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Why do you call me LORD! LORD! and not even do as I say?

  • 01-12-2007 7:44pm
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    SubjectSean
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't John the Baptist and Jesus have no posessions or a place to lay their heads. Didn't Jesus command people who would follow him to give away their posessions? He said money was tantamount to idolatary, no? All the first followers of Jesus lived as the poorest most economically inactive members of society and their way of life was even beginning to threaten the mighty Roman Empire (Babylon) itself. Where then did his plan to sort mankind out all go so very wrong I wonder?


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    PDN
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    SubjectSean wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't John the Baptist and Jesus have no posessions or a place to lay their heads. Didn't Jesus command people who would follow him to give away their posessions? He said money was tantamount to idolatary, no? All the first followers of Jesus lived as the poorest most economically inactive members of society and their way of life was even beginning to threaten the mighty Roman Empire (Babylon) itself. Where then did his plan to sort mankind out all go so very wrong I wonder?

    Jesus and the disciples had a treasurer (Judas) so they can hardly have been penniless.

    He said the love of money, not money itself, was tantamount to idolatry.

    Some of the first followers of Jesus were wealthy (eg Joseph of Arimathea).

    I believe his plan to sort mankind out went very well when He died on the Cross and rose from the dead. I also believe the Church took a massive wrong step into becoming the monstrosity of Christendom when it allowed itself to be hijacked by Constantine and formed an unholy alliance between Church and State. This has distorted and prostituted the Church's witness through both Catholic and Protestant Christendom, both of which have proved themselves to be vicious, hypocritical and unprincipled. I am delighted that today we live in an age when Christendom is imploding and a new, more authentic, form of church is able to appear.


  • #3
    SubjectSean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭SubjectSean


    PDN wrote: »
    Jesus and the disciples had a treasurer (Judas) so they can hardly have been penniless.

    He said the love of money, not money itself, was tantamount to idolatry.

    Some of the first followers of Jesus were wealthy (eg Joseph of Arimathea).

    I believe his plan to sort mankind out went very well when He died on the Cross and rose from the dead. I also believe the Church took a massive wrong step into becoming the monstrosity of Christendom when it allowed itself to be hijacked by Constantine and formed an unholy alliance between Church and State. This has distorted and prostituted the Church's witness through both Catholic and Protestant Christendom, both of which have proved themselves to be vicious, hypocritical and unprincipled. I am delighted that today we live in an age when Christendom is imploding and a new, more authentic, form of church is able to appear.

    So Judas was the treasurer for a bunch of people who begged donations in that case and I guess men like Joseph of Arimathea were kind of patrons. In acts in Jerusalem everybody in the still-at-the-time-jewish community is dirt poor, the hebrew sects of christianity that sprung up in early christian times were dirt poor and deliberately so.

    I agree with what you're saying about a hijack although I'm not so sure about the whole cross thing. I do have some difficulty with the turin shroud though.


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