GJP xmas cash race

max_power

Just realised i'm in the top ten of this which is a nice little suprise, is there any way to find out how far behind and ahead i am? might go for an intense last few days to move up the ladder but its not worth it if im miles behind.

Sparky1808

I only found out about this yesterday, obviously on being new to GJP I just stumbled across it on their website and only after 12 days play was 88th

...shame I didn't start earlier, I might have been able to make a dent on the board.

Brilliant idea all the same

califano

Sparky i hope you realise play money games dont count:p

btw i hear they are starting a new one in the new year.

Sparky1808

D'oh!

Great to hear there's one in the new year

dvdfan

Looks like i might take 4th for $750, nice xmas pressie, if only my local had a similar reward plan:)

dvdfan

Just as a suggestion, i think we all have a weekend or a few days every month where we dont get that much poker in due to family commitments, weddings etc, if the competition took that into consideration excluding by say our worst 5 day period i think it would give a better representation of the people that most deserve to be up at the top. For example i probably would have easily took 3rd place but due to several christmas parties i only played 1/2 the amount of hands i normally would this week, not taking anything from the person that overtook me as they probably would have regardless (and if your trying like hard to keep ahead dont worry ive eased off) but we all have 1-2 engagements every 2 months and it can be a bit unfair if you play a large amount of hands and then say have to go to a funeral/wedding/party etc and lose touch

Just my opinion so id like to hear what Shortstack/Dev think?

Then again maybe everyone over a 2 month period has an equal chance of having a wedding/funeral/party ect and it evens itself out but just taught id put the idea out there and maybe it could be put to the customers which is the better option

luckylucky

dvdfan wrote: »

Just as a suggestion, i think we all have a weekend or a few days every month where we dont get that much poker in due to family commitments, weddings etc, if the competition took that into consideration excluding by say our worst 5 day period i think it would give a better representation of the people that most deserve to be up at the top. For example i probably would have easily took 3rd place but due to several christmas parties i only played 1/2 the amount of hands i normally would this week, not taking anything from the person that overtook me as they probably would have regardless (and if your trying like hard to keep ahead dont worry ive eased off) but we all have 1-2 engagements every 2 months and it can be a bit unfair if you play a large amount of hands and then say have to go to a funeral/wedding/party etc and lose touch

Just my opinion so id like to hear what Shortstack/Dev think?

Then again maybe everyone over a 2 month period has an equal chance of having a wedding/funeral/party ect and it evens itself out but just taught id put the idea out there and maybe it could be put to the customers which is the better option

Not a bad idea I suppose but tbh I think as you say there's an even chance of people doing weddings/funerals/parties.

Another idea I think might be to have two seperate cash races, one for small stakes and one for medium/high.

Anyways have enjoyed the cash race but am not as high as I thought I might be, didn't end up playing as much as I thought. Anyways bring on the January one, hopefully will have less distractions then

cooker3

I have permanantly been on $100 since this has started. I am consistant.
I am really lazy when it comes to playing hands. New years resolution is to sort that out

Shortstack

dvdfan wrote: »

Just as a suggestion, i think we all have a weekend or a few days every month where we dont get that much poker in due to family commitments, weddings etc, if the competition took that into consideration excluding by say our worst 5 day period i think it would give a better representation of the people that most deserve to be up at the top. For example i probably would have easily took 3rd place but due to several christmas parties i only played 1/2 the amount of hands i normally would this week, not taking anything from the person that overtook me as they probably would have regardless (and if your trying like hard to keep ahead dont worry ive eased off) but we all have 1-2 engagements every 2 months and it can be a bit unfair if you play a large amount of hands and then say have to go to a funeral/wedding/party etc and lose touch

Just my opinion so id like to hear what Shortstack/Dev think?

Then again maybe everyone over a 2 month period has an equal chance of having a wedding/funeral/party ect and it evens itself out but just taught id put the idea out there and maybe it could be put to the customers which is the better option

This race was run over a 6 week (50 day) period. I am open to suggestions. I could run two $10,000 leagues over twice the length of this one. One for raked hands and one for points. Players would be able to get prizes for both.

