for the public. Cost shouldn't come into it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Skyhater wrote: »

    You're absolutely correct in saying the sodded ground increased the chances of a slippage.... it still think it has alot more than six month life.


    The time period is difficult to determine. I've seen things like this fail over night with out an evidence to suggest something might happen. I've seen things that take years that I would have thought would take weeks.
    Skyhater wrote: »

    They have a train station beside a canal.... and have to spend whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for the public. Cost shouldn't come into it.
    Of course cost is going to come into it. The priority the work been undertaken will depend on the cost involved and the consequence of failure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    kearnsr wrote: »
    The time period is difficult to determine. I've seen things like this fail over night with out an evidence to suggest something might happen. I've seen things that take years that I would have thought would take weeks.

    I wonder if Irish Rail know about the cracks and had them assessed? I haven't used that train for a good while, but remember seeing the gap in the tarmac (that was 2 years ago!). Maybe they've had it looked at and its okay (hopefully not by the same crowd that built it!!).


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Mizu_Ger wrote: »
    I wonder if Irish Rail know about the cracks and had them assessed? I haven't used that train for a good while, but remember seeing the gap in the tarmac (that was 2 years ago!). Maybe they've had it looked at and its okay (hopefully not by the same crowd that built it!!).

    You cant help but notice them so hopefully some one has picked them up. As far as I know they do routine inspections but not sure how often


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Pineapple stu


    Just after the up platform was built, the subsiding began. The builders then drilled through the platform and inserted steel rods from trackside through to the back to stop any more subsiding. I know cos i was there :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    More than a year after I posted this they have finally got there act together

    Looks like they are digging out the platform


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭Rawr


    kearnsr wrote: »
    More than a year after I posted this they have finally got there act together

    Looks like they are digging out the platform

    They actually got around to repairing it? Good stuff.

    I had always imagined them letting that wall fall in, leaving a thin strip of platform there. On one side, you'd still have the 'Mind the Gap' warning, on the other 'Mind the Canal' :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Rawr wrote: »
    They actually got around to repairing it? Good stuff.

    I had always imagined them letting that wall fall in, leaving a thin strip of platform there. On one side, you'd still have the 'Mind the Gap' warning, on the other 'Mind the Canal' :D

    They've started. They have some hoarded off but I assume they'll do the whole station


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