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EOS "made a balls of world cup" shock admission

  • 24-12-2007 8:50am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭


    In a shock admission last night Fast Eddie revealed to an awestuck Irish rugby public that yes, he had indeed "made a balls of the world cup". But true to form, and in an eerie echo of those surreal post WC match interviews, he goes on to say that, while he knows exactly what went wrong, he's not telling anyone...so there...Good man Ned you're a ligind...Who needs Genesis when steady Ed is so ready to step up to the plate?

    Source: The man himself......last night in an interview with the Irish daily Mail....widely reported in all the press today......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    What?

    *confused*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Amz wrote: »
    What?

    *confused*

    Quote from the Daily Mail saying EOS SAID "I made a balls of the situation in France"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Ok, because from the original post it's very unclear that that came from anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby/article3087692.ece
    “Look, I made a balls of the World Cup,” he told The Sunday Times. “Hands up, it went badly wrong. I now know why. I’m not hiding behind anything. I got a strategic aspect of our build-up wrong and it hurt us badly.”

    He knows this won’t be enough for the vultures in the media – and the odd one on the union committee – who will be satisfied only when his head is on a stake outside Lansdowne Road, but he was still happy to give his side of the story: about the contract, the review, the rumours, the hotel, the media and the future. But first, how it went wrong.

    PO’R: So it was all down to lack of match practice?

    EO’S: It was the biggest single problem, the biggest single mistake, and I got it wrong, 100%. I had a limited window of 12 weeks from the end of last season and, if I had my time again, I would certainly have spent a lot more time preparing to play rugby and cut our fitness preparation by two to three weeks minimum. And I would have played another two full matches in the build-up, try and get high-profile games. I think that would have got us ready.

    What a load of bullsh!t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭NotWormBoy


    PO’R: Is there anything else you would change in the build-up, given another chance?

    EO’S: [Pause] By and large, no. Not playing enough rugby was the biggest mistake we made.

    R-ight.

    Good to see he's 'learning' from his mistakes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    NotWormBoy wrote: »
    R-ight.

    Good to see he's 'learning' from his mistakes.

    Yeah, 'not playing enough rugby' what utter bollocks. The two form teams in the competition SA and The Pumas played bugger all serious rugby in the run up, or tested themselves against rugby titans such as ahem...Belgium...and they seemed to do rather well thanks very much...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭Nukem


    Bah! That took how may months to come out? Well coordinated IRFU plant. Heard that at the Connacht V Ulster match a few weeks ago he was there and a mass of subs were introduced during the game. Upon the subs being introduced taunting ensued along the lines of "eddie thats what you should do" and subsequently he left 5 mins after of teh subs.

    EOS is dead to me - com'on Bradley :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 718 ✭✭✭thirdmantackle


    what about playing the subs vs the starting team in training?

    that would give them more rugby

    he's just making excuses for the team being OVERTRAINED before and during the WC as well as too much emphasis and talk about fitness etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    He realised that a visit to Argentina was a catastrophe of an idea, so he pulled his best players, who then went a full sumer without game-time. But that's ok - he knows where he went wrong - so our best side ever went to waste, but that's ok - he won't do it again. Only in Ireland can such bumbling incompetence be accepted. Sack the clown.

    The players are to blame too. The results against Namibia and Georgia come down to more than a lack of match sharpness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    davyjose wrote: »

    The players are to blame too. The results against Namibia and Georgia come down to more than a lack of match sharpness.

    Agreed, and I know this as been gone over ad nauseum, but I would really, really like to know why the Irish team in the world cup: (A) played like they'd just met in the car park before the match and, (B) like they couldn't stand the sight of each other.