Or I could run one league for double the cash over double the length. If I do one league it will be for raked hands only. I am loath to do a sole league for points as the highest points earners already get much bigger bonuses than the rest of the players.

My view on leagues is that overall they should reward the players who put the most time in on the site as the biggest rakers get better rewards through the loyalty scheme.

If anyone has any feedback leave it here or PM/email if you want it confidential.

max_power

I reckon it's good in the format it is ie not a 5 day week, over the time it's run i think everything balances out for people as regards parties or whatever. Shortstack could you clarify how exactly the points are earned for the cash race? Am i right in sayin it doesn't matter the size of the pot or level your playing?

Shortstack

max_power wrote: »

I reckon it's good in the format it is ie not a 5 day week, over the time it's run i think everything balances out for people as regards parties or whatever. Shortstack could you clarify how exactly the points are earned for the cash race? Am i right in sayin it doesn't matter the size of the pot or level your playing?

The current race is based on raked hands. If a pot is raked it counts as 1 hand regardless of the amount of rake taken as long as you were dealt into it.

Each $1 in tournie fees counts as 8 raked hands.

Grafter

I prefer the shorter races and I imagine that they're better for the site too.

Once we get much past the half way point, most of us can see where we are likely to finish and there's not much incentive to crank it up.

For example, I played a few hundred hands yesterday and moved up 1 place. If I don't play for the rest of the promotion, I'll finish in the payout band I'm in now and if I play non-stop I maybe could move up 1 level, but probably not.

So my vote is for shortish (1 month max) races, with as flat a structure as possible. It'd be a greater incentive for midfielders like me, if moving up even one or two places meant a bigger prize, rather than having to move up 10 or more.

I did like the seperate points and hands races previously.

I'd also love to see a proper league table complete with scores, so we could see what we were up against and what it takes to get to the top, but I suppose this is contentious as not everyone would want how much they play to be in the public domain?

StraddleFor6

How about a 4 hour race. Winner takes all.

smoothcall

Go back to the points system, the number of hands is a disadvantage to the sickos who play plo.. Play less hands but pots would generally be bigger..

dvdfan

Personally id prefer shorter races but its only fair that its what the majority wants or what GJP decide is best but either way im very happy and its nice to get something extra especially just before christmas

Sparky1808

I think it's a smashing idea.

Even though i'm a late comer to the league and having a big disadvantage of a month or so to the rest of you playing continously. It looks like I might even scrape into the $25 bracket which is better than a slap in the face.

I didn't even realise that tournament registrations went towards - i.e. $1 tournament rake = 8 hands, which i've just discovered, which is nice to know - as i've been playing cash games mainly instead of sit n go's

It would be nice to see the number of hands your up against and what it takes to beat people -as it will crank the volume up of play in my opinion, if it can't be done - then it's no big deal, but be nice to know what you have to beat.

And a month to a 6 week period is fine in my opinion.

Long may it continue...

luckylucky

Shortstack wrote: »

The current race is based on raked hands. If a pot is raked it counts as 1 hand regardless of the amount of rake taken as long as you were dealt into it.

Each $1 in tournie fees counts as 8 raked hands.

Mike, on your site it reads

http://www.greenjokerpoker.com/xmascash.html wrote:

The league will be based upon raked hands with each $1 in tournament fees worth 1 raked hand.

So is $1 in tournament fees = 1 raked hand or 8?

I might have played more sngs if I had thought it was worth 8 like the Waterford Race, but I gathered it was 1.

Shortstack

luckylucky wrote: »

Mike, on your site it reads



So is $1 in tournament fees = 1 raked hand or 8?

I might have played more sngs if I had thought it was worth 8 like the Waterford Race, but I gathered it was 1.

