Full metal m203 china clone

Stercus Accidit

http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=1398
http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=1397

Both sizes available, ris only mounts by the looks of it.

Arcto

Good find man. Im getting a RIS rail system tomorow and was looking for a cheap 203. Now if i can convince an aurora bomber to deliver it i might have it in time for xmass

hoplite

Old news Gunner had them first

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055199960

One on the way early Jan hopefully.

Arcto

Ah yeah i thought that one was all plastic though. Guess not. Inscisions incisions....

Stercus Accidit

hoplite wrote: »

Old news Gunner had them first

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055199960

One on the way early Jan hopefully.

Pfft, all metal, plastic, difference

Alvin T. Grey

Got one already from the good folks at MIA.
Santa must have read my post and decided "Better safe then parachuting".

hoplite

Motosam wrote: »

Pfft, all metal, plastic, difference

Some metal some plastic in my one sure we'll see if it works when it lands.

Stercus Accidit

hoplite wrote: »

Some metal some plastic in my one sure we'll see if it works when it lands.

These new ones are all metal bar handgrip, the ones people mentioned on gunners is only a metal barrel.
Thats the one you've coming then. May make sense though, I already have a heavy dboys m4 metal, a very heavy full metal scope, and yekno I would stick a full metal grenade launcher one if Given half the chance, feck it I'm going to weigh the m4 as is and see how much Id be lugging around.
Edit: 3.7 kg, aeg and scope


From what I know about grenade launchers, (which is not alot :eek:), they are a pipe and a firing pin!

Not much to go wrong!

Now if only they'd do a standard non ris mount.

hoplite

Grenade launchers are for pimping your AEG

I reckon if they fire its a bonus

Masada

saw one firing on saturday., i want one!.,lol

Stercus Accidit

hoplite wrote: »

Grenade launchers are for pimping your AEG

I reckon if they fire its a bonus

And in this case, adding 1-1.5 kgs in weight!

Gran Hermano

Yuletide greetings!

Anyone have a suggestion on how to mount one of these
onto a Dboys M4 A1 (metal body)? I'm guessing I'll have to change
the hand guard to some RIS friendly type, taking the fact that the battery
is contained in the hand-guard into account, can anyone suggest a link
to the particular rail that will fit both the AEG and the m203.

Cheers.

Masada

i think its just a 20mm rail and the front RIS grip is on ehobby.,

chalky

vtec wrote: »

saw one firing on saturday., i want one!.,lol

Twas a friend firing mine.... at me!!!
The bastard!

Masada

lol., think i was on your team then.,
was cool though, i still want one.,:D

Cheeky monkey

M203 on a VSR-10?:D:D:D

Arcto

hoplite wrote: »

Grenade launchers are for pimping your AEG

I reckon if they fire its a bonus

They are an intimidation device. Nothing scares like the prospect of 168 BB's flying at you at once!

Alvin T. Grey

Arcto wrote: »

They are an intimidation device. Nothing scares like the prospect of 168 BB's flying at you at once!

Actually the thought of Cheeky and Liamo getting gillie suits from Santa scares the snot out of me. M203s are easy compared to that.

Arcto

Allright then! Turns out shes a RAS kit. Anyone know the difference for the non ris/ras aquinted?

Stercus Accidit

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Yuletide greetings!

Anyone have a suggestion on how to mount one of these
onto a Dboys M4 A1 (metal body)? I'm guessing I'll have to change
the hand guard to some RIS friendly type, taking the fact that the battery
is contained in the hand-guard into account, can anyone suggest a link
to the particular rail that will fit both the AEG and the m203.

Cheers.

Get a crane stock and have the battery in there, or a solid stock.

Cranes take a particular shape battery.

Or maybe have a battery made that would fit the ris handguard, I always wondered if that could be done.

Fallschirmjager

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Yuletide greetings!

Anyone have a suggestion on how to mount one of these
onto a Dboys M4 A1 (metal body)? I'm guessing I'll have to change
the hand guard to some RIS friendly type, taking the fact that the battery
is contained in the hand-guard into account, can anyone suggest a link
to the particular rail that will fit both the AEG and the m203.

Cheers.

actually you dont you can buy a lower rail to attach to the lower part of the front grip..
one of these
http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=481



i would warn you tho, that is a lot of weight. even with a ris, the ones that split in half, you need to be careful...

if you have a ris like this


you have the same problem. it will work, but if you trip when running and fall or give it a thump, you stand a chance of it coming off the delta ring.

if you have a one piece ris, no worries at all...you can get a front barrel attachment also that provides extra support, cant find these on rsov but they do exist. you see it on some of the m203's...

hoplite

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

actually you dont you can buy a lower rail to attach to the lower part of the front grip..
one of these
http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=481

Nice find I was going to jerry rig something with some nuts and bolts but this is a much better job for a standard handguard.

chalky

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

actually you dont you can buy a lower rail to attach to the lower part of the front grip..
one of these
http://www.rsov.com/product_info.php?products_id=481

I got one of those, They're crap!!

cplcummins

how much for it??

would it mount onto a VFC Scar!!

Fallschirmjager

chalky wrote: »

I got one of those, They're crap!!

try item number 270198796842





same thing applies, the delta ring is under a lot of strain. most of these rails bolted to a foregrip are for torches, lasers and grips

Captain Chaos

cplcummins wrote: »

how much for it??

would it mount onto a VFC Scar!!

It would indeed, but I'm holding out for the EGLM that VFC are bringing out for the SCAR.

Fallschirmjager

cplcummins wrote: »

how much for it??

would it mount onto a VFC Scar!!

if you mean the 203, yes you could....the vfc has a lower rail.

Longsword_CZ

cplcummins wrote: »

how much for it??

would it mount onto a VFC Scar!!

