Led Zep clip from last night...

Rockee

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=a8v_Rqi4B-E



What do ya think?? Obviously its tuned down a little but its great to see them struttin' their stuff again.

gucci

actually more impressive than i thought it would be.

i have a thing against bands who do the comeback thing for cash but this is led zep who have shaped music so much, they deserve to show their music has stood the test of time. it looks like they sounded good (if that makes sense )

Fad

tbh i thought it was awful, maybe the rest of the set was better

Rockee

gucci wrote: »

it looks like they sounded good (if that makes sense )

Haha!! Yep I getcha. No doubt over the coming days there will be more clips added onto Youtube and we can get a better idea. I also hear last nights gig is coming out on DVD. If they tour.....Slane(cough cough) :eek::p

damonjewel

sounds great! much better than their liveaid show!

Rockee

I know its totally off topic but gucci...your sig is fantastic! :P Anyway...back on topic!!

gucci

Rockee wrote: »

I know its totally off topic but gucci...your sig is fantastic! :P Anyway...back on topic!!

thanks, i wasnt trying to be philosophical or anything i was just frustrated with alot of things one morning when i typed it in!

nyarlothothep

good performance from what I could hear, would be interesting to see if page has brushed up on his guitar skills as hes gotten very out of practice in recent years.

Rockee

nyarlothothep wrote: »

good performance from what I could hear, would be interesting to see if page has brushed up on his guitar skills as hes gotten very out of practice in recent years.

True, the last thing of note(if 'of note' is the right thing to say) I recall him doing is 'Come With Me' with Puff Daddy. It was a reworking of Kashmir for the Godzilla soundtrack.

flogen

Rockee wrote: »

Haha!! Yep I getcha. No doubt over the coming days there will be more clips added onto Youtube and we can get a better idea. I also hear last nights gig is coming out on DVD. If they tour.....Slane(cough cough) :eek::p

I think they're going to do plenty more gigs... if they do come to Ireland I hope to the FSM that they play a proper venue (maybe the new Point will be finished in time for their world tour?!)

Rockee

flogen wrote: »

I think they're going to do plenty more gigs... if they do come to Ireland I hope to the FSM that they play a proper venue (maybe the new Point will be finished in time for their world tour?!)

Yeah, the new Point would be great but wouldnt it be a little too small for the likes of Led Zep? Obviously they could get a few nights in there but I think somewhere slightly larger in the one go would be great. Ive never been to the indoor RDS but I hear its not the may west. Croker? Slane?

Soembody please stop me, Im getting way ahead of myself here.

flogen

Rockee wrote: »

Yeah, the new Point would be great but wouldnt it be a little too small for the likes of Led Zep? Obviously they could get a few nights in there but I think somewhere slightly larger in the one go would be great. Ive never been to the indoor RDS but I hear its not the may west. Croker? Slane?

Soembody please stop me, Im getting way ahead of myself here.

I don't think any venue would be big enough - they'd probably sell out a few nights in Croker or Slane even.

What's the new point going to be, 15k or something?

Maybe they could set up residency there for a few months, give everyone a chance to see them play

Stereomaniac

Slane Castle would be the dieal venue for Led Zeppelin, not sound-wise or anything, just because it's the closest we have to a mythological venue like Knebworth or something here.

Karl Hungus

Not all that impressed with the video I'm afraid, but I will wait untill I hear more.

Stereomaniac

I'm watching Since I've Been Loving You now and to be honest, faded, whatever, it's still them.

jimi_t

They should have stayed retired tbh. When any half-assed tribute band could give you a run for your money, you know its time to stay out of the game.

leninbenjamin

i wish i was there... watching Good Times bad times recorded from a phone... **** quality but it's still £ucking class! far better than the BLack dog excerpt...

galwayrush

the clip or any other clips will not do the show any justice, i have never experienced anything as intense or as enjoyable as the concert last night.
I am stuck for words to describe it, :cool:
I have seen live Zep shows on DVD, but the Live Experience is totally different, as any Veteran of Previous Led Zeppelin shows i met in London will testify.I will never forget this one and i don't expect any other concert to beat it.:cool:

flogen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFS4RZEuPVg

Recording of Stairway... surprised they played that one :rolleyes:

Just listening to it now so not sure if it's any good (sound quality seems OK going by the beginning)

Mr. CooL ICE

Wasn't too impressed with those two videos, but in fairness, Black Dog never really did it for me when I watch their live DVDs. Always seemed like one of their more loosely played songs. Stairway didn't sound great, but that was probably down to the audio quality...

But this changed my mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZxukPZ0pjA

They still rock!

