Boxing is the premiere combat sport!!

walshb

Quite a good read...
Boxing is still number 1?
Discuss

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=13692&more=1

Nothingcompares

the article is comparing boxing's popularity to the UFC's, not MMA's in general.

goo

The guy who wrote the article probably couldn't have named another mma company.
I think boxing is boring in comparison.

Nothingcompares

Hatton v Mayweather? Great fight? You'd have to be very much a boxing enthusiast or a FMW nut to actually find that fight entertaining. From the first round the outcome was obvious. Yes it did sell a **** load of PPVs and filled out a small stadium, but so what, I don't judge sports based on $$$, if I did wouldn't the NFL or some other silly sport be on top? And what about the under card, how many people that paid for the PPV watched the under card? How many of the seats were full before the main event?

I consider professional boxing overwhelmingly tacky, none of the fans have boxed a round in their life, nobody understands it other than its two guys hitting each other in the head a lot. It still holds some of the chicness it developed under hold legends but that's beginning to fade.

boxing still have the most watched super fights of the year but it's day to day operations go unnoticed by the world at large.

johnathan woss

I like boxing and MMA but prefer boxing so I am slightly biased but the above post is nonsense.

Boxing is far more popular around the world in general, and is more popular than ever in Europe, Africa, the former USSR and China. (edited to add the philipines,etc and Latin America).

If there is a decline in boxing it's mainly in the States.

johnathan woss

Also, to even qualify for the Olympics in boxing (let alone win a medal!) is one of the greatest achievements in amateur sport these days so that must say alot about the health of the sport worldwide.

Fozzy

You're kidding yourself if you think interest in MMA in general comes close to interest in the UFC

The point made in the article of boxing star power vs MMA star power is something that I'd disagree with completely. In boxing you've got your Mayweather's, your De La Hoya's, your Hatton's...I don't think the majority of people who bought either of Mayweather's two PPV fights this year could name many other boxing stars than that

The UFC has done an incredible job in making stars out of their fighters. The article says that the UFC couldn't capitalise on Rampage after he bet Chuck, that's nonsense! Rampage headlined UFC 75, which aired on free tv in the US and got over 5.5 million viewers during Rampage's fight!

I'm not actually sure of the numbers, but how many buys does a usual boxing PPV do? One that doesn't feature Mayweather. I know in 2006 that the UFC made more money from PPVs than boxing did, probably isn't true this year because of Mayweather

The bit about boxing being an ancient tradition and MMA being a short lived trend isn't true either, forms of MMA have been around a long long time

walshb

Fozzy wrote: »

You're kidding yourself if you think interest in MMA in general comes close to interest in the UFC

The point made in the article of boxing star power vs MMA star power is something that I'd disagree with completely. In boxing you've got your Mayweather's, your De La Hoya's, your Hatton's...I don't think the majority of people who bought either of Mayweather's two PPV fights this year could name many other boxing stars than that

The UFC has done an incredible job in making stars out of their fighters. The article says that the UFC couldn't capitalise on Rampage after he bet Chuck, that's nonsense! Rampage headlined UFC 75, which aired on free tv in the US and got over 5.5 million viewers during Rampage's fight!

I'm not actually sure of the numbers, but how many buys does a usual boxing PPV do? One that doesn't feature Mayweather. I know in 2006 that the UFC made more money from PPVs than boxing did, probably isn't true this year because of Mayweather

The bit about boxing being an ancient tradition and MMA being a short lived trend isn't true either, forms of MMA have been around a long long time

Forms of MMA, not MMA....

I agree that the fight last week was a letdown.

Great point made concerning the amateur game which
has gone from strength to strength thru the years and IS
IMO the toughest and most competitive amateur olympic
sport on the planet. How anyone could call top
amateur boxing boring is beyond me....

Fozzy

walshb wrote: »

Forms of MMA, not MMA....

You're not going to tell me that people boxed in a ring wearing 10oz gloves and fought for 12 rounds with three judges back in these ancient times are you?! Forms of boxing have been around for a long time, same as forms of MMA. I just think that MMA has been around longer

JMCD

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I consider professional boxing overwhelmingly tacky, none of the fans have boxed a round in their life, nobody understands it other than its two guys hitting each other in the head a lot. It still holds some of the chicness it developed under hold legends but that's beginning to fade.QUOTE]

With all do respect NC I think the same could apply to MMA and UFC in particular.Some of the guys I work with love UFC but have no real idea of whats going on...to them its just a glorified street fight in a cage and feeds thier need for violenece.


I dont seem to know as to why these childish arguments crop up do at times?
Its like 2 children arguing over whos bike is better or something......MMA and Boxing are 2 Different sports and the world is big enough for both of them.Why cant everyone respect that and just get on with it?

Who cares which one is the biggest or which one makes more money and which is most popular?????.These things swing in roundabouts and now it seems boxing is slightly more popular but a couple of months ago UFC was the best thing since sliced bread.Both are 2 highly skilled and combative sports that should respect each other and everyone should just get on with it.

End of.

walshb

Fozzy wrote: »

You're not going to tell me that people boxed in a ring wearing 10oz gloves and fought for 12 rounds with three judges back in these ancient times are you?! Forms of boxing have been around for a long time, same as forms of MMA. I just think that MMA has been around longer

Look boxing is a little more organised than any forms of MMA you might be
talking about...

If you want to include basic street fighting with MMA, then yes it has been around very very long....

Fozzy

walshb wrote: »

Look boxing is a little more organised than any forms of MMA you might be
talking about...

If you want to include basic street fighting with MMA, then yes it has been around very very long....

I was talking about the likes of pankration, which was a sport in the ancient Olympics, and some type of fighting that others on here might know more about than I do that was around in China around the 10th century BC

dlofnep

big fan of mma and boxing. both will survive, side by side just fine.

Tim_Murphy

Boxing, Pankration (MMA of the day) and wrestling were all part of the ancient olympics. They've all been around in various forms for a long long time.

If you want to include basic street fighting with MMA, then yes it has been around very very long....

What would anybody want to do that? Besides for just stirring sh%t obviously.

I don't see why people are necessarily viewing the rise of MMA as a bad thing for boxing. It's bringing combat sports into the limelight and that can be a good thing for all combats sports.

How anyone could call top
amateur boxing boring is beyond me....

Because a lot (most) fight fans only know quite a limited about about the sports involved, be it boxing or MMA. Most people just want to see a good scrap.

HammerHeadGym

I generally find that when someone haas to go on about how well the're doing and how the competition is [jealous], [a failure] and how they use 'propoganda' (as oppossed to this guy who is obviusly a completely impartial observer) then they are usually trying to fill a void created by there own feelings of inadaqucy. Dana white is just as guilty. SSure there are boring boxing matches but not every MMA fight is thrilla minute stuff either. In fact, Josh coscheck has earned the name 'the sandman' in my house for his abiilty to put everyone in the room asleep within 3 rounds.