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Mocks

  • 15-12-2007 11:42am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭


    What is the going rate for correcting the mocks these days? Half contemplating it...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    What is the going rate for correcting the mocks these days? Half contemplating it...


    Depends on what you are correcting. i've corrected LC papers the last 2 years and it's been about €2 per paper after tax. That's for Ag Science. PM if you want more details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    Depends on what you are correcting. i've corrected LC papers the last 2 years and it's been about €2 per paper after tax. That's for Ag Science. PM if you want more details.
    That's a really brutal rate of pay isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    yep, so it's important to pick a subject where it doesn't take ages to correct each paper. :D Otherwise you'd be tearing your hair out. I suppose the incentive is the more papers you correct the more you earn... pays for a holiday, car, college, whatever. I only correct for one company don't know what the rates are for the other company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    I am thinking of correcting mocks myself this year too. Do you know is it a lower rate for Junior Cert mocks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    I think it is. I've never corrected JC mocks so I don't know for sure, but going on Department correction rates JC is usually less.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭pigeonbutler


    How does one get on the ladder of doing the correcting? I.e. is being involved in teaching neccessary or could say a trainee accountant with an Hons B.Comm have a chance of getting correcting LC accounting or JC Business?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    How does one get on the ladder of doing the correcting? I.e. is being involved in teaching neccessary or could say a trainee accountant with an Hons B.Comm have a chance of getting correcting LC accounting or JC Business?

    Depends on what you want to correct. If it's mocks you want to correct, they are produced and corrected by private companies, nothing to do with the Dept of Education. Dublin Examining Board www.debexams.ie and Examcraft www.examcraft.ie are the two, you can apply online or over the phone with them I think. Check out their websites.

    If it's real exams you want to correct you have to apply to State Exams Commission. You can read about it and download the application form here

    http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=re&sc=r6


    if you are not a qualified teacher, you probably wouldn't have much chance of getting LC papers. Don't even know about JC papers. It is after all a state exam and they want qualified people (with experience of teaching) to correct, but you could have a go at the mocks


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious



    if you are not a qualified teacher, you probably wouldn't have much chance of getting LC papers. Don't even know about JC papers. It is after all a state exam and they want qualified people (with experience of teaching) to correct, but you could have a go at the mocks

    Certain subjects at JC are always looking for correctors.
    It's the sort of work some people find easy enough and do it year after year, others get themselves into a state and only ever do it once. Some subjects have a VERY high turnover of staff.

    It's definitely not worth it for the money, even with the recent increases, (hence the problem they have getting serving teachers to do it) but it's good experience and can lead to other work within the SEC for long-time correctors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭annie19


    how much do u expect 2 correct?
    ye never do a great job neways!
    i dont tink most of ye sud be allowed
    us students wud b as well let our friends correct them
    a better job wud be done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    annie19 wrote: »
    how mush do u expect 2 correct?
    ye never do a great job neways!
    i dont tink most of ye sud be allowed
    us students wud b as well let our friends correct them
    a better job wud be done


    That's extremely cheeky coming from a student who is looking to get through their mocks with hints from forums. Obviously your friends know more about the leaving cert courses you are sitting than the teachers who teach them.

    I correct for the Department every year and spend two whole days going through a marking scheme at a conference nit picking over every possible answer to every possible question before i'm allowed near a paper.

    I correct mocks to the same standard that I correct LC papers. Companies that produce mock papers employ correctors. It's up to them to find out who they employ and what their qualifications are. I was sent mock papers to be recorrected in my subject last year because the person who originally corrected them did a poor job on them. I have never had mock papers returned to me for correction. So perhaps annie19 you might not tar us all with the same brush when you get your mocks back this year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭annie19


    u frm roscommon? north r south


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    annie19 wrote: »
    u frm roscommon? north r south

    neither, i'm from limerick, i live in roscommon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    annie19 wrote: »
    how much do u expect 2 correct?
    ye never do a great job neways!
    i dont tink most of ye sud be allowed
    us students wud b as well let our friends correct them
    a better job wud be done

    Is that because your friends would not mind if you left out letters, punctuation and capital letters?

