Zeroing Scope on AUG A1

Stercus Accidit

Just got a jing gong aug military and cant seem to zero the scope.

Is it just the little screw with the alen key hole you turn or the larger nut its set into aswell.

Cant find any info on this,

Thanks.

NakedDex

The real ones use a tool similar to a 90degree valve key if I remember, so I'm assuming the airsoft variants use something like an allen key.

Windage on top
Elevation on the side.

Assuming your hop is tuned right, stick a target at 10 or 20 m, fire a couple of shots to get an idea of how far you need to tune and then it's just trial and error from there. Turn the Elevation dial (the one on the side) to bring the circle up or down, windage obviously does left or right then.

If you're turning them and nothings happening, it's possible it's either not connected or the teeth are missing their opposites. Also I've seen some scopes with a screw that just opens the dial, meaning you may have to open that screw, then turn the dial manually with another tool or with your fingers to adjust it, then tighten the screw to lock the new setting in place.

ED E

The CA use a little tool, Mauri dont make the mil anymore, and JG i dunno. With the CA you get a small tool. Its a cylinder, approx. 1cm in diameter and about 2 high. On the base are 2 "bumbs", one in the centre and one on the circumference. This fits in the small holes on the bottom and right adjuster. Justinsert and turn. DO NOT mess with the left one, its what holds in the sight assembly.


Lethal

Stercus Accidit

Yeah the jg version has an allen key slot.

Ive turned the screws completely in and out, as far as removing the screw altogether, it seems to affect nothing.

I've zeroed scopes before but the adjustment knobs seem to do absolutely nothing.

ED E

This is a clone. Its quirte possible that they are purely ornamental:eek:

Stercus Accidit

Its a possibility, but I thought jing gong was a copy of the CA version.

If so the bloody thing is useless as its WAYYY off as is, id be better off shooting with my eyes closed.

I may be doing it wrong but its just the little screw on the right that adjusts right and left, not the bigger nut its contained in?

Thats the only other possibility.

ED E

On the CA the adjustment is just the top of the Nut, not the whole thing.

Stercus Accidit

in that case im fooked.

thehomeofDob

'could be a fault? Ask Shiva if the rest of his are like that.

Stercus Accidit

If anyone knows someone with a jing gong aug military let me know and I'll ask them, thanks.

Jay TLR

Mines exactly the same. It sights down and the the right of where the BB goes and the adjustment does nothing to correct it. It does sorta make aiming a point and pray affair because of it. Disappointing...

Stercus Accidit

Jay TLR wrote: »

Mines exactly the same. It sights down and the the right of where the BB goes and the adjustment does nothing to correct it. It does sorta make aiming a point and pray affair because of it. Disappointing...

Mine looks up and to the right.

For a gun with an integrated scope its a bit sh1tty to be like that.

I may get a railed upper receiver for a proper scope.

Or a CA but thats a big step up from a clone impulse buy.

thehomeofDob

That is quite disappointing. I was considering the clone, but it's the CA for me now.

Stercus Accidit

I wonder what the clone plus a CA upper receiver would cost?

Probably worth just getting the CA.

ED E

Its unlike JG to have such a big drawback...If I were you I'd post it up on Arnies, if theres a way they'll know.

Stercus Accidit

To be honest I've a feeling the scope has something missing from inside it, a clone usually incorporates all the parts of what it clones, even if not that well they would be there, and an unadjustable scope on a fixed scope aeg is weird.

SpitfireIV

Any chance of some close up shots of the 'sight adjusters'?

Stercus Accidit

No camera sorry.

SpitfireIV

No problem. I'm getting one of these military JG AUG's and I'm finding it a bit hard to believe they cant be sighted in :eek:, pretty crappy if they cant be.

But surely this issue would have been raised before now, no? If it was a known flaw.

bullets

I've tried to zero a my CA AUG scope and a two red-dots.
I cant help but feel I am just wasting my time. Any of the airsoft
products I have fired (and I have got a few now) dont fire consistently.
At about 10m Still getting impacts that vary as much as 12 inches.

I cant help but feel Optical scopes in airsoft are more cosmetic than practical.
Red dots may merit a little bit more practical use when it comes to getting on target nice and quick.

~B

ED E

bullets wrote: »

I've tried to zero a my CA AUG scope and a two red-dots.
I cant help but feel I am just wasting my time. Any of the airsoft
products I have fired (and I have got a few now) dont fire consistently.
At about 10m Still getting impacts that vary as much as 12 inches.

I cant help but feel Optical scopes in airsoft are more cosmetic than practical.
Red dots may merit a little bit more practical use when it comes to getting on target nice and quick.

~B

Did you clean the barrels thoroughly?

