port road tragedy

beaushalloe

local man killed off a moterbike on the port road at 7.30 tonight, awful tragedy so close to christmas.
may he rest in peace.

junkster12345

**** man, thats sucks

Sully

Rip

Aquos76

2 others taken to hospital. Both were occupants of the car which was in collision with the motorcycle.

RIP

Cabaal

Apparently he was speeding and hit the car as it was coming out of a junction, car was turned over so he must have hit it at some speed

lassykk

may he rest in peace. my thoughts are with his family and friends and those of the injured people in car.

he was in his late 20's and from the locality.

the young man in the car was in his early 20's and lived very near the accident. i'm not sure who the other occupant of the car was.

i have heard that the young man driving the other car has a punctured lung but I'm not 100% sure of that. Does anyone know for definite how the two people who survived are doing?

Does anyone know exactly what happened either? I've got mixed information on it? Was the motorbike travelling down the port road (towards the port) or towards the N25? Did the car pull out into his path?

that's two motorbike tragedies in slieverue in the last few years involving young people.

trishw78

I heard it happened up at the Creamery Junction. I also heard that when the biker hit the car and flipped it. I know the guy's sister. All I've heard about the man and teenage girl was that they were in a serious condition out in Ardkeen. If it is the Cramery Junction that junction is leathal

lassykk

I heard it happened up at the Creamery Junction. I also heard that when the biker hit the car and flipped it. I know the guy's sister. All I've heard about the man and teenage girl was that they were in a serious condition out in Ardkeen. If it is the Cramery Junction that junction is leathal

i'm almost sure it happened on the port road as that's where the ambulances were going but I could be wrong.

I assume by creamery junction you mean coming out of eurofeuls onto the N25. It definitly wasn't there as I was on the road around that time and saw nothing.

i know the guy on the bike from seeing him on the bike around Lyons. Know his brothers to see them.

The chap in the car was in school with me but is a couple of years younger than me. Don't know who the girl in the car was.

trishw78

no point in arguing about where it did or didn't happen. The main thing is that he lost his life and leaves behind his family and friends to grieve.

OT He was in my brother's year in the Tech in Slieverue.

lassykk

oh no i wasn't tryin 2 argue at all. i was only tryin 2 make sense of how it happened in my head is all

he would prob have been in my brothers year in the tech too or maybe a year behind him

Aquos76

It happened at the last junction on the left at the bottom of the port road. Yes the car flipped over and ended up on its side. There were 2 occupents in the car, a male and female. The chap on the motorbike died at the scene.

dazftw

Whats the name of the guy in the car? Even if you could give me his second name..

Sully

Out of respect of the family and relatives, if your giving any name please do it via PM. Until such time the press give the name.. Cheers.

I assume the bike was going fairly fast to flip it, but how did the car not spot the bike in the first place? Slightly confused..

dazftw

Yea if anyone knows please let me know! I was talking to a couple of my friends tonight and they knew the guy on the bike, they also said they think the guy in the car is one of our friends..

AdMMM

Sully wrote: »

Out of respect of the family and relatives, if your giving any name please do it via PM. Until such time the press give the name.. Cheers.

I assume the bike was going fairly fast to flip it, but how did the car not spot the bike in the first place? Slightly confused..

My friend was driving not far behind the motorbike at the moment of impact. She said that he must have overtaken her at around 140kph and then a few seconds later the car pulled out onto the main road from a side access road. I don't need to say what happened after that.

Bards

Extract from http://www.independent.ie/national-news/rushhour--horror-as-two-killed-in-headon-collision-1248205.html
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Meanwhile, a 27-year-old motorcyclist who was killed instantly in Co Kilkenny on Thursday night has been named locally as Kenneth Scannell of Curraghmore, near Slieverue.

Two teenagers were also injured after his motorcycle slammed into a car a high speed.

Mr Scannell died when his motorbike ploughed into the car at Gurteen, Slieverue on Thursday at about 7.20pm. Paramedics and gardai rushed to the accident, but the man was pronounced dead at the scene.

The two occupants of the car, one male and one female, who were both in their teens, were seriously injured.

They were taken by ambulance to Waterford Regional Hospital. It is understood that the young woman was released from hospital yesterday, while the man was said to be "recovering".

It is believed that Mr Scannell's powerful 1,000cc motorbike collided with the car as it was pulling out of a side road on to the Port Road.

Gardai in Waterford are asking anyone with information to contact them on 051 3053000.

The latest fatalities bring the number of people killed on Irish roads so far this year to 322.

Sully

A common road for speeding, but such a bad time to happen in the year Really sad

trishw78

on my way home last night I decided i'd go that way. there were alot of flowers at/near the scene, very sad. i'm surprised that they (the gardi) didn't ask the travelling community as they've set up camp just up the road from there. and when i say set up I mean set up camp. but that's a different topic

Sully

trishw78 wrote: »

on my way home last night I decided i'd that way there were alot of flowers at/near the scene, very sad. i'm surprised that they didn't ask the travelling community as they've set up camp just up the road from there. and when i say set up I mean set up camp. but that's a different topic

Travellers are there a while.. and much further up to.

Freddie59

trishw78 wrote: »

on my way home last night I decided i'd that way there were alot of flowers at/near the scene, very sad. i'm surprised that they didn't ask the travelling community as they've set up camp just up the road from there. and when i say set up I mean set up camp. but that's a different topic

You mean they're illegaly camped?

trishw78

They're not that far from the junction, they would have heard something.

