Irish national anthem..

arybvtcw0eolkf

Old and outdate and we need to change it, or leave it be its a great song to sing when your drunk?.

I never really gave it much thought until a drunken conversation with some foreign friends when one of them said she didn't think it suits Ireland anymore and should be changed to reflect modern Ireland!.

Its got me thinking.

GhostInTheRuins

What do you propose we change in it?

95% of people don't know it anyway (Irish or english) so does it really matter?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well there's no such people as the Irish anyway, they're really just bastardised english. No reason for them to have their own anthem.

Pigman II

I think we should go back to God Saves the Queen (not the Sex Pistols version) for a while and see how the public dig it.

One thing in it's favour is that we know the words.

dlofnep

Hey look, it's pigman trying to be controversial!

I think our Anthem is just fine as it is.

Dyr

We should work the line "out yonder waits the saxon foe" back into the bit at the end that no-one remembers, just to stick to the shiney new oireland contingent

That or else we declare "old town" our new national anthem. Ola!!

Dave!

Ireland's Call TBH

Pigman II

dlofnep wrote: »

Hey look, it's pigman trying to be controversial!

Dunno what you're on about. Most of what is good in this country is a result of English occupation. If it wasn't for them we'd still be speaking in our backward tongue and considered a peripheral nation that no-one really gives a damn about (like Iceland or Portugal for example).

dlofnep

Ok feck it, I'll humour this debate. Is anyone's national anthem really relavant?

Britain's:

God save our gracious Queen,1
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen:
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us:
God save the Queen.

Babbling about an outdated concept (monarchy) and a non-existant entity (god). Even at that, it's a bit redundant.. How many times does God have to save this supposed "Queen"? Why does she need so much saving? It wouldn't be because she's using up the country's resources instead of giving it to help the homeless and poor now is it?

Britain's new national anthem.

"God please get rid of the Queen and give all those freezing feckers a home".

Or how about the American National Anthem?

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?

At first glance - what on earth are they even babbling on about? At second glance - Land of the free? You mean, land of the patriot act? Hardly current.

And then there is the Russian national anthem.. I know they have one, because I've heard it in Rocky 4. Now I'm not exactly sure what they say but I'm pretty sure it's about Mother Russia being brilliant and crushing her enemies with an iron fist.

So in closing, no national anthem is really 100% relavant but if they were to be, you'd have to update them every 10 years or so.

Pete4779

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

What do you propose we change in it?

95% of people don't know it anyway (Irish or english) so does it really matter?

Why do you say that? The only people I know that can't sing it are people from Dublin.

dlofnep

Pigman II wrote: »

Dunno what you're on about. Most of what is good in this country is a result of English occupation. If it wasn't for them we'd still be speaking in our backward tongue and considered a peripheral nation that no-one really gives a damn about (like Iceland or Portugal for example).

This country was a desperate, miserable country, ruled by an Iron hand, where the native people were treated as third-class peons. It only became a successful country after it escaped the iron grip of Britain, stablized, joined the EU and got it's act together.

There are many other successful countries who've maintained their own native language. English was only really required when we had to emmigrate to England or the US during hard times, such as the potato famine - which may I add was required because our benevolent British rulers refused to offer us any aid during the famine.

Don't kid yourself Pigman and don't even begin to try kid me.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Pete4779 wrote: »

Why do you say that? The only people I know that can't sing it are people from Dublin.

Yup, I usually stand there like a goldfish in a bowl mouthing nothing but fresh air

Pigman II

dlofnep wrote: »

Don't kid yourself Pigman and don't even begin to try kid me.

I'm just giving my opinion. I don't know why you're getting so touchy about it.

Unpossible

I like our national anthem, unfortunately it was never taught to us at school

dlofnep

Pigman II wrote: »

I'm just giving my opinion. I don't know why you're getting so touchy about it.

I'm a touchy-feely kinda guy.

Pigman II

dlofnep wrote: »

I'm a touchy-feely kinda guy.

Do you ever touch yourself?

dlofnep

Pigman II wrote: »

Do you ever touch yourself?

Completely off-topic before the second page. This is vintage AH.

And yes, chronically.

Dudess

dlofnep wrote: »

This country was a desperate, miserable country, ruled by an Iron hand, where the native people were treated as third-class peons.

That pretty much describes Ireland post partition and in the grip of the church, where De Valera wanted to pull a Stalin and pretend Ireland was never ruled by Britain in the first place - re-gaelicisation/de-anglicisation and all that. He was so draconian about this policy it only served to further marginalise Ireland.

It only became a successful country after it escaped the iron grip of Britain, stablized, joined the EU and got it's act together.

That's because there was finally acceptance that Ireland could not be a self-contained, Irish-speaking entity.

They should change it to English, and perhaps changing a few lyrics too. Something about Martians. That would be most excellent.

Dudess

Yeah! Or zombies.

Or or or .. Zombie Martians!

I like where this is going.

Dudess

Aw now that's just being ridiculous...

Pigman II

dlofnep wrote: »

And yes, chronically.

Ever with a thumb up your bum?

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Anyway if God Save the Queen doesn't work for you I think DublinWriter did a version of Candle in the Wind dedicated to Katy French that brought many to tears.

Goodbye Irelands shamrock

Fine. Just Zombies then

... pain in the ass ...

Dudess

All I'm saying is, I don't think a zombie-martian is a scientific possibility.
Let's compromise: how about zombies AND martians?