Stercus Accidit

bullets wrote: »

I've tried to zero a my CA AUG scope and a two red-dots.
I cant help but feel I am just wasting my time. Any of the airsoft
products I have fired (and I have got a few now) dont fire consistently.
At about 10m Still getting impacts that vary as much as 12 inches.

I cant help but feel Optical scopes in airsoft are more cosmetic than practical.
Red dots may merit a little bit more practical use when it comes to getting on target nice and quick.

~B

The classic army scope does adjust though?

The point is you can zero them, adjust them to the average point of impact, at least enough to be usable, the problem here it seems is the scope lacks any adjustability, at all.

The scope is very far off axis and cant be even made to point in a general direction of hits.

ED E

Pics in a sec.

ED E

SpitfireIV

Thats pretty much the same as the real steel, I remember the armourers had a little small tool like that which they'd adjust the sight with.

Come on Motosam, tell us you made a mistake and the sights CAN be adjusted , damn those cheap ass JG's!!

Jay TLR

In fairness lads, we've both tried and neither one of us can get it zero'ed. It's not something simple.

Stercus Accidit

My scope any way is mounted off axis and doesn't adjust at all.

I suspect an internal part is missing but thats speculation.

I'm going to get a krinkov instead.

SpitfireIV

Jay TLR wrote: »

In fairness lads, we've both tried and neither one of us can get it zero'ed. It's not something simple.

Are you having the exact same issue Jay? ie the screw coming right the way out but nothing happening? Whats in behind that screw? does the taking out of the screw allow the larger wheel to be turned perhaps?

Jay TLR

Taking the screw out does not let the outer wheel turn. That's an obvious one. When you take the screw out you can see inside there's an inner tube, which must be the scope itself. The screw just presses on this when you turn it, you can see the marks on it from trying. It doesn't seem to move because it this. Pretty piss poor to be honest....

SpitfireIV

Ah, right, thanks. Seems that those two screws are supposedly supposed to put pressure (or relief) on that inner barrell. Once the screws are removed is that inner barrell lose? Is there any play in it?

I understand it a little better now, you'd imagine there's be springs or pressure put on the scope from the opposite side of the screw holes. Is there a retaining ring (the first object in the pic below) that can be removed to allow that inner barrel to slide out and have a gawk at whats going on in there?

Jay TLR

Both lenses are set a half inch into the outer tube. There is threading just before the lenses on both sides so I don't think the screws are holding it in there but the whole unit has been screwed in there. It doesn't look like it's meant to be screwed out easily enough.

ED E

I beleive there is no way of removing the CA one in a way that you can re-insert it. I asked before in case the lens was damaged by a BB and was told the only solution was a new top receiver.

Stercus Accidit

The third large non adjusting nut on the scope holds in the lens assembly so I'm told based on real steel.

ED E

Motosam wrote: »

The third large non adjusting nut on the scope holds in the lens assembly so I'm told based on real steel.

Yep. Somebody said that if you loosened it the whole thing would just come apart. I'll see if i can dig up the thread.

Gatling

did u try use the small silver allen key hidden in the packaging just sorted the brother in laws jg Aug scope using it

Jay TLR

Yes, made no difference to mine.

SpitfireIV

Gatling wrote: »

did u try use the small silver allen key hidden in the packaging just sorted the brother in laws jg Aug scope using it

Interesting, so you were able to zero in that AUG with no problem? Where did he get that AUG?

I've been looking all over the net and I cant seem to find any issues with the scope, no one has reported that it cant be adjusted.

SpitfireIV

Jay, did you get the problem sorted? If not I found what the problem was on my one anyway, appears to be a case of someone on the assembly line not knowing what they were doing :rolleyes:.

Gimme a shout if your still stuck.

Jay TLR

Mines still the same. I'd love to know how you sorted it...

SpitfireIV

Jay, remove that third nut (the one not used for adjusting the sight), dont worry, your sight wont fall apart or anything. When you remove that you will find a spring and a metal cap (this spring should put pressure on the inner tube allowing for horizontal and vertical movement.

When I removed that nut, I found that whoever had assembled the gun must have put that nut and spring in first, then when the gun was laying on its side they slid the inner tube in, which in turn 'pinched' the spring and bent it a little so that it wasnt putting any pressure on the inner tube :rolleyes:

I removed the spring, flipped it around, put it back into the nut and put the metal cap ON TOP of the spring! (I found with mine that the metal cap was in the nut, serving no purpose whatsoever. Then pop the whole lot back into the gun.

This will make a lot more sense when you remove that nut! I did it with mine and have just come in from zero'ing my AUG and its working fine now

Jay TLR

Same on mine mate. I took the nut off and the spring was caught over to top of the inner tube. Freed it and I'm going to try to zero it tomorrow but that definitely looks like the problem. Thanks for that...