21stone

i was at the gig , special thanks to a great mate in sony / bmg for the ticket

sitting 2 rows behind dave grohl

you'd wanna see how many rockers there was there

pure class and theres talk of them doing a slane gig next year

Rustar

jimi_t wrote:

They should have stayed retired tbh. When any half-assed tribute band could give you a run for your money, you know its time to stay out of the game.

Like the Conchords saying that there's a comedic-folk cover band outdoing them on the charts with their own songs.

MoominPapa

Going by the clips, meh although Kashmir :cool:, but going by what people who were there are saying it seems fantastic. I cannot find anything definite about a tour at all, anybody got something beyond speculation?

Alter-Ego

MoominPapa wrote: »

Going by the clips, meh although Kashmir :cool:, but going by what people who were there are saying it seems fantastic. I cannot find anything definite about a tour at all, anybody got something beyond speculation?

Mostly speculation at the moment i think.

That kashmir clip is gold.

big b

hmmmm

seems like Warner asked Youtube to take down all the O2 clips

link

although I just played some..........maybe there was pro-shot footage on there, and that was what they objected to.

Little doubt a DVD will be out next year. Heard from one guy "in the business" that they're looking at a 3-night stint at Madison Square Gardens next summer. Bound to be loads of speculation & rumour, personally I reckon if it happens at all, it'll be 1 UK gig - possibly Knebworth - possibly 1 or 2 more across Europe, and a small selection of shows in the States.

Be happy to be proved wrong, though

nij

Kashmir: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3zm5S7uG8

Full of win IMHO.

Hail Zep!

cornbb

The Black Dog clip above sounds brutal, absolutely awful. Plant is absolutely out of tune and the rest of the band have toned everything down far too much. Then again thats only a 30 second clip, maybe the rest of the show was mindblowing. But I suspect they might have dumbed/toned everything down for the benefit of the baby boomer audience. Doesn't really matter, I will always have infinite respect for LZ. I suspect they won't do a tour, which would be a good thing for everyone. They will never recreate the glory days, best not spoil the memories.

Edit: just watched the Kashmir clip and it sounds far better than Black Dog. The band always said that song brought together everything that is Led Zeppelin and apparently its Plant's own favourite Zeppelin song, I guess that shows in the performance.

ThousandLeaves

Have to wait and see, but I think it's all down to Plant's voice. He can't really do the screaming as well as he used to but his voice otherwise is still in great nick and suits the lower-key, more melodic stuff like Kashmir. His more recent solo stuff is geared towards that and sounds great because of it.

MoominPapa

TOUR Confirmed!!! :eek:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7143789.stm
Just not the one we want:mad:, Plant & Krauss have confirmed European dates in May followed by a US tour so thats much of the summer out, so that means no LZ tour in 2008 and probably puts an end to it completely

cornbb

I'd prefer not to see a tour. It would be one of those tours so massively popular that the promoters could afford to price the tickets so highly that only affluent older people could afford them. I think LZ would look pathetic playing tunes to baby boomers paying extortionate fees so they can recapture part of their youth. I think the band members should leave their legend intact and continue on their individual artistic ventures, there is far more integrity now in what Plant is doing with Krauss then what he would be doing if the band were to reform on a world tour.

BBC News article wrote:

Fans on Led Zeppelin's official website expressed their disappointment at the news.

"Oh dear - no Led Zep tour in 2008," wrote one, while others likened Krauss to a Yoko Ono-style figure for keeping the band apart.

Christ, thats just ridiculous.

Rockee

cornbb...I notice youve mentioned Led Zeppelin playing to 'babyboomers' twice. They wouldnt be playing exclusively to 'babyboomers' as you call them, either way whats the harm??

cornbb

I'm just talking about the demographic that they would be likely to play to, given the probable cost of tickets if they were to tour again, i.e. those in their 40s or 50s or older. I've no issue with that except for the fact that I think they would change the way they play to suit this crowd. They just wouldn't be the same. I think it would detract from their legendary status. I dunno. Maybe its shallow or narrow-minded of me but it wouldn't seem right for Led Zeppelin, if you know what I mean. In 20 years time I'd still like to remember them as god-like legends of the 70s, not as an old and incomplete supergroup appearing to cash in.

MoominPapa

cornbb wrote: »

I'm just talking about the demographic that they would be likely to play to, given the probable cost of tickets if they were to tour again, i.e. those in their 40s or 50s or older. I've no issue with that except for the fact that I think they would change the way they play to suit this crowd. They just wouldn't be the same. I think it would detract from their legendary status. I dunno. Maybe its shallow or narrow-minded of me but it wouldn't seem right for Led Zeppelin, if you know what I mean. In 20 years time I'd still like to remember them as god-like legends of the 70s, not as an old and incomplete supergroup appearing to cash in.