    Fair play though, you and your friends will get full marks if you know so much about every subject and the marking schemes. Good luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    Exam craft are paying €2.80 for Junior Cert papers and €3.00 for Leaving Cert. Think it's 20 cent more higher level. I'm doing it this year for the first time..already got the marking scheme. Hoping to hear something from the Dept of Ed about correcting the actual exams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭Trotter


    annie19 wrote: »
    how much do u expect 2 correct?
    ye never do a great job neways!
    i dont tink most of ye sud be allowed
    us students wud b as well let our friends correct them
    a better job wud be done



    Annie19 banned from Teaching & Lecturing.

    Here are the relevant sections from the charter. Take your pick.


    2) This will not become a forum for writing abusive statements about
    teachers or lecturers. Breaking this rule will lead to an immediate ban. I will
    be very strict on this. Fair and balanced criticism and discussion is not a
    problem. However, be aware that you risk a ban if the line is crossed or if
    names are used to personally criticise a person or persons! All are
    welcome to post on this forum, especially students who have constructive
    comments to make.

    3) Disrespectful posts, trolling, flaming, spamming, and aggressive behaviour
    will lead to a warning and/or a ban.




    To the other respectful members of the forum, feel free to use the report function for this kind of thing. The moderators can deal with it faster. Its better to do this than to respond at all to "provocation".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    ateam wrote: »
    Exam craft are paying €2.80 for Junior Cert papers and €3.00 for Leaving Cert. Think it's 20 cent more higher level. I'm doing it this year for the first time..already got the marking scheme. Hoping to hear something from the Dept of Ed about correcting the actual exams.


    What subject is that in?

    I got my letter from Dept before Christmas but that's because I correct for them every year, I don't think new applicants hear until around April or May when all the other correctors have been confirmed I imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    What subject is that in?

    I got my letter from Dept before Christmas but that's because I correct for them every year, I don't think new applicants hear until around April or May when all the other correctors have been confirmed I imagine.


    I sent my form in after the closing date so i don't expect much, I want to correct history - I wonder if there's a huge demand for history markers..if so I might get the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    ateam wrote: »
    I sent my form in after the closing date so i don't expect much, I want to correct history - I wonder if there's a huge demand for history markers..if so I might get the job.

    Dunno. There tends to be a higher turnover rate in subjects where a lot of reading is required (English, Irish, History), but the rate paid per script is also better. And rightly so. If you don't get appointed as a corrector they normally put you on the reserve list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    Dunno. There tends to be a higher turnover rate in subjects where a lot of reading is required (English, Irish, History), but the rate paid per script is also better. And rightly so. If you don't get appointed as a corrector they normally put you on the reserve list.


    What is the reserve list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    ateam wrote: »
    What is the reserve list?

    It's a list of teachers who applied to correct but were not appointed as correctors, usually because there were too many applicants. If a teacher is appointed and pulls out before the conference, the Dept ring one of the reserves and offer them the job, that's how I got started originally. Also there would usually be a couple of reserves called to go to the conference for some of the larger subjects (especially those that are compulsory at JC and LC, or have a large uptake) so if a teacher doesn't turn up to the conference, the reserve is given their allocation of exam papers. I have also seen that happen on a few occasions


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    It's a list of teachers who applied to correct but were not appointed as correctors, usually because there were too many applicants. If a teacher is appointed and pulls out before the conference, the Dept ring one of the reserves and offer them the job, that's how I got started originally. Also there would usually be a couple of reserves called to go to the conference for some of the larger subjects (especially those that are compulsory at JC and LC, or have a large uptake) so if a teacher doesn't turn up to the conference, the reserve is given their allocation of exam papers. I have also seen that happen on a few occasions


    Well history is compulsory for the Junior so let's hope there's a big demand for correctors. Thanks.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,315 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    ateam wrote: »
    Well history is compulsory for the Junior so let's hope there's a big demand for correctors. Thanks.

    There usually is, though it's not correct to say it's compulsory. Schools can also fulfil the 'History/Geography' requirement by taking Environmental and Social Studies, a different exam altogether.

    Traditionally there has always been a demand for History correctors, particularly at Higher Level. You will be so sick of 'learned off' answers about Michelangelo and his broken nose...be afraid, be very afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    spurious wrote: »
    There usually is, though it's not correct to say it's compulsory. Schools can also fulfil the 'History/Geography' requirement by taking Environmental and Social Studies, a different exam altogether.


    yes, and it's not compulsory in vocational schools, but there would still be a large number taking history for JC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 986 ✭✭✭ateam


    Has anyone got any papers yet?


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