Disconnection Protection

Ollieboy

I've just been involved in a hand where a player disconnected from the Ipoker software to avail of the Disconnection Protection option on Ipoker. I believe the player was about to fold on the turn, but when he disconnected the cards are flip over as if its showdown at that stage and river dealt etc. I was drawing at the time and missed, but he would have found it impossible to call my bet on the turn with his pocket pair with 2 overcards on the board.

I feel that no table on the ipoker network should allow Disconnection Protection as it allows players to cheat. This is the first time I've notice a player use this option incorrectly to save him money and give him a option of wining the hand cheaply.

I urge all skins and cages on the ipoker network to discuss this matter with Ipoker urgently and review the software option. I personally will consider taking my action elsewhere on cash tables, if I come across this type of cheating again.

You only get this option once at the table during a session and only some tables have it, but we all have to follow the fish and action.

I did report the above incident to support and they agree it appears to be abuse of disconnection protection, but I doubt I'll get a cent back etc. I also asked about feedback and they said this is not possible due to etc etc reason. I feel the above player should never have the option enable again and the hand should be award to me, all 156$ of it...

dougee19

i actually got disconnected in a hand earlier, it was on the river though, and i was never calling. but when i reconnected the guy freaked at me for trying to cheat and win the pot without calling the bet, also reported me appartently... i'll be okay because i had complained about connection earlier, asked was it the server
even though i got disconnected i still agree with your post... when i'm not on dial-up i definately prefer to play a (no dp) table.. it does seem that players do prefer the DP game... but to be honest, i havent seen this happen much. i expected it more but i dont think that many people do take advantage of it and i really cant see pp giving you any money, its happened to me before and ive never got a cent off of them

Chucky the tree

there are special tables that dont have DP.

corkie123

Ollieboy wrote: »

I've just been involved in a hand where a player disconnected from the Ipoker software to avail of the Disconnection Protection option on Ipoker. I believe the player was about to fold on the turn, but when he disconnected the cards are flip over as if its showdown at that stage and river dealt etc. I was drawing at the time and missed, but he would have found it impossible to call my bet on the turn with his pocket pair with 2 overcards on the board.

I feel that no table on the ipoker network should allow Disconnection Protection as it allows players to cheat. This is the first time I've notice a player use this option incorrectly to save him money and give him a option of wining the hand cheaply.

I urge all skins and cages on the ipoker network to discuss this matter with Ipoker urgently and review the software option. I personally will consider taking my action elsewhere on cash tables, if I come across this type of cheating again.

You only get this option once at the table during a session and only some tables have it, but we all have to follow the fish and action.

I did report the above incident to support and they agree it appears to be abuse of disconnection protection, but I doubt I'll get a cent back etc. I also asked about feedback and they said this is not possible due to etc etc reason. I feel the above player should never have the option enable again and the hand should be award to me, all 156$ of it...

to be fair it happen to me a few times before on both sides of the fence
and tonight it happened when i was holding the nuts and i could not bet it out properly .i think it happens a lot and should be shelved from the ipoker site .but in saying that i also find that i disconnect from both pp and gjp a lot and i have broadband and should not be doing so as it never seems to happen on other sites i play . so maybe ipoker site itself has this fault in it system and that why it allows it .
just my 2 cents on it

Ollieboy

corkie123 wrote: »

to be fair it happen to me a few times before on both sides of the fence
and tonight it happened when i was holding the nuts and i could not bet it out properly .i think it happens a lot and should be shelved from the ipoker site .but in saying that i also find that i disconnect from both pp and gjp a lot and i have broadband and should not be doing so as it never seems to happen on other sites i play . so maybe ipoker site itself has this fault in it system and that why it allows it .
just my 2 cents on it

I think this is more the problem. Ipoker seem to have problems with there servers and connection speeds, but still insist in charging us, "the customer" full wack for a poor services. There attitude seems to be screw the customer as much as possible.

Did anyone else notice that the guarantees were all drop for the Xmas period, just incase numbers were down and they had to add money. If it wasn't for the fish on the network I wouldn't touch it.

You never see these problems on Pokerstars or Full Tilt etc, even the Boss Network is more stable with no lagging.

sickpuppy

I poker is pile of piss.
Not since the old days of betfair have i heard of so many complaints.
I personally have voted with my feet dont care how soft the games are.
The constant disconnects are a pain in the hole.
Seems the whole site has crashed now fishey or not is it worth the hassle i think not.

green123

bring back tribeca

Mr. Flibble

I've had a number of disconnections over the last few weeks which have certainly cost well over $100. If it wasn't for DP I wouldn't consider playing at iPoker. The solution on your side seems simple, sit at no DP tables.

I agree that iPoker is a pile of piss connections wise and I'd move in a flash if it wasn't for vested interests in it.

Ollieboy

Mr. Flibble wrote: »

I've had a number of disconnections over the last few weeks which have certainly cost well over $100. If it wasn't for DP I wouldn't consider playing at iPoker. The solution on your side seems simple, sit at no DP tables.

I agree that iPoker is a pile of piss connections wise and I'd move in a flash if it wasn't for vested interests in it.

If you get disconnect from the software because of problems with your internet provider or connection problems on your side, than thats your problem and the other player shouldn't lose out because of it.

But if the problem is the software or abuse by other players, this is not correct and a unfair option in the software.

As for your point about moving to tables without protection, thats a pointless point to make, as all the fish are generally on the tables with DP.

The correct option is to take my business elsewhere if the software provider cant provide the service that they advertised and they are also liable to cover my losses in the above incidences.

I've not notice this option on other sites, as anyone else?

