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Hulk

  • 30-12-2007 6:15pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 883 ✭✭✭


    am i the only one who came to this movie expecting very little and was completley blown away , this movie was trashed when it came out

    i thought it was possibly thee most inteligent and thoughtfull interepretation of a comic book tale ever

    maybe that was its problem


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Personally I loved it. Though I know friends of mine who simply laughed when they saw it.

    For me, its on par with V For Vendetta in its seriousness, though I think the difference was V demanded that, for its subject matter. People just weren't expecting that from HULK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    It's not as bad as its reputation suggests. That said, it's not as good as an Ang Lee film with Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly should've been either. It's well worth seeing for a different take on the comic book movie all the same, and it'll be interesting to see what Ed Norton does with the role.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I hated it at the time of release, although not for the reasons most people did. I was just never a big fan of the Hulk. However I watched it again while ago and was really impressed. I think Ang Lee did a really good job actually, just not what most people were expecting.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    While I found the 24esque* split screen stuff irritating I quite liked it. It's no V for Vendetta but a good film in its own right.

    *sorry I detest 24:o


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,107 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    moe_sizlak wrote: »
    i thought it was possibly thee most inteligent and thoughtfull interepretation of a comic book tale ever

    maybe that was its problem

    Maybe the problem is that, as with pretty much any comic book adaptation, people who don't read comics have a load of preconceptions about what comic books are like and thus what the film version should be like.

    Of course, the Hulk being an awful film with a rubbish plot and reliance on CGI to carry the film didn't exactly help. But the problem was the expectations. Honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Could have been better but definatly not as bad as people make it out to be.

    CGI doesn't help matters ofcourse.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I liked it a lot. I don't think it deserved a lot of the criticism it got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I like it a lot but hated the ending. I could be a bit biased though as I'm a big Bana/Connolly fan.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    The CGI was terrible alright. Shrek with a bad hairdo...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,480 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    5uspect wrote: »
    The CGI was terrible alright. Shrek with a bad hairdo...

    too right it was crap, saw it on RTE last night and it was the wrong director for this, I hope to god the next one with Ed Norton will be a bit better then this, but alas its CGI Hulk again, bring back Lou Ferrigno all is forgiven!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 105 ✭✭enner43


    5uspect wrote: »
    The CGI was terrible alright. Shrek with a bad hairdo...

    LOL. CGI ruined it IMO.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Everyone is being a bit too harsh on the cgi. I mean it's not exactly easy to make a giant green guy in tight shorts who can leap across deserts and survive a nuclear bomb look realistic.

    Maybe for the sequel they can just paint Ed Norton's scrawny body green and hang him on wires. I'm sure that'd look much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    I found it incredibly boring. When it comes to comic book movies I'll usually give them a second chance. For example I hated Fantastic Four 1 when it came out but I watched it again recently and learnt to enjoy it on it's intended level.

    However with Hulk I watched it again about I year ago and I stood by my verdict that it's just mind numbing rubbish. Most people criticise it for the CGI but I think the acting is the main shortcoming. Bana is fine but Nick Nolte singlehandly sinks the film for me and Jennifer Connolly as her usually annoying self doesn't help matters either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,480 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    New Hulk I have to say looks better then the Ang Lee Bloated Shrek Look
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13270377&postcount=69

    Also and I hope its so it looks like they might be borrowing then Gamma Chair from the TV series :)
    http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=13646493&postcount=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    That new Hulk looks disastrous. Really don't see how they think they'll pull off a look like that in a real world setting.

    On the first film. I enjoyed it and it didn't deserve the panning it got. Agree with pigman re: Nolte and Connolly. Nolte really hams it up. While Connolly was just irritating.

    But Hulk jumping around the desert fighting a small army i thought was done very well and I watched it in HD recently and really loved it. Didn't watch the whole film through though, last 20 minutes or so are very flat.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,020 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I haven't seen it since release, but I remember a sense of massive disapointment as I emerged from the cinema. I think Lee's goals to create an arthouse superhero film were a failure, as the dramatic and romantic elements meshed uncomfortably with the central conceit of a big green crushing machine. I also remember the CGI being appalling, in particular during the 'evil dog' sequence (if I am recollecting correctly) An interesting experiment, but one which I have no desire to watch again, especially when Batman Begins has shown that thoughful and unique superhero films can actually work extremely well.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Everyone is being a bit too harsh on the cgi. I mean it's not exactly easy to make a giant green guy in tight shorts who can leap across deserts and survive a nuclear bomb look realistic.
    ...especially when Batman Begins has shown that thoughful and unique superhero films can actually work extremely well.

    There's the thing, Batman is just a guy in a suit. I wonder would less of a camera filling Hulk work with more of a suggestive Cloverfield style view of him be better?

    /runs to fall out bunker...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    I love the new film look for the Hulk. It is very like the Planet Hulk/World War Hulk look from the graphic novels.