Apologies. That is a typo. Fixed now but a bit late :eek:

All positions have been worked out at 8 hands per $1 in fees. More proof reading required!

poorbarman

I think its fine the way it is.Would have been further up except for a hard drive crash which turned to my advantage.As shortstack says it gives everyone a fair shot at this if you can grind it out.A month is fine IMO any longer and people lose interest.

TommyGunne

One of the sickos that plays PLO is in the top 3... ie gatesby

max_power

Right i'm gonna try and 8 table on my measly little laptop screen for the rest of the night and see how many hands i can get in. Agree with the thing about plo, maybe give 1.2 points per raked hand at plo? Or another figure that equates better to the hph. I dunno, maybe i'm just being greedy.

Sparky1808

“Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.”

Shortstack

The results are up on the site, http://www.greenjokerpoker.com/xmascash.html

Cash is in your accounts now. Congratulations to all those that won a some extra cash for Xmas!

The New Year race will start on Jan 1st and will be simialr to this one. I have flattend out the payout strcture, 1st and 2nd will earn less but there is more money for all places from 30th up and all places from 1st-30th get different amounts so moving up one place will mean more money. Full details on site next week.

DeadParrot

Cool, I might actually make an effort for that one

luckylucky

Shortstack wrote: »

The results are up on the site, http://www.greenjokerpoker.com/xmascash.html

Cash is in your accounts now. Congratulations to all those that won a some extra cash for Xmas!

The New Year race will start on Jan 1st and will be simialr to this one. I have flattend out the payout strcture, 1st and 2nd will earn less but there is more money for all places from 30th up and all places from 1st-30th get different amounts so moving up one place will mean more money. Full details on site next week.

Sounds good. I think these races add a bit of spice. I think the structure of the last one was fine, no harm in making a slightly different structure each time I think to make it interesting imo, I'd also add my voice to giving omaha players a bit of extra credit, as less hands are played, but more is raked as players see more flops.

Sparky1808

Great, will be looking forward to the New Year's one. I'll be hoping for a good showing in this one.

Well done to everybody who made a few quid in this one!

Shortstack

luckylucky wrote: »

Sounds good. I think these races add a bit of spice. I think the structure of the last one was fine, no harm in making a slightly different structure each time I think to make it interesting imo, I'd also add my voice to giving omaha players a bit of extra credit, as less hands are played, but more is raked as players see more flops.

You will probably find it balances out. You may play less hands overll at Omaha in any given session versus NL Holdem but because pretty much every pot is raked then nearly every hand you play counts in the race. NL Holdem players only get around 2/3rds of their total hands played counting as all hands taken pref-flop do not count.

SuperHans

I'd just like to thank GreenJokerPoker for setting the bar when it comes to rewarding players. What with the cash races, reload bonus and generous cashback programme (and occasional free tourney token), I can't see myself playing anywhere else long term.
And you know what poker players like ........ COLD HARD CASH.

luckylucky

Shortstack wrote: »

You will probably find it balances out. You may play less hands overll at Omaha in any given session versus NL Holdem but because pretty much every pot is raked then nearly every hand you play counts in the race. NL Holdem players only get around 2/3rds of their total hands played counting as all hands taken pref-flop do not count.

The other argument for rewarding Omaha players more would be that it's far easier imo to multi-table hold em than Omaha.

But anyway I take your point, whatever way you do it I suppose won't be ideal for everyone.

Sparky1808

SuperHans wrote: »

I'd just like to thank GreenJokerPoker for setting the bar when it comes to rewarding players. What with the cash races, reload bonus and generous cashback programme (and occasional free tourney token), I can't see myself playing anywhere else long term.
And you know what poker players like ........ COLD HARD CASH.

I can't agree and emphasise this enough.

Well done to all involved with Green Joker Poker!

dvdfan

Sparky1808 wrote: »

I can't agree and emphasise this enough.

Well done to all involved with Green Joker Poker!

Ditto, i wouldnt leave even if there was a better offer out there simply cause the support is 2nd to none

Slash/ED

Absolutly, I just wish I was able to claw my way out of the 50 spot, bah. Started a half a month late and only started 6 tabling recently so next time should be better...