I think the point about demographics is key. Page has spent the best part of 30 years insuring the legend stays intact so if they are to tour they have to find a way of getting to the kids. The codgers(sorry galwayrush:p) have had they're show (and all of the 70s) and if they tour charging 160 quid (or whatever it was) then the image will be tarnished forever. I don't know if there is a solution to this in this day and age, promoters are jacking themselves off as we speak dreaming of all the spons them can cream in on this one, so the band will have put a lot of work in to make sure it doesn't play into the promoters bank accounts and who can say if they are bothered. Plant certainly looks like he has better things to do. Unless the entire band is 100% behind it it won't happen. Page and Bonham are probably totally up for it, JPJ - haven't a clue and Plant - don't think so. But if they are and it isn't priced towards the more mature end of the market then giving younger generations a chance to see them live, even if they cannot recapture their peak, and lets face it they were well past that by 1980 anyway, would be fantastic and then I hope they go for it

nij

Do we really need more of this (pretty baseless) cynical, ageist bull crap? I'm 24 and I'd pay €160 to see them. Why? Because I love Zep and they f*ckin' rock, and not a single 'modern', 'up-to-date', 'cool' act of today does it for me. Not one.

There's nothing but indie-crap 'singer-songwriters' and teenybopper bubblegum zombies around these days. Of course, I'm talking about if you want to see a BIG show in a big venue with all the excitement. I'm into metal, hard rock and the like, and you have to look away from the mainstream in order to find decent music.

Sorry if that sounds cliche, but I think it's true.

Jigsaw

You sir speak sense. I would pay good money to see a good band, which Led Zeppelin are. Previous posts on this thread about them being old codgers etc are beneath ridicule. People liking to post a bull**** opinion to appear different and controversial. You all know who you are. You are some fellas. Run along now and buy your tickets to the next Kooks gig - fools.

cornbb

MoominPapa wrote: »

I think the point about demographics is key. Page has spent the best part of 30 years insuring the legend stays intact so if they are to tour they have to find a way of getting to the kids. The codgers(sorry galwayrush:p) have had they're show (and all of the 70s) and if they tour charging 160 quid (or whatever it was) then the image will be tarnished forever. I don't know if there is a solution to this in this day and age, promoters are jacking themselves off as we speak dreaming of all the spons them can cream in on this one, so the band will have put a lot of work in to make sure it doesn't play into the promoters bank accounts and who can say if they are bothered. Plant certainly looks like he has better things to do. Unless the entire band is 100% behind it it won't happen. Page and Bonham are probably totally up for it, JPJ - haven't a clue and Plant - don't think so. But if they are and it isn't priced towards the more mature end of the market then giving younger generations a chance to see them live, even if they cannot recapture their peak, and lets face it they were well past that by 1980 anyway, would be fantastic and then I hope they go for it

Excellent post

nij wrote: »

Do we really need more of this (pretty baseless) cynical, ageist bull crap? I'm 24 and I'd pay €160 to see them. Why? Because I love Zep and they f*ckin' rock, and not a single 'modern', 'up-to-date', 'cool' act of today does it for me. Not one.

Its not ageism, its just the fact that promoters of a new LZ tour would be likely to price the tickets to an older crowd and therefore the music would be pitched to suit them too - it wouldn't be the same. I'm 25, I've a lot of friends who would pay serious prices for tickets and I'd pay higher than average prices myself. But the tickets would be priced as high as the promoters know they could price them while ensuring every show sells out, which would be very high indeed... I'd love the gig, how could anyone not, but I'd be bitter that I would be on the verge of being pushed to the edge of the market and being wallet-raped for a ticket. I'd pay a higher than average price to see the band, but not extortionate prices.

There's nothing but indie-crap 'singer-songwriters' and teenybopper bubblegum zombies around these days. Of course, I'm talking about if you want to see a BIG show in a big venue with all the excitement. I'm into metal, hard rock and the like, and you have to look away from the mainstream in order to find decent music.

Sorry if that sounds cliche, but I think it's true.

Thats simply not true, although indie/pop music rarely float my boat and I think Led Zeppelin are one of the greatest musical acts of all time they are a lot more "mainstream" than an awful lot of the quality music out there today. Everyone knows Led Zeppelin, how is that not mainstream? Not that being "mainstream" matters. Personally I'm not such a fan of huge shows, all the best gigs I've been to have had crowds of < 1000 people. There's sh*tloads of great new music out there, much of it being played at tiny venues.