Yeap, and there's a garda not living that far away form them either.

floyd333

RIP Kenny. You were one nice young fella.

lassykk

I assume the bike was going fairly fast to flip it, but how did the car not spot the bike in the first place? Slightly confused..

im confused by this myself... the lights on an R1 are pretty good so i don't understand how he didn't see him... Pulling out from Gorteens junction there's a good straight stretch either side of the junction with good visibility so even if Kenneth was moving fast I would assume he would still be seen easily.

I'm not trying to apportion blame just trying to understand how the tragedy occured

Sully

Was down there yesterday, the speed limit has dropped to 80km/hr and even 50km/hr in places. Is that since or before the accident?

Judging by the flowers I assume he was leaving the port back towards Waterford which to me seems the car pulled out of the junction to quickly and nobody had time to stop to prevent an accident? Again, just trying to figure out how it happened on such a decent stretch of road.

It happened to a lad I know from college on the new ross road - driving along probably fairly fast on his bike when a car pulled out from a junction. Luckily he wasnt killed and got away with minor injuries. However in that case, it was the lad in the cars fault for pulling out to quick / early - but he couldnt see due to the sun being in his eyes. Happens to the best of us I suppose

lassykk

Was down there yesterday, the speed limit has dropped to 80km/hr and even 50km/hr in places. Is that since or before the accident?

No these speed limits have been in place for a while now. I believe they are something to do with the new bypass. Definitly nothing to do with the accident

It happened to a lad I know from college on the new ross road - driving along probably fairly fast on his bike when a car pulled out from a junction. Luckily he wasnt killed and got away with minor injuries. However in that case, it was the lad in the cars fault for pulling out to quick / early - but he couldnt see due to the sun being in his eyes. Happens to the best of us I suppose

Its a worrying comment that you think it happens to the best of us... the sun in your eyes is no excuse for pulling out blindly onto a road and wipe out someone on a motorbike

Aquos76

Sully wrote: »

Judging by the flowers I assume he was leaving the port back towards Waterford which to me seems the car pulled out of the junction to quickly and nobody had time to stop to prevent an accident? Again, just trying to figure out how it happened on such a decent stretch of road.

He was heading down towards the port at high speed. He overtook a pal of mine further back up the road, and he heard the crash before he got down to that part of the road,

Sully

lassykk wrote: »

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I meant its very common to be blinded on the road, and pull out thinking its okay. It happens a lot, but we dont hear about it as its never anything serious.

Saying that, if you cant see your not supposed to go. How many of us listen?

Sully

Aquos76 wrote: »

He was heading down towards the port at high speed. He overtook a pal of mine further back up the road, and he heard the crash before he got down to that part of the road,

The flowers are on the opposite side of the road though..

Aquos76

Sully wrote: »

The flowers are on the opposite side of the road though..

Dont want to sound bad though, but thats where he ended up

AdMMM

Speed was a huge factor in him being unable to react in time. Also, as he was wearing a helmet, he had a restricted field of vision meaning he saw the car later than he would if he was driving a car.

Sully

Aquos76 wrote: »

Dont want to sound bad though, but thats where he ended up

Fair point.

maxs

Cabaal wrote: »

Apparently he was speeding and hit the car as it was coming out of a junction, car was turned over so he must have hit it at some speed

Just to let you know kenny was coming home from a long days work. when the car in front was turning left.kenny was going down to next left but never made it because the car pulled out and it all happen to fast for even kenny to brake or advoide the car. people should get fact right before writting them on internet. at end of day he should be still here with us.

maxs

|.Murderer.| wrote: »

My friend was driving not far behind the motorbike at the moment of impact. She said that he must have overtaken her at around 140kph and then a few seconds later the car pulled out onto the main road from a side access road. I don't need to say what happened after that.

Ok your friend said she was behind him and he was going 140kph. WHAT WAS SHE DOING THEN IN SPEED. Yea should get your fact right first. what do yea think if there familys read these messages. they have been true enough. They lost a son,brother,couisn and friend to many people. He got the biggest send off last sunday over 200 hundred bikes in respect of him. Just be carefully what yea say it can hurt many people

JohnC.

maxs wrote: »

Ok your friend said she was behind him and he was going 140kph. WHAT WAS SHE DOING THEN IN SPEED. Yea should get your fact right first.

Re-read the original post. She was behind the bike because it had overtaken her moments before.

Sully

maxs wrote: »

Just to let you know kenny was coming home from a long days work. when the car in front was turning left.kenny was going down to next left but never made it because the car pulled out and it all happen to fast for even kenny to brake or advoide the car. people should get fact right before writting them on internet. at end of day he should be still here with us.

Does it matter where he was coming from? The speed limit on that road is 50km/hr and witnesses say he was driving at speed. To overtake, he must have been breaking the speed limit. Hence, not being able to stop.

Saying that, people still gave there condolences and were just stating how it happened. You summed up everything that was said - apart from speed.

Please, don't come on here shouting the odds. I don't mind someone offering a counter claim, but have some respect.

maxs wrote: »

Ok your friend said she was behind him and he was going 140kph. WHAT WAS SHE DOING THEN IN SPEED. Yea should get your fact right first. what do yea think if there familys read these messages. they have been true enough. They lost a son,brother,couisn and friend to many people. He got the biggest send off last sunday over 200 hundred bikes in respect of him. Just be carefully what yea say it can hurt many people

As you said "get your facts right". The OP did NOT say that. Re-read the post, and correct yourself.

I (amongst the posters here) have deepest sympathies for friends and family, and its always great to see a nice crowd at a funeral - big or small though, it doesn't make much of a difference. I'm offended that your suggesting otherwise.

AdMMM

I'm not certain of the exact speed she was going, but she wouldn't have been speeding. She was the very first person on the scene, so I'm going to stand by whatever she says.

I really don't want to debate or argue about something as insignificant as this because at the end of the day, people have lost someone very dear to them and nothing's going to change that