Please, for sake of design and realism, wait for M320. Mounted M203 under SCAR is like mounted wooden wheel on Formula One car ...
M203 is designed for M16/M4 type of gun and in real never exist in RIS/RAS modification, as is selled now in AS, due weight and due power of back blast.
AS M203 RIS is suitable for guns with S-system or another system what reinforced connection between body and barrel. So if you really wanna use this thing, do it on this types of guns otherwise you risk bending of barrel, or worst wreck barrel and body as well.

Captain Chaos

The M320 is different again and is a variation of the AG36.

The EGLM MK13 is for the SCAR and will also fit an M4 with an RIS.

Stercus Accidit

In that case I'll wait for the authentic mounted one, the barrel clamped type.

They are doing clone 40mm shells soon too, cant remember when they are out.

Captain Chaos

Longsword_CZ wrote: »

M203 is designed for M16/M4 type of gun and in real never exist in RIS/RAS modification, as is selled now in AS, due weight and due power of back blast.

RIS M203s do exist in real life, the USMC have started to field them with their new issue M16A4s, IIRC.

Longsword_CZ

Captain Chaos wrote: »

RIS M203s do exist in real life, the USMC have started to field them with their new issue M16A4s, IIRC.

Have You some docs., pics., or something? It´s will be great (no, not really, I recetly buy one "normal" for my ICS for huge amount of money and now this "dissaster" ...). Have You some intel about specific units participated on this testing program? How they resolve problem with back blast? Does need a gun some special treatment, reinforcement?
Thank You for info.

But still (I hope) SCAR is designed for M320, right?

Fallschirmjager

you could ask over on the real steel forum....

Captain Chaos

Longsword_CZ wrote: »

But still (I hope) SCAR is designed for M320, right?

The M320 is a RIS only launcher, in short and long versions with a pistol grip, I have seen them on M16s, M4s, HK416s and HK417s. You could put one on the SCAR but FNH has developed the Mk13 EGLM for the SCAR Mk16 and Mk17.

Captain Chaos

I seem to be wrong about the real RIS M203.

There are new versions called the M203A1 for the 9'' and the A2 for the 12''.
They use a new mounting system for M4/M16s with RIS rails, its still the old ring clamp system but modified.

In the link there is an M16A4 with M203A2 and an M4A1 with M203A1.
http://www.navyseal.it/Vere.htm

So yes the airsoft RIS M203s are not 100% realistic.

Longsword_CZ

Eh, You scared me little bit. This version of M203 is (basically) just adjusted version of "old" one. It´s still barrel mounted system where lower RIS is unmounted from RIS/RAS front.

Still M203 RIS as is in AS does not exist in real, as You say.

M320 is designed for SCAR and HK416 (logicaly, they are rivals for same assessment in same armed forces), but is obviously normal, that soldier, when have choice, use the best part, especially if this soldier is "Special forces" .

Notice under line. As Capitain Chaos (nice nick ) explain, there is plenty of modifications (caled Mk something), these numbers mean just only that the basic "product" was customized (e.g. for fitting on designed gun as we see on M203). Usually almost all parameters of "product" are same in different Mk modifications. Exception is "generation" modification, as we see on M16´s (A1 to A3 and A2 to A4).

Alvin T. Grey

Does it matter?
/Polishes M203 slung under his G36C.....

hoplite

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

Does it matter?
/Polishes M203 slung under his G36C.....

Glad to see there's a precedent cos thats where my M203 is going too

Captain Chaos

Longsword_CZ wrote: »

M320 is designed for SCAR and HK416 (logicaly, they are rivals for same assessment in same armed forces), but is obviously normal, that soldier, when have choice, use the best part, especially if this soldier is "Special forces" .

The M320 is a general replacement for the M203 and is not specifically designed for any particular assault rifle, anything wuth an underbarrel RIS can have a M320 fitted.

Here is a M320 ''shorty'' on a HK417.


Now here is the Mk 13 EGLM designed for the SCAR L and H.

Captain Chaos

Longsword_CZ wrote: »

Notice under line. As Capitain Chaos (nice nick ) explain, there is plenty of modifications (caled Mk something), these numbers mean just only that the basic "product" was customized (e.g. for fitting on designed gun as we see on M203). Usually almost all parameters of "product" are same in different Mk modifications. Exception is "generation" modification, as we see on M16´s (A1 to A3 and A2 to A4).

The Mk designation is used by the US SOCOM.

The SCAR-L is called the MK 16 Mod 0.
The SCAR-H is the MK 17 Mod 0.
The FN EGLM is the MK 13 Mod 0.

But I know what you mean, the MK 11 Mod 0 is not just a SR-25, it's an SR-25 with a certain KAC RIS, scope and bipod.

Longsword_CZ

Captain Chaos wrote: »

The Mk designation is used by the US SOCOM.

The SCAR-L is called the MK 16 Mod 0.
The SCAR-H is the MK 17 Mod 0.
The FN EGLM is the MK 13 Mod 0.

But I know what you mean, the MK 11 Mod 0 is not just a SR-25, it's an SR-25 with a certain KAC RIS, scope and bipod.

Thanks for complete my explanation.

In shortcut, let me see, that all rifles and grenade launchers in U.S. Armed Forces are so many times modified, that is really hard sometime stay in picture. Basic is, M16 is long rifle, M4 short, M203 grenade launchers old generation, M320 grenade launchers new generation, M79 is old grenade launcher (weapon) and EGLM is grenade launcher (weapon) new. Instead of M16/M4 suppose to be HK416, SCAR, maybe XM8 , maybe something newest ... (And M14 (EBR), SR25, M21, M24, M82A1 Barret, Beretta M9, Colt 1911, Glock ... and looot of another guns (I´m soo glad, that I´m "doing" French modern army ) ... )