Jigsaw wrote: »

You sir speak sense. I would pay good money to see a good band, which Led Zeppelin are. Previous posts on this thread about them being old codgers etc are beneath ridicule. People liking to post a bull**** opinion to appear different and controversial. You all know who you are. You are some fellas. Run along now and buy your tickets to the next Kooks gig - fools.

Lol. First of all, MoominPapa's codgers reference was referring to the crowd, not the band. No-one here has anything but massive respect for LZ, regardless of their age, my gripe is with the promoters. Try reading the thread properly before replying.

Secondly, the insinuation that I like the Kooks is a personal insult. The fact that you and so many other people would pay ridiculous money to see Led Zeppelin is the very reason I think that their image, reputation, integrity, whatever, would be tarnished beyond repair. Would you like future generations to remember the band as the legends they are regarded as now, or as perpetual money grubbers like The Eagles or Paul McCartney? Do you think you are special because you like Led Zeppelin, or that paying 200, 300 euros for a ticket to one of their shows would make you a bigger and better fan? Grow the f*ck up.

MoominPapa

cornbb ftw:D

Jigsaw wrote: »

People liking to post a bull**** opinion to appear different and controversial.

Yeah Rock and Metal and boards in general would be soooo much better if everyone agreed with each other all the time and there was never any controversy :rolleyes:

nij wrote: »

Do we really need more of this (pretty baseless) cynical, ageist bull crap? I'm 24 and I'd pay €160 to see them.

I've got a young family and I would love to bring the lot of us to see Zeppelin. If they charge 60 squllion quids a pop I won't be able to and will resent them forever, this may not be a concern to you but it is to me

nij

Thats simply not true, although indie/pop music rarely float my boat and I think Led Zeppelin are one of the greatest musical acts of all time they are a lot more "mainstream" than an awful lot of the quality music out there today. Everyone knows Led Zeppelin, how is that not mainstream? Not that being "mainstream" matters. Personally I'm not such a fan of huge shows, all the best gigs I've been to have had crowds of < 1000 people. There's sh*tloads of great new music out there, much of it being played at tiny venues.

Of course they're not mainstream - when was the last time they played together? How many teens on the street would know who the heck they are? They WERE mainstream.

As for prices, well, at least if you pay €160 you know that there won't be anyone turning up just to throw beer cups at them and cause trouble. LOL. You say that a high ticket price would mean only one slice of society gets to see them - so what? Do I care about the fact that some people can't afford it? No. The fact is that there ARE people who will pay €160.

As for damaging their legendary reputation... whatever man. It's no secret that music is a business. All I know is that if LZ are playing, I'll be there, end of.

cornbb

nij wrote: »

Of course they're not mainstream - when was the last time they played together? How many teens on the street would know who the heck they are? They WERE mainstream.

As for prices, well, at least if you pay €160 you know that there won't be anyone turning up just to throw beer cups at them and cause trouble. LOL. You say that a high ticket price would mean only one slice of society gets to see them - so what? Do I care about the fact that some people can't afford it? No. The fact is that there ARE people who will pay €160.

As for damaging their legendary reputation... whatever man. It's no secret that music is a business. All I know is that if LZ are playing, I'll be there, end of.

Thats fair enough, I'd be there too unless ticket prices were massively extortionately (although I think theres a fairly good chance they would be) and it would doubtless be a gig to remember. It would still ruin the legend I think.

Still disagree with you about the mainstream thing though, can't see how a rock band gets more mainstream than Led Zeppelin. They have a compilation in the top 10 album charts right now. Mainstream music doesn't equate to bad music though, so lets not fight about a pedantic thing like that.

The fact is that there ARE people who will pay €160

I think that that is the worst possible reason Led Zeppelin could use to regroup and tour. It would highlight the very worst aspects of the music business (commercialism and greed) and seriously damage the band's integrity. I don't think they will do it though.

nij

Yeah but we all know the promoters take a large cut from that. Maybe they wouldn't do a deal with the band unless they agree to a ticket price like that. Yes, commercialism is the worst part of music, but I think we can all tell which bands are corporate puppets and which are musicians.

cornbb

nij wrote: »

Yes, commercialism is the worst part of music, but I think we can all tell which bands are corporate puppets and which are musicians.

Yes, big time. Zeppelin are true artists and don't appear to have lost the head when it comes to moneymaking and commercialism If Led Zeppelin were to tour they might have enough clout to keep the ticket prices at reasonable levels. So if they do tour lets hope that happens, therefore keeping all of us happy