    CGI is needed if the film wants to be faithful to the size of the Hulk, and with the Abomination as the villain in this film, CGI will need to be used heavily. There are no men even close to being big enough to play the roles of either character. I loved Lou Ferringo in the tv series, but even he is a shrimp compared to the size the Hulk is meant to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Pigman II wrote: »
    I found it incredibly boring. When it comes to comic book movies I'll usually give them a second chance. For example I hated Fantastic Four 1 when it came out but I watched it again recently and learnt to enjoy it on it's intended level.

    However with Hulk I watched it again about I year ago and I stood by my verdict that it's just mind numbing rubbish. Most people criticise it for the CGI but I think the acting is the main shortcoming. Bana is fine but Nick Nolte singlehandly sinks the film for me and Jennifer Connolly as her usually annoying self doesn't help matters either.

    Have to agree. the Hulk is just bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭BrenC


    I really like it. I thought it was great when it came out and saw it the other night on RTE and watched it again. Very well done. Oh and the split-screen things were used to good effect I thought, you could see Lee was trying to get it looking slightly comicbooky


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    I think what was terrible about the Hulk is not what Ang lee did to it but the Hulk storyline itself. The main storyline of the Hulk is fairly crap to say the least so Ang did well to achieve what he did.

    That being said, there where a few ridiculous bits in it. Like when the Hulk starts bounding across america, and you see a radar tracking his movements, its like in 2 bounds hes jumped half way across america. Or Ang lee shoots this really long, 24esque cut scene of the hulk being taken deep underground to some laboratory, only for the next scene to be with him above ground again at his old home... what was the point???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭Reg'stoy


    The film does get better the more times you see it, I happened to see it again on Bog1 and really enjoyed it. I loved the whole 'A team' people crawling unhurt from mangled tanks and the voice coms from the downed helicrew "we're Ok" style of action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭CrazyTalk


    I'm the only person I know personally who liked the movie, well at least I thought I was, until I read this thread. Have to say, I like the way the Hulk looked, that image posted earlier looks like it's from a 4 year old computer game, I'm hoping it'll improve on release.
    As far as storyline goes, the whole aspect with his father was really unneeded, can't stand Nick Nolte for my life, everything besides him and the last 20 minutes was just grand imo. I'd watch this movie before I'd watch Spiderman 2+3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    Completely underrated film, the OP hit the nail on the head.
    Remake next year with ed norto next year though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭CrazyTalk


    Not a remake, a sequel.
    According to wiki it could also be a reboot
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk_%28film%29
    Also, apparently that picture posted earlier is concept art, thankfully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    I went to the cinema to watch The Hulk and I bought it on DVD. As so many other posters have said it really doesn't deserve the panning it got. It would be extremely difficult to make the movie people wanted considering the stage CGI is at.
    What's the director supposed to do? A body builder would have looked rediculous and CGI just isn't there yet.
    I agree Nick Nolte was annoying but I wouldn't go so far as to say it ruined the whole movie for me.

    I can only imagine that people's expectations were so high that they were impossible to fufill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭Wacker


    eo980 wrote: »
    What's the director supposed to do?

    Don't make it at all. If it can't be done right, then why attempt it? The Hulk really looked awful. Maybe he can look better now if they use motion-capture CGI like Gollum or King Kong. I haven't heard that they're doing that though, which probably means that they aren't.
    L31mr0d wrote: »
    That being said, there where a few ridiculous bits in it. Like when the Hulk starts bounding across america, and you see a radar tracking his movements, its like in 2 bounds hes jumped half way across america

    According to the comics, the Hulk can actually do that. I'm not saying that as a defense though; what works in comics rarely works in film and they should have toned down his powers accordingly. I'd far prefer to see him able to take down a few tanks, but with one at least getting the impression that he is in danger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    eo980 wrote: »
    I went to the cinema to watch The Hulk and I bought it on DVD. As so many other posters have said it really doesn't deserve the panning it got. It would be extremely difficult to make the movie people wanted considering the stage CGI is at.
    What's the director supposed to do? A body builder would have looked rediculous and CGI just isn't there yet.
    I agree Nick Nolte was annoying but I wouldn't go so far as to say it ruined the whole movie for me.

    I can only imagine that people's expectations were so high that they were impossible to fufill.


    indeed. hopefully with what weve seen with transformers CGI is at the stage where he wont look as plasticy.

    personally i loved this. its not your typical action film being more of a greek tragedy with action in it.

    i though elliot was great as ross and banna played the emotionally fecked up side of bruce well.

    the problem for me is most people seem to equate the hulk to the TV series which this had nothing to do with as that has as much in common with the comic as the seventies spiderman series has with the sam raimi stuff. as a translation of the comic its incredibly faithfull in places . particularly when you find out the core motivation of bruces rage in connection with what his father did when he was a kid.

    thats exactly what peter david wrote in the comic.

    to me hulk is far more about the emotions than anyting else and i thought lee did a good job on it. particularly now that its out of the way theyre free in the sequel to just lay into the action.

    another poster wanted to play down the hulks power, i coundnt be further from that position. i WANT to see the hulk toppling skyscrapers by slamming his palms together to genreate a shockwave and diving through building fighting the abomination. thats the whole point of a multimillion dollar film

    bloke in paint we can see on telly.


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