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College Project - Help!!

  • 16-12-2007 9:22pm
    #1
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I'm currently doing a project on investing in an Irish stock and giving reasons and analysing trends and ratios etc.

    I'm looking for some help with my research and am basicly wondering if their is a magical website which can give me all of the following information:
      P/E ratio
      EPS
      PEG
      Dividend Yield
      Price/Book
      Div Cover
      Year Range
      Anual performance Vs Index Performance
      History of stock price
      Charts showing performance of stock over various time frames
      index charts of performance over various time frames

    I'm piecing this together from various sites but can't really get all this info the way I'd like to and also thanks to our leturer she gave some excellent handouts from (out of date) internal Davy research showing most of this all listed together on the one page which is extremely helpful but obviously I cant use as its out of date and am unable to get up to date versions of it.

    Any help would be HUGELY appreciated.

    Thanks a million :)

    (My chosen company is BOI by the way and it's over a medium term of 5 - 7 years so feel free to comment on that if you wish :) my basic points are that over the time frame the index will recover going by trends and that historically price of shares are very low whilst company performance is good in current market conditions main reasons for poor performance of index are mainly due to external factors and a recovering domestic market and stability in U.S. and property market will result in a significant recovery over this time frame...any comments? thank you so much for any help what so ever)


Comments

  • #2
    A Random Walk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭A Random Walk


    Nick wrote: »
    my basic points are that over the time frame the index will recover going by trends and that historically price of shares are very low whilst company performance is good in current market conditions main reasons for poor performance of index are mainly due to external factors and a recovering domestic market and stability in U.S. and property market will result in a significant recovery over this time frame...any comments?
    Yes, I'm scared that you are doing a QFA and will be giving advice in the near future, but that's a different issue I suppose.

    BOI investor relations department should be able to help you quite a bit, in particular they will have copies of previous annual reports which will have most of the information you need. The ISE can give you their index numbers. If you don't know how to calculate these simple ratios from the income statement & balance sheet you should have a textbook which explains how.
    my basic points are that over the time frame the index will recover going by trends
    Trends? Trends? The ISEQ is down over 25% this year, what trend are you basing your conclusion on? Looking at a graph and then plotting a line based on imaginary patterns you think you can see is the laziest form of investing and is sometimes referred to as "technical" (sic) "analysis".
    historically price of shares are very low
    What's that supposed to mean? Do you know how a share price is arrived at or are you just looking at the number?
    whilst company performance is good in current market conditions
    Good relative to what? Why do you think their share price has fallen? Is there something you know that the major international investors who are selling BOI don't know?
    main reasons for poor performance of index
    What index
    main reasons for poor performance of index are mainly due to external factors
    Are you saying Ireland inc. has no problems?
    and a recovering domestic market and stability in U.S. and property market will result in a significant recovery.
    A recovering domestic market in what? Cows? A significant recovery in what? The US grew by about 3% last year, a recovery to what level?
    over this time frame...any comments?
    What time frame?

    My only comment is that you need to read more on sites like bloomberg.com and really get a handle on what is happening in the macroeconomic sense.


  • #3
    [Jackass]
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    wow. take it easy...first year college student here, pretty much only seen anything related to this stuff for the first time in the last 2 months and only started the project today :p

    A Random Walk wrote: »
    Yes, I'm scared that you are doing a QFA and will be giving advice in the near future, but that's a different issue I suppose.

    Yes it is, but i'll let you know if i do.
    BOI investor relations department should be able to help you quite a bit, in particular they will have copies of previous annual reports which will have most of the information you need. The ISE can give you their index numbers. If you don't know how to calculate these simple ratios from the income statement & balance sheet you should have a textbook which explains how.

    Thank you.
    Trends? Trends? The ISEQ is down over 25% this year, what trend are you basing your conclusion on? Looking at a graph and then plotting a line based on imaginary patterns you think you can see is the laziest form of investing and is sometimes referred to as "technical" (sic) "analysis".

    Well the ISEQ is at its lowest point in x amount of years. (If I had the the resources I am looking for off hand I'd give you an exact amount of years..also it's quiet late and not entirely relevant to what I'm looking for at the moment hehe)

    We are in an economic slump due to uncertainty in the market, however it's not a question of IF the market will EVER recover (to the levels of 2006 early 2007), but when...be it 2 years, 10 years or 20...I don't believe over the medium term (5 - 7 years as stated) that share prices will be lower than at present as there have been sudden and unexpected circumstances that have lead to our current position, slowing in the housing market due to uncertainty over stamp duty as an example and also the credit crunch in the U.S. as a result of the non-conforming mortgage financial "crisis" which are both alleviating, but caused a certain panic, particularly in Ireland when it related to our worst fears of this property "crash"...or the trend that equities having out preformed every other asset class over the past 20 years would suggest a recovery at some stage.

    What's that supposed to mean? Do you know how a share price is arrived at or are you just looking at the number?

    hmm...well it means that compared to the share price over recent years, "historically" they have a low p/e and essentially cost less. I'm aware of how share prices are arrived at. I'm not picking random numbers or looking for company's with a share price of 5 cent because that HAS to be a bargain and I can buy more :p
    Good relative to what? Why do you think their share price has fallen? Is there something you know that the major international investors who are selling BOI don't know?

    Well relative to the market, it's out performing the ISEQ and I'm aware of why the price of the stock has fallen but that is not directly linked the the performance of BOI plc singularly but more about market conditions where everyone is taking a hit in the index. (it's a project on a ISEQ listed company)
    What index

    The Iseq index
    Are you saying Ireland inc. has no problems?

    No.
    A recovering domestic market in what? Cows? A significant recovery in what? The US grew by about 3% last year, a recovery to what level?

    Well, I did point out an eventual recovery in the Irish property market and the periodic slump in the US market after the events earlier this year, and I was pointing out over the specified time frame.
    What time frame?

    The 5 - 7 years I mentioned in the beginning
    My only comment is that you need to read more on sites like bloomberg.com and really get a handle on what is happening in the macroeconomic sense.

    Thanks, I will :)

    Anyway, not really looking for a lengthy debate, although I do appreciate your input and I suppose what I'm looking for is a quick ease of reference for the details I mentioned earlier as I will be making several comparisons etc. and it would just help a lot.

    Thanks


  • #4
    failsafe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭failsafe


    Try wikipedia for most of the definitions you need.

    Three websites I always use for research:
    http://www.fool.com - The motley fool. Be sure to check out http://caps.fool.com
    http://finance.google.com - Google finance
    http://finance.yahoo.com (or try .co.uk) - I prefer the look of Google Finance but yahoo often have more detailed financial info


  • #5
    dunkamania
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭dunkamania


    bloomberg c30k a year
    reuters c40k a year:D


  • #6
    Article43
    Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭Article43


    If it is a research project you are doing, then don't forget to use outlining and make sure you argue your points.

    All of this stuff makes no difference to daytraders, as they are speculators, not investors, and only trade for potential quick profits - as in most trades lasting from 5 - 10 seconds to 3-15 minutes, depending on market momentum. Some strats will stay on for hours, depending on markets traded, but all will be closed out before the markets close, so that the daytrader can go home and sleep in peace :)

    http://www.investorwords.com/cgi-bin/searchTerms.cgi?term=PE+Ratio&x=26&y=6


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