Ballsbridge the coke capital of Ireland?

TJJP

What you reckon, is Ballsbridge really the coke capital of Ireland?

According to Senator Michael McCarthy in the Seanad yesterday it seems so...

"We must bear in mind that when it is being snorted in Ballsbridge, etc., one is fuelling drug lords, the scum of society who murder people to gain money and who do not care about the consequences".

Senator McCarthy isn't the first to suggest this is the case, D4 seems to get a bad rap (pardon the pun).

Finally if the drugs problem is so rampant, should I now avoid buying a house in D4?

seanabc

You should be safe enough there. The consequences of their actions are played out in poorer areas.

Sizzler

TJJP wrote: »

should I now avoid buying a house in D4?

If you can afford a house in D4 you shouldnt be on here asking :rolleyes:

Laslo

I find it hilarious how politicians and figureheads all the way up to Mary McAleese have no problem blaming everyone but themselves for the issues that drugs cause in society. There are so many options available to them (legalise and control drugs, making them safer - show no mercy whatsoever to violent criminals and people caught with large quantites of drugs, etc) but they choose to sit on their fat asses and try and blame Oision and Sorcha from, loike, Foxrock.

seanabc

Poor old Oisin and Sorcha. Everyone's out to get them.

P_1

Laslo wrote: »

I find it hilarious how politicians and figureheads all the way up to Mary McAleese have no problem blaming everyone but themselves for the issues that drugs cause in society. There are so many options available to them (legalise and control drugs, making them safer - show no mercy whatsoever to violent criminals and people caught with large quantites of drugs, etc) but they choose to sit on their fat asses and try and blame Oision and Sorcha from, loike, Foxrock.

I would support legalisation but it won't fly if only introduced in one country. Perhaps if it was EU wide or something like that it could work.

Tha Gopher

Cocaine is more widely used in poorer areas. Dont listen to the bile you read in the sunday indo.

All on a whole though that crap seems to be on its way out in Dublin. But in th countryside its gone through the roof.

syklops

D4 is no worse than anywhere else for coke. I have lived in D4 for over 2 years, and have never been offered any, never seen any drug dealers on the streets. The only people I know who do it, come into D4 to work, from other areas.

I got offered more when I lived in swords.

There are lots of hookers though

I would buy a house in ballsbridge if I had a chance.

Terry

TJJP wrote: »

What you reckon, is Ballsbridge really the coke capital of Ireland?

According to Senator Michael McCarthy in the Seanad yesterday it seems so...

"We must bear in mind that when it is being snorted in Ballsbridge, etc., one is fuelling drug lords, the scum of society who murder people to gain money and who do not care about the consequences".

Senator McCarthy isn't the first to suggest this is the case, D4 seems to get a bad rap (pardon the pun).

Finally if the drugs problem is so rampant, should I now avoid buying a house in D4?

What pun?

Laslo

pithater1 wrote: »

I would support legalisation but it won't fly if only introduced in one country. Perhaps if it was EU wide or something like that it could work.

Well it's an issue that requires a whole other thread... a whole other forum even. It's very complex and would need to be very, very carefully considered. Legalisation is something that might not even work. However, it's certainly one of the forward-thinking options worth considering seeing as the war on drugs has been lost comprehensively by every single government on earth. And now, in Ireland, the people who are supposed to be taking full responsibility are blaming everyone but themselves. It's all a bit pathetic really. And Indorag isn't helping with it's lazy and ignorant analysis of the situation.

Legalisation and regulation is one option and would wipe out a multi-billion criminal trade overnight. Mandatory life sentences for anyone carrying X kilos of Y drug *might* also act as a deterrent (or maybe not). They're just two options but it seems nothing is being considered by our incompetent government who are just playing the blame game at this stage, while the narcotic industry continues to flourish. Bravo! :rolleyes:

Raytown Rocks

Terry wrote: »

What pun?

I presume he means a "wrap", the well know phrase for an amount of drugs you could buy.
Hence the play on words.

TJJP

Terry wrote: »

What pun?

rap = wrap (wrap as in a sale volume of speed/coke).

Sorry, it was a bit subtle but I couldn't resist.... Perhaps it doesn't qualify..