    I've resigned myself to never knowing but jaysis I'd love if someone broke ranks and gave us, the long suffering punters, a frank and honest analysis of what happened...at this point I think people would just be relieved to know, be able to acknowledge the shambles, and take steps to ensure it doesnt happen again.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    I'm hoping someone like Denis Hickie can come out and he doesn't have anything to lose from the IRFU.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    toomevara wrote: »
    (B) like they couldn't stand the sight of each other.
    Exacly - because they couldn't. Sometimes the best players in the team aren't the best players for the team - ask Steve McClaren. Personally, i feel that Irish Rugby is in a rut. Leinster, Ulster are looking like second rate sides - Munster doing OKish, but compare that to 2 years ago. Jesus there is a Cancer in the whole IRFU.
    First thing, ditch Eddie - number 2, make a forward the captain - the natural selection would be POC, but jesus he needs a kick up the hole too (unless he's been on fire since I saw him last - Argentina match).
    But what we need is another 10. I'm sorry but I sang and shouted so much about ROG in '03- but anyone with a monopoly on a position will never push themselves (personal issues aside - the Rugby pitch s the guys only escape if he has f**ked up in real life - not somewhere he's gonna daydream, so I don't buy that) - and I really think ROG was fat and lazy (metaphorically). If Humphries hadda been on that bench, ROG woulda felt him barking up his ass - as in '03!!!

    I haven't been on this forum in a while, because really, my spirit is broken. Now you can call me a fairweather supporter (which I'm not - I've booked off the whole 6N [I work shift, so I have to]) but Irish Rugby is going flat, and I really just have nothing to say about it this last few months.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,951 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    davyjose wrote: »
    First thing, ditch Eddie - number 2, make a forward the captain - the natural selection would be POC, but jesus he needs a kick up the hole too (unless he's been on fire since I saw him last - Argentina match).


    I've seen nothing from POC to suggest he is captain material. He's hardly been stellar in the role for either Munster or Ireland (though there is something of a dearth of options).
    If Humphries hadda been on that bench, ROG woulda felt him barking up his ass - as in '03!!!

    Humphs is way, way past it at international level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    davyjose wrote: »

    I haven't been on this forum in a while, because really, my spirit is broken. Now you can call me a fairweather supporter (which I'm not - I've booked off the whole 6N [I work shift, so I have to]) but Irish Rugby is going flat, and I really just have nothing to say about it this last few months.

    No I dont think you're a fairweather fan, I reckon the sentiment you've expressed is really common among serious Irish rugby fans at the moment. It isnt the defeats or the losses, christ knows you sign up to Irish Rugby thats pretty much your lot, it's the manner of them and the cavalier fashion in which fans are treated. Kinda get the feeling we've all been mugged and I dont bleedin' like it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭SpAcEd OuT


    toomevara wrote: »
    No I dont think you're a fairweather fan, I reckon the sentiment you've expressed is really common among serious Irish rugby fans at the moment. It isnt the defeats or the losses, christ knows you sign up to Irish Rugby thats pretty much your lot, it's the manner of them and the cavalier fashion in which fans are treated. Kinda get the feeling we've all been mugged and I dont bleedin' like it...

    agree completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,812 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    SpAcEd OuT wrote: »
    agree completely.

    another agreement --- Neil Francis called it right saying , saying eddie would outsmart us fools , just go underground , till people forgot -- his sunday Times interview was cringeworthy -- I'm so confident now that he has control appointing his assitants and MANAGER -- the ayatollah o'sullivan shall not fall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,203 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    toomevara wrote: »
    Yeah, 'not playing enough rugby' what utter bollocks. The two form teams in the competition SA and The Pumas played bugger all serious rugby in the run up, or tested themselves against rugby titans such as ahem...Belgium...and they seemed to do rather well thanks very much...

    Actually don't forget Connacht ran SA, albeit mostly second team, close for 60 odd minutes. Thankfully we didn't6 have that mare of a ref from Musgrave park the other night.

    Eddie must have incriminating pics of someone in the IRFU :rolleyes:
    How else could he remain in his job after the world cup?
    As certain writer, er ex rugby player put it, the report must have been written by Phil Collins or Mike Rutherford (not related to John Rutherford AFAIK).
    Does anyone know what was really in the report since IRFU probably sanitised it before published ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭komodosp


    I think the IRFU believed in Eddie, but knew that the WC campaign wasn't going well... No one it'd be next to impossible to extend his contract after the WC, they did it beforehand.

