Gibson Robot Guitar

21stone

anybody seen the new Gibson Robot Guitar ???

tunes itself etc man u wanna check the gibson site out

www.gibson.com

whats yer views on it ??

thinking of ordering one

jamieh

Hey,

I'm in the same boat!

I'm going to NYC b4 Xmas and thinking of getting one over there.

I don't know can I justify the price tho. There's a hefty price difference just because it tunes itself.

You can pick up a Les Paul for around $1,000. A robot is around twice that I think.

21stone

ud be only person in ireland with it

perfect tuning everytime

futuristic guitar next way forward

2400 dollars

leninbenjamin

I saw a prototype of this on TV years ago. the basically had a competition between a roadie and the guitar as to who could tune faster and better... the presenters jaw's dropped at the speed the roadie managed (less than 15 seconds or something, it was ridiculously fast) while the guitar was still tuning a good while after (a few whole minutes i think)... so they'll have want to have improved on that.

this is like one of those inventions that everyone hypes up to the gills but nobody really needs. the only way this will take off is if they can reduce the price enough for beginners who haven't quite gotten the ear for tuning yet.

jamieh

leninbenjamin wrote: »

I saw a prototype of this on TV years ago. the basically had a competition between a roadie and the guitar as to who could tune faster and better... the presenters jaw's dropped at the speed the roadie managed (less than 15 seconds or something, it was ridiculously fast) while the guitar was still tuning a good while after (a few whole minutes i think)... so they'll have want to have improved on that.

this is like one of those inventions that everyone hypes up to the gills but nobody really needs. the only way this will take off is if they can reduce the price enough for beginners who haven't quite gotten the ear for tuning yet.

The guitar was prob tuning string by string. The Robot tunes all the strings simultainously so it only takes about 5-6 seconds as far as I know!

kev_s88

does anyone know the price over here yet?? Gibson's website gives it at $2499

Waltons is the only shop in Ireland selling it because they are Ireland's main Gibson Dealer.each store is getting 10 which means 30 in ireland overall.

leninbenjamin

jamieh wrote: »

The guitar was prob tuning string by string. The Robot tunes all the strings simultainously so it only takes about 5-6 seconds as far as I know!

nah it takes longer than that judging by the videos, but it's much faster than the protoype i saw (which didn't tune them string by string mind you as you're saying). i think the mechanism that tuned the one i saw was actually in the body though... so the robot mightn't be directly related to it as i first thought.

still... it doesn't beat that roadie I saw judging by the videos . plus i think it prevents you tuning as you go to some extent, as you have to either remove your hands from the neck, or else unlock the machine heads at the top. which would be annoying if you're trying a quickly tune a string as your holding a chord or note mid-song...

mathias

Useful to have a self tuning guitar , but if you play guitar , you should know how to tune it yourself , that would be in my opinion essential knowledge , so I wouldnt be paying a premium for this feature.

21stone

you wouldnt be paying just for that

paying for next level in guitars

its digital not like all the oldschool manuals

Eoin Madsen

Are you a Gibson sales rep?

Tbh, a self-tuning guitar is a ridiculous gimmick. Tuning is not what's wrong with modern Gibsons - they probably should have blown that R&D money on something useful like quality control.

If I had two and a half grand and I was looking for a classic Gibson sound, the last thing I'd buy would be a Gibson.

mathias

Tuning is not what's wrong with modern Gibsons - they probably should have blown that R&D money on something useful like quality control.

Amen to that , Best friend just shelled out over 2K for a les paul and the state it arrived in was just brutal , Intonation was screwed and couldnt be set up without a neck adjustment.

I wouldnt be the first to try out that robot thing on stage , I can just imagine it going haywire in the middle of a song and the machine heads flying around like mad!

Ger the man

mathias wrote: »

Amen to that , Best friend just shelled out over 2K for a les paul and the state it arrived in was just brutal , Intonation was screwed and couldnt be set up without a neck adjustment.

I wouldnt be the first to try out that robot thing on stage , I can just imagine it going haywire in the middle of a song and the machine heads flying around like mad!

+1. A lazy guitarists gimmick. It's like putting a body kit on a vintage Rolls Royce!

Voodu Child

kev_s88 wrote: »

does anyone know the price over here yet?? Gibson's website gives it at $2499

Waltons are doing them for €14,999*

Ask for Billy and tell him I sent you and they'll throw in a free set of strings

*Not the real price btw Don't know, don't care..

