Live cash game advice(general).

connie147

Ok. I'm going to Vegas on Sunday and theres 9 nights of cash game action ahead.
Last nite I visited the Maccau for their monthly game, early exit and jumped on the cash table.The standard was absolutely woeful. 10 players on the table,only 1 half decent in seat 10,I was in seat 2.

Now this standard of game was much the same as the last time I was in Vegas when the standard was wreckless.I'm looking for some advice from the regular live cash game players as to how best to approach these games.

When some of these loose guys limped into a pot,they werent for giving up.
EG: 7 limpers to me on the button(1-2 nl),I make it 25 to go with AsQs. 3 callers. Flop is AK4 r,I bet 60,1 caller,check the rest of the way and he shows K4o to take it down.
It didnt matter how much you raise here pf,your gonna get callers. As I wasnt getting starting hands,I just used my position to raise pots and hoping to hit cause if I did,I knew theyed pay me off. Is that the correct stratagy with a table of donkeys,or do ye limp into most pots as you would get to see flops cheap because no one else was raising preflop.

I even saw 2 different players limp their BB with QQ and AA with 6 or 7 limpers into them. I've read where on a super loose table,one should tighten up cosiderably and wait for big hands, but whats the stratagy when no big hands arrive. These are mostly multilimped pots. Whats your starting hand requirement to
1)limp with them
2)raise them
3)how much does your position affect these decisions.

PS: this is not a sob story.I won about €400,but felt I should have been dominating this table much more.

All advice appreciated.I'll put it to use next week!!:)

5starpool

Don't stoop to their levels and paly with any old crap. Play lots of suited connectors and be very aggressive when you flop big hands or big draws. Rarely bluff them. Play position more often. Bet/raise bigger than you normally would if these players are the type to call preflop with loads of crap. Just be extremely observant and you will see loads more stuff with them than you would at a table of fairly decent players.

Standard stuff really I think.

RoundTower

connie147 wrote: »

I've read where on a super loose table,one should tighten up cosiderably and wait for big hands

this is 100% wrong. The misconception comes from the fact that you can win money by playing super tight and betting your premium hands hard, even if you have no poker skills whatsoever, so that is a good recommendation for a beginner in a very loose game. However if you have played before you should play a lot of hands preflop and try to hit something big.

I would usually bet at least one more street with that AQ hand you had, because you can expect to get paid off by a smaller ace.

bops

connie147 wrote: »

I've read where on a super loose table,one should tighten up cosiderably and wait for big hands, but whats the stratagy when no big hands arrive. These are mostly multilimped pots. Whats your starting hand requirement to
1)limp with them
2)raise them
3)how much does your position affect these decisions.

Two Things Connie (IMO)

1) Don't get involved without a big hand, when you get one, raise it lots and bet it hard etc etc - you will get called by worse hands, so make them pay lots to catch their 3 outters...

2) Play ATC in a limped pot from the CO/Button - if you hit big play it accordingly - bet it hard, don't get involved after the flop by chasing etc.

the advantages of these two together is that people will see you are in pots every orbit, not just sitting their waiting for the big one...

the worst thing you can do is drop to their level and limp with big hands etc, they will hit ****ty 2 pairs and gutshots etc, and to be frank, they will be better at playing like a monkey than you!!

When no big hands arrive, tough!! - you have spent nothing except a few limps and blinds, come back tomorrow etc!!

gl in vegas!!

ianmc38

Play as many hands in position as possible, value bet relentlessly, raise and reraise preflop with all premium hands. Play SCs and suited one/two gappers in multiway pots. I dont think you need to loosen up or play ultra tight. Just play a normal TAG style and you should crush the game. IF theyre calling down with bottom pair, then adjust your bluffing and cbetting frequencies so you're doing it much less and instead look to get 2 streets of value out of hands like middle pair or top pair with a bad kicker.

Van Dice

yeah whenever I've played live, I've almost always been very very ABC. No reason to get out of line when most opponents are terrible and their main leak is never folding. Best way to exploit that is to start off by rarely bluffing and value betting a LOT. So I'd just try to play standard stuff, very tight in EP, very loose in late, because your implied odds are huge.
When you start getting better reads on opponents after some table time, you can introduce some plays, but there really is very little need to try anything fancy to crush live cash games. Solid + sensible = $$$$

eagle eye

I love this sort of table, and i will play any connecting cards if i get in cheap, because when these guys hit top pair, they don't see the possibility that that you might have a straight. Generally i keep the pots small though, because you never know when these sort of idiots will outdraw you.

And of course throw in a small bluff now and again, when you know you are behind, just so you get paid off when you have a monster.