Procasinator

Is just me or has there been alot of coke threads lately.

syklops wrote: »

There are lots of hookers though

A complement of coke. You can't have them without coke!

hottstuff

It is no longer a richman's drug , and is available everywhere , regardless if you get offered it or not.
It is the reason we have such highly strung , shoot first , criminal types.

humanji

chef wrote: »

I presume he means a "wrap", the well know phrase for an amount of drugs you could buy.
Hence the play on words.

It's not that well known

Dave!

Was forced to listen to Adrian Kennedy last night in work, and he was talking about the drug dealers -- are they really to blame? Scum of the earth? Or are they just catering to a market, and it's the users that are to blame?

I think 7000 threads about cocaine is enough, so maybe ye can address those general points in this one instead.

Stereophonic

seanabc wrote: »

Poor old Oisin and Sorcha. Everyone's out to get them.

Haha

eirebhoy

The D4 steriotype again, ahh. Ringsend is full of it but that's as much a working class area as anywhere in Dublin.

seanabc

Was forced to listen to Adrian Kennedy last night in work, and he was talking about the drug dealers -- are they really to blame? Scum of the earth? Or are they just catering to a market, and it's the users that are to blame?

He really is dire. They should have debates about how much damage passive listening to Adrian Kennedy is causing.

hottstuff

DaveMcG wrote: »

Was forced to listen to Adrian Kennedy last night in work, and he was talking about the drug dealers -- are they really to blame? Scum of the earth? Or are they just catering to a market, and it's the users that are to blame?

I think 7000 threads about cocaine is enough, so maybe ye can address those general points in this one instead.

Good point , but addiction=demand , and as long as we have pushers there will be addiction.
I feel drug dealers today don't feel bad about what they do , beacuse of this word "demand".
Whereas if no one wanted any do you think they wouldn't bother trying to sell any , no they would be forced to push it on people.
Don't get me wrong , the users are as much to blame , but that doesn't mean the dealers don't start the wheel rolling.

Latchy

Can anybody remember a time when there wasn't drug dealers in ireland ? Remember the early 80s when there was more Heroin in dublin than Amsterdam and Sorcha Oisin and brothers would have to take a trek out to Dolphins barn to get their fix. Only difference now is irelands a richer country .

TJJP

seanabc wrote: »

The consequences of their actions are played out in poorer areas.

But 'their' actions? I don't really think that's the case. While I agree with your making the general connection between drug misuse and broader societal issues, Health Research Board (http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/) data would seem to suggest that D4 isn't the centre of all Ireland's problems....

seanabc

But 'their' actions? I don't really think that's the case. While I agree with your making the general connection between drug misuse and broader societal issues, Health Research Board (http://www.ndc.hrb.ie/) data would seem to suggest that D4 isn't the centre of all Ireland's problems....

True enough. There's plenty of money in Ireland to be spent on recreational drugs without D4. They're not the centre of all Irelands problems but they have got a part in them.

Rb

I hope the Dail got a mention in his list of places that coke is snorted regularly.

bug

latchyco wrote: »

Can anybody remember a time when there wasn't drug dealers in ireland ? Remember the early 80s when there was more Heroin in dublin than Amsterdam and Sorcha Oisin and brothers would have to take a trek out to Dolphins barn to get their fix. Only difference now is irelands a richer country .

Yes true.
But that was mostly because life was so **** for a fair percentage of the population and people used to go on political marches for something to occupy their time in between drawing the dole.
Now cocaine goes with Chanel dresses and adopted D4 accents.
It goes with a pint and any particular, or every night out.

And people are agressive as hell.

And why is everyone adopting a D4 accent? I don't get this at all. Everyone is speaking with this bizarre accent even if your from the arsehole of Mayo.

Latchy

Quote =bug;54598499]Yes true.
But that was mostly because life was so **** for a fair percentage of the population and people used to go on political marches for something to occupy their time in between drawing the dole.

Yes, life was very bland then with the occasional rock concert and football match to take to gloom off a bit .

Now cocaine goes with Chanel dresses and adopted D4 accents.
It goes with a pint and any particular, or every night out.

And people are agressive as hell.

That is one of the sadder aspects of 21rst century ireland , any drug use on my part was in moderation .

And why is everyone adopting a D4 accent? I don't get this at all. Everyone is speaking with this bizarre accent even if your from the arsehole of Mayo.

A sign of the times , people out in Templeogue, Rathfarnham and the surrounding surburbs can also have nice accents .Some people wish to change their accents to fit in and some dont .