    I think give him another chance, Ireland were playing great last year... Yeah we can moan that we didn't win the Grand Slam, but really that was because of a momentery loss of concentration against France at the end. You can't really blame an entire career for something like that.

    Agreed on the nother out-half point though. As much as people complain about Boss, he did really fight for his position and try to improve on Stringer's f**k ups when he came on in the WC.. We need someone to make O'Gara do that, or to turn things around if he's off form (which happens too often for my liking... And when he plays bad...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    komodosp wrote: »
    I think the IRFU believed in Eddie, but knew that the WC campaign wasn't going well... No one it'd be next to impossible to extend his contract after the WC, they did it beforehand.

    I think give him another chance, Ireland were playing great last year... Yeah we can moan that we didn't win the Grand Slam, but really that was because of a momentery loss of concentration against France at the end. You can't really blame an entire career for something like that.



    We'll giving away a last minute try against italy was also massive **** up. But we arent going to blame an entire career on that.

    Getting walloped by France and Argentina in a World cup, nearly being beaten by Georgia. Basically being in charge of the best Irish squad ever assembled and making a completely ****ing balls of it is something that you can a blame an entire career on imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭komodosp


    I don't think the try by Italy cost us that much... France were all over Scotland and only let up when they knew they had enough of a points difference... As soon as Scotland scored again, France turned up the pressure again and scored the try they needed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Punchbowl


    Easy to say that, they were very nearly held up (WERE help up actaully) and I doubt that was part of the plan. All bets were off with the Italy game, we were gonna keep running and running and had we of scored instead of them in overtime, France would not of caught us regardless....

    Anyway, we should all be getting ebhind the team now for the 6N, it really is showing us up as a huge bunch of fairweather supporters to be moaning so much about having a poor world cup... a hell of a lot of other teams had bad world cups too you know...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭NotWormBoy


    Punchbowl wrote: »
    Easy to say that, they were very nearly held up (WERE help up actaully) and I doubt that was part of the plan. All bets were off with the Italy game, we were gonna keep running and running and had we of scored instead of them in overtime, France would not of caught us regardless....

    But we didnt. And they did. And to be honest, I think they'd have done it even if they had to beat the Scots by 40. They did enough, and thats that. We couldn't.
    Anyway, we should all be getting ebhind the team now for the 6N, it really is showing us up as a huge bunch of fairweather supporters to be moaning so much about having a poor world cup... a hell of a lot of other teams had bad world cups too you know...

    And they're complaining too. Whilst I agree, we should set out sights on the 6N, the World Cup shouldn't be forgotten - not by a long shot. Expecting some gutsy performances in the WC (at least) and then some accountability after the best Irish side ever flops doesn't make one a fairweather supporter.

    If Eddy shows some signs of learning from his mistakes in the 6N, then that'd be great. But if its the same old ****, many people will be very pissed off with the IRFU and O'Sullivan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    The other teams who had useless RWCs fired their coaches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭komodosp


    Easy to say that, they were very nearly held up (WERE help up actaully) and I doubt that was part of the plan.
    But what I mean is the only reason they were caught in that situation was that they were on fire against Scotland scoring try after try until they thought they had done enough, then took their foot off the pedal. As soon as Scotland scored, they were right back on them. I think if we had scored instead of Italy, I think they would have easily scored another try or two in the middle of the match before sitting back anyway.

    Regarding whether they were held up, I don't really believe it mattered, I think France were going to score from the 5m scrum anyway... I mean Scotland weren't just going to kick to touch if they got the ball, just to do us a favour... And neither were France if they were pushed back to try and stop another Scottish score...

    IMHO that 6N was lost in the last few mins against France.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 160 ✭✭chicoben


    Trojan wrote: »
    The other teams who had useless RWCs fired their coaches.

    Backed.


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