Frankiestylee

voodoo_child wrote: »

Waltons are doing them for €14,999.

Ask for Billy and tell him I sent you and they'll throw in a free set of strings

...and that's in the January sales

A Waltons rep was on all the Phantom news bits today, trying to hype them up...apparently people aren't exactly queuing out the door for them, but as it gets nearer to xmas, oh oh oh. Excitement.

Ger the man

Who in their right mind would pay 15k for a guitar that saves you a few mins max tuning it for you?

Gaspode

I'd rather spend 15k for a drummer that shut the fcuk up when you told him to!!

sei046

i dont know guys. when this comes down in price it seems like a nice idea and a logical way forward. all the roadies are just freaking about their jobs

Scoual

it's incredible the amount of bull*** you can read sometimes here,
this guitar will be available worlwide this friday and believe it or not price will be €1999, Waltons has ordered 30 but as Waltons is gibson/epiphone distributor for ireland so those 30 will be dispatched throughout all the country, they will of course keep a small bunch for their own stores.. we're far from the 15k announced....
and i'd wouldn't buy that guitar in the states just in case you'll need support if someting goes wrong....:)

Voodu Child

Scoual wrote: »

it's incredible the amount of bull*** you can read sometimes here.......we're far from the 15k announced....

The €15k + a free set of strings(!) was a (pretty obvious?) joke on the usual ridiculous Irish prices.

I edited it when it was obvious some of the newer guys didnt get it :rolleyes:

leninbenjamin

voodoo_child wrote: »

I edited it when it was obvious some of the newer guys didnt get it :rolleyes:

in fairness you'd have to be mildly retarded not to have picked it up as a joke.

sei046 wrote:

and a logical way forward

it shouldn't be for the player in my view. it's just another way of making guitarists lazy... it's crazy the amount of guitarists out there who think they are half way decent but can hardly do anything by ear. learning to tune by ear was a great way of developing one's musical ear... this type of thing isn't really good for the overall standard of playing in my view. if you feel you'd benefit from one of these i'd question you're ability in fairness (and i know that's a huge generalisation but i'm sure it would hold for a sizeable few).

i am a pessimist though

Rustar

As I believe I stated in the thread we had last week on this guitar, the real value is in alternate tunings. And being on stage. It has nothing to do with removing the need for tuning skills when you're prancing around and rockin' out in the bedroom.

Audiences don't enjoy watching you go
"BEEYAaahhhhhwooooooouuuuuwww......booooiiiiiiiiink <tink> <tink> (harmonics there)"
no matter what you might think about your mad tuning skillz.

What this would do is allow you to press a button and drop into DGCGCD tuning so you can play the Rain Song without grabbing another guitar, then with another button press be back to standard tuning to play something else.

Would I pay 2 grand for it? No, but then again, you'd have a hard time getting me to pay that much for any guitar.

kev_s88

im hoping to put down a deposit tomorrow.providing the parents are nice enough to "offer" to get me it for xmas

Frankiestylee

Wow,people not getting the joke was far funnier then the actual joke, I loves it.

Oh, surely you could get much better guitars for the price. As someone already said, it's kinda pointless buying this guitar unless you use a load of weird tunings on stage.

mathias

learning to tune by ear was a great way of developing one's musical ear...

Agreed 100% and for anyone starting or beginning on guitar this is vital , the amount of guitarists you come across that have never learned this and always used tuners is staggering , and embarrassing when you come across someone with an out of cal tuner whos convinced his badly out of tune guitar is correct because the tuner said so.

One of the first things any guitarist , or for that matter any stringed instrument player , should learn is to be able to tell by ear if the instrument is in tune, and not rely on some machine that can go out of whack.

This is a bad addition to any guitar in my opinion , and while no one expects anyone to manually tune on stage , this would be no benefit , if you use alternate tunings on stage , there is no substitute for having extra guitars already tuned up and waiting. This gimmick will never replace the need for that.

Rustar

mathias wrote:

"...and while no one expects anyone to manually tune on stage..."

Huh? Are you saying, "with crowd noise and other guitarists tuning you'd never hear yourself, so of course you'd use a tuner," or are you saying you just grab another guitar when yours goes out of tune?

mathias wrote:

"...if you use alternate tunings on stage , there is no substitute for having extra guitars already tuned up and waiting."

Sure there is. It's called "space", which is at a premium on most club stages.