Sounds like a good compromise ...

Deal!!

This is going to be the greatest national anthem. Ever!

Mweelrea

Pigman stop being a troll

i think we should leave it the way it is
irelands call is a load of s*** TBH
and the war references happen in practically every anthem
I thinks its armenia's anthem (correct me if i'm wrong) but it goes on about violently killing their enemys

Keep Amhrán na bhFiann

Dudess

I don't think he's trolling - he's just not bothered with all that "proud to be Irish, hate the English" stuff. I believe he's right - we have no problem with embracing so much English culture, and I'm not one for nationalism/patriotism. Where you're born is an accident of birth, nothing to be proud of.

Mweelrea

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think he's trolling - he's just not bothered with all that "proud to be Irish, hate the English" stuff. I believe he's right - we have no problem with embracing so much English culture, and I'm not one for nationalism/patriotism. Where you're born is an accident of birth, nothing to be proud of.

i meant the change the anthem to "god save the queen" malarky

Hardly helpful

dlofnep

Dudess wrote: »

I don't think he's trolling - he's just not bothered with all that "proud to be Irish, hate the English" stuff. I believe he's right - we have no problem with embracing so much English culture, and I'm not one for nationalism/patriotism. Where you're born is an accident of birth, nothing to be proud of.

Firstly - nobody said anything about hating the English. Stop trying to strengthen your case by adding inches.

I've no problem with being cool with English people, but to suggest that we use the British National Anthem is disrespectful and was a clear attempt to troll. You're either naive, or just gloating at the cheap pop at Nationalists.. I'd be more inclined to think the latter of the two.

Dennis the Stone

Is there any song about crap transport and banana politics?

Latchy

I love it the way it is , like an old pop song it's part of my chilhood growing up and brings me back to a time in ireland 60s/70s/80s which has more or less gone .

Tabnabs

Is there any song about crap transport and banana politics?

Take your pick;

Jimmy Buffett
Banana Republic

Boomtown Rats
Banana Republic

MagicMarker

Is there anyone here who doesn't know the anthem? As in at all!!?

I don't even know what the first few words are, I also couldn't tell you what the tune is if asked.

Oh well, such is life.....

dlofnep

MagicMarker wrote: »

I don't even know what the first few words are, I also couldn't tell you what the tune is if asked.

Easy!

DOOooooo-do-do-do-dooooooooooooo.... Doooo-dooooo-do-do-dooooo-doooooooo-oooo! Doooooo-doo-dooo..

Latchy

Laaaaaaaaa Laaaaaaaaa Laaaaaaaaa La......La La La La La LA laaaaaaaaaaaaa

MagicMarker

Cheers lads, it's all so clear now:D

No national-anthem has any real relevance anymore. A lot of them were written in times of strife; ours and America's, the French and so on and so forth. For us to come up with a national anthem that has relevance, it would have to involve wealth, global warming and PC:

Ireland, home of the Celtic Tiger,
Global Warming suits us best,
From hot summers to mild winters,
and every season in one day.
Most of us are foreigners,
or tourists and refugees,
Don't worry though,
we wont insult you
because this country is PC mad!

chorus
Ireland, home of the Celtic Tiger,
Global Warming suits us best,
Cocaine is our biggest import.
We secretly hate all foreigners,
but at least we leave the British alone.

Oh Ireland, safest place
against those Zombie hordes.
No bridge from Britain shall be built.
Or tunnel, or anything,
because our government doesn't do whats needed.
But at least we'll be alright,
when the Zombies attack.
Not sure about the Martians,
as that's a different song!
We'll face it when it happens.

chorus

MagicMarker

Deleted User wrote: »

No national-anthem has any real relevance anymore. A lot of them were written in times of strife; ours and America's, the French and so on and so forth. For us to come up with a national anthem that has relevance, it would have to involve wealth, global warming and PC:

Ireland, home of the Celtic Tiger,
Global Warming suits us best,
From hot summers to mild winters,
and every season in one day.
Most of us are foreigners,
or tourists and refugees,
Don't worry though,
we wont insult you
because this country is PC mad!

chorus
Ireland, home of the Celtic Tiger,
Global Warming suits us best,
We secretly hate all foreigners,
but at least we leave the British alone.

Oh Ireland, safest place
against those Zombie hordes.
No bridge from Britain shall be built.

etc. etc.

You left out cocaine. For shame!!

MagicMarker

MagicMarker wrote: »

You left out cocaine. For shame!!

Added into the chorus.

Nature Boy

It's a song that was sung by people involved in our struggle for independence, so it's got historical significance. I think any new song wouldn't have the same significance. What would the new song be about anyway? The celtic tiger, corrupt politicians (well, corrupt everything), loads of foreigners, and Roy Keane?

Mossy Monk

Dudess wrote: »

I believe he's right - we have no problem with embracing so much English culture, and I'm not one for nationalism/patriotism. Where you're born is an accident of birth, nothing to be proud of.

So we should use the anthem of a foreign state?

Earthhorse

I think we should change it to White Lines by Grandmaster Flash.

Or during times where there's a cocaine drought something else by Grandmaster Flash.

Pherekydes

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah! Or zombies.

Come on, this is pure trolling. Ban this poster.


Amhrán na Zombies, FTW.


Opps, brain fart, Amhrán na bhFiann, FTW.