Mr. Flibble

Ollieboy wrote: »

If you get disconnect from the software because of problems with your internet provider or connection problems on your side, than thats your problem and the other player shouldn't lose out because of it.

But if the problem is the software or abuse by other players, this is not correct and a unfair option in the software.

As for your point about moving to tables without protection, thats a pointless point to make, as all the fish are generally on the tables with DP.

The correct option is to take my business elsewhere if the software provider cant provide the service that they advertised and they are also liable to cover my losses in the above incidences.

I've not notice this option on other sites, as anyone else?

Its hard to say who is at fault when I get disconnected. If I'm on a perfect connection I don't get disconnected. But on my usual gammy connection where I get disconnected from iPoker I can continue to play fine on PS PP and FT. So its probably fair to say we are both at fault.

Regards my pointless point, why are all the fish on the DP tables. Do you really want to get rid of them if thats where fish like to play?

I just think its silly to sit at a DP table then complain when it comes into effect, annoying as it may be.

opr

Ollieboy wrote: »

I've not notice this option on other sites, as anyone else?

This option has always been their afaik. Even as far back as i can remember playing on UB when i first started online. As already said if your not happy with it sites have tables with no DP protection.

Opr

Ollieboy

you are totally missing the point here. There is no need for DP. Having it will allow low lifes to take advantage of it. I believe most of the problems with disconnection are I-poker problems, hence they should compensate the player involved.

I dont know what limit you guys play, but if I'm looking for a 5/10 or 10/20 etc table full ring, I would be lucky to find 2 tables on I-Poker, so it doesn't really give me the option to look for tables with no DP.

Ollieboy

The correction option here is to allow a 3 minute timebank similiar to stars and bigger timebank the higher the levels you play. The more hands you play, the bigger your timebank should get. Not just a simple solution that favours the cheats on your network.

phantom_lord

why am i the only person that never has problems with ipoker?

dvdfan

Have to say when it comes to network problems there almost a non existant problem for me over the past few months other than today so i think its unlikely to be completely ipokers fault and more likely a combination of problems.

Ive also never been in a situation where someone has used DP to cheat against me but im sure it does happen and i can definetely understand been very annoyed. But in all fairness its very very hard to prove unless they do it on a regular basis and even then they have no proof, if someone dp's when they have a set on a flush board for example and got raised all in its probably about as likely as having 2 people dealt KK preflop and 1 person being dealt AA or as likely as hitting a royal flush BUT it does happen so how do you differentiate.

How would you feel if you genuinely got dc'd in such a situation and ipoker contacted you to say you abused your dp and awarded the pot to the other player. If it can be proven i say fair enough but i dont think it can be and unless they can prove it im sure they would be facing a legal battle if they tried to reverse winnings from one account to the other. Lots of people do the bring back Tribeca line but how many tribeca bashing threads were there, IMO ipoker is better than tribeca but i do agree people seem to have alot more disconnection problems with ipoker.

Ollieboy

phantom_lord wrote: »

why am i the only person that never has problems with ipoker?

you must live beside the Ipoker Server or something!!!

Ace2007

Is there a set number of disconnetions that you can have? as i always sawt the DP at either 0 or 1 - have never seen it above 1 - then again - i play very little online(maybe even less than 5starpool)

Macspower

Ollie.... so frustrating isn't it.... I've now given up complaining and you know the letter you got from support? it's just a generic response... the next time you complain you'll get the exact same letter just with the name changed... If you complain enough they will actually point out how many times you used DB..... told me the last time that I had used it a total of 32 times in a month..... but since I can have anything up to 16 tables open this is only about 3 disconnects..... I have never benefited from it and it's only a way of cheating for scumbags IMO....

you'll get a speel from i-poker about the reset timing of DB protection to stop this kind of thing.... but it doesn't help when a scoat is drinking your money somehwere after pulling the plug with the flush draw that you knew he had and hence bet an ammount that he couldn't call......

drives me mad but very little I can do I think....

Mr. Flibble

Ollieboy wrote: »

you are totally missing the point here. There is no need for DP. Having it will allow low lifes to take advantage of it. I believe most of the problems with disconnection are I-poker problems, hence they should compensate the player involved.

I dont know what limit you guys play, but if I'm looking for a 5/10 or 10/20 etc table full ring, I would be lucky to find 2 tables on I-Poker, so it doesn't really give me the option to look for tables with no DP.

$1/$2
If iPoker decided to get rid of DP I wouldn't have a major problem with it but I would have to find somewhere else to play.
Where iPoker is concerned I appear to have a bad connection but I want to play there and DP makes it less painful.

Until recently I didn't have any connection problems. Before I did I would have agreed completely that there is no need for it and it shouldn't be in place. But now, getting disconnected so much, its nice having it there to lessen the blow of the losses.

iPoker do make it difficult to reset your DP - it took a number of support chats and emails before they agreed to reset mine - the norm is to make you wait 3 weeks I think which makes it hard to abuse.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

there are two things you can do Ollie 1.do not play the DP tables or 2. continue to report the guys you come across doing this.
This has happened to me at least 3/4 times and i reported each one to support and was told one of the them had their DP privileges removed after they checked through the guys history and found he had done it a number of times to see a cheap river card.

Mellor

phantom_lord wrote: »

why am i the only person that never has problems with ipoker?

I think I've been disconnected only once ever.

Vamos

I've had the disconnect thing work against me a lot on ipoker. I've also got disconnected a lot on ipoker, all while playing simultaneously on other networks without a problem. It's nearly like the dp is there to protect against ipokers own f-ups. I moved from ipoker a few weeks ago and haven't been disconnected once. Glad I did.