Regardless of how you tune, you need to know whether you're at concert pitch or a half-step or full-step down. The only way to certify that is to use some sort of tuning device or tone generator (like a pitch pipe).
You always tune to something else when playing in a group, whether it be another guitarist, an oboe, or a tuning device.

mathias

Rustar the whole point of the post is that you need to be able to tell by ear if your out of tune or not , and thats a skill a lot of new guitarists never learn ,

As evidenced by a lot of the sub par acts playing around dublin these days , many have no idea that their instrument is out of tune , and its tuners that are to blame for that ,

Of course if you know , you'd use a tuner , but you have to know is the point!

kev_s88

oh yeah just put down my deposit on the Robot.

gonna go pick it up on friday!!! excellent :D

Rustar

Ehhhhxcellent.....don't forget to post some pictures!

kev_s88

of course.how could i forget something like that

Rustar

Spoken like a true Instruments.ie man.

nyarlothothep

meh, I was expecting a guitar that could talk or a programmable guitar, like you could program a mad shred solo and then press a button on stage and the guitar would play itself

kev_s88

totally gay.i have to wait until saturday morning before i can pick mine up because they're not releasing them until 5pm today and im gonna be long gone from town by then.i wanted to play it and show it off later....

bad show!!!

Keyzer

I like the look of this guitar, nice blue colour.

But I have to say, having the guitar tune itself is a total gimmick.
Why not buy a standard Les Paul and buy a digital tuner. Only takes 20 seconds to retune.

Plus, although I play a Strat, when I tune it and play for a while, it stays in tune. If your playing live, unless you're really hammering the guitar it will stay in tune for at least 3-4 songs, probably more. So do a quick tune up after 3-4 songs and roberts your fathers brother. Plus you save a grand.

I suppose though, if you were loaded or played for a living then it would be quite helpful.

Quattroste

deswalsh wrote: »

I'd rather spend 15k for a drummer that shut the fcuk up when you told him to!!

Best post on this thread.

I'm actually curious about the €1999. Your standard LP is dearer than that so if your paying a premium for the self tuning, what class of axe are you getting.

I guess Kev will let us know soon enough. Congrats by the way. You have nicer parents than I'll ever be

Scoual

it is a les paul studio, not a standard and price has gone up:rolleyes:

http://waltons.ie/waltonsshop/product_info.php?products_id=11155

kev_s88

i finally got to collect it today and she is more beautiful in real life.

as said the price is gone up.they forgot to add 100euro for the special charger for the Li-ion battery that powers the electrics.

anyways she plays like a dream and the tuning mechanism is so freakin' sweet. here's a few pics i took earlier...

Rustar

A beauty for sure. I thought the paint job was kind of "Daisy Rock" looking at first, but your pics do it extreme justice. Good show!

Next step: sound samples and movies!!!

kev_s88

give me time....:D

jimi_t

Oh dear...

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=39904&cat=16

Thomas_S_Hunterson

jimi_t wrote: »

Oh dear...

http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=33638&cat=500

?
pimpin your wares:D?

Voodu Child

Sean_K wrote: »

?
pimpin your wares:D?

I think he was trying to link to the LP Robot on adverts right now. Someone profiteering, or the novelty wore off very quickly.

Either way,

jimi_t wrote:

oh dear

+1

jimi_t

voodoo_child wrote: »

I think he was trying to link to the LP Robot on adverts right now. Someone profiteering, or the novelty wore off very quickly.

Either way,

+1

Hehe, yeah. Got meself muddled

I'm hoping for gibsons sake that its just someone getting hit with an xmass credit card bill or something, but the Waltons RRP indicates differently... With the propreitary technology in it, the build quality would probably be closer to an Epi than a standard LP (and given that standard LPs seem to be getting slated in terms of build quality these days, thats a worrying premise). I'm going to pop into Waltons some morning in the next few days to give it a whirl anyways.

Mickarooney

well?
Whats the reports? has anyone played one yet? is it nice?
im thinking about pickin one up as I do a lot of jumping between tunings at the mo playing stones covers and all sorts, this thing would save me bringing 3 guitars to gigs

kev_s88

its a very nice guitar.the tuning is so handy to have and really does cut down on the hassle of tuning.

quality wise its meant to be based on an LP Studio but tbh i rate the quality as closer to LP Standard.its a great guitar to play and the clean is beautiful.

if you're going to get one i'd suggest work fast on Ebay because hey're not gonna be hanging around at the 1900euro mark for long on ebay