Griffith College FE1 notes for sale

gabgab

I have company, constitutional, and contract, and the past papers, if anyone is interested in them let me know,

Cheers,

pirelli

How much is a second hand manual worth compared to a new manual.

gabgab

Hey Pirelli,

Cheers for the reply, some excellent information there for everyone, best of luck with the study mate, I hope it all goes well for you.

On a side note you offered me €78, for 2 manuals, so I am a little curious why you would offer me €39 for a manual in private but publicly reckon its worth between €15 and €22, bearing in mind that is a manual and past papers I dont think its crazy money at all,

Again thanks for all the information you provided and I hope it all goes well for you,

pirelli

gabgab wrote: »

past papers

For that reason above, Nutshell dont have past papers with answers and also the manual is a little more uptodate and more focused on the FE1. I withdrew my offer as you are aware.

gabgab

So to be fair, your suggestion that the manual is worth merely €15, and the papers are worth €39, in your expert opinion, then the lot is worth around €160,

Thanks for that I offered them to a bidder for €150, the lot,

Thanks again Pirelli,

pirelli

gabgab wrote: »

So to be fair, your suggestion that the manual is worth merely €15, and the papers are worth €39, in your expert opinion, then the lot is worth around €160,

Thanks for that I offered them to a bidder for €150, the lot,

Thanks again Pirelli,

I will say one thing i am beginning to dislike arguing with these grandois lawyers who have to be right all the time. The sting of what people say is true about lawyers. Learn the virtue humility. Learn to say your wrong.Read your OP and then accept your wrong and leave it at.

America1

Would anyone be willing to sell the following Fe1 Griffith manuals Equity, Contract, Criminal and property?

tombren

pirelli wrote: »

I will say one thing i am beginning to dislike arguing with these grandois lawyers who have to be right all the time. The sting of what people say is true about lawyers. Learn the virtue humility. Learn to say your wrong.Read your OP and then accept your wrong and leave it at.

just to give my two cents worth, dont understand why you think the OP is wrong, as the seller it's up to him to name his price, if you dont like it, dont buy them but dont think you should come on boards venting your grievences in relation to a private sale between the two of you and to be honest you just sound bitter because he didnt accept what you wanted to pay which is his choice,
i used to think that maybe about €40 euro was a fair price per manual but a mate of mine recently sold his manuals on another website for €100 ea, one person even offered him €180 for a tort manual (he didnt have one), so it's definitely a sellers market out there,
and as a person who's been through the fe1 system, make no mistake about it the manuals are definitely the most important thing when it comes to passing the exams, the classes, access to web and all the other things that pirelli mentioned are small bonuses which are not vital, take the manual out of the equation and you wouldnt have a chance. the nutshells are useful but not in the same league as the manuals, would be very hard to pass using them alone

gabgab

Hey cheers for that Tombren,

I sent Pirelli a PM, rather than clutter up the thread asking him why he felt the need to, in my eyes, rather vindictively throw up a comment regarding what they are worth,

This then turned out to be more than I was offering the lot to somebody for, €150

It was an odd post, and he/she put their heart and soul into it, but it makes no sense, but not to worry,

I am glad someone else thought it was a bit odd and unjustifiably bitter,

pirelli

tombren wrote: »

just to give my two cents worth, dont understand why you think the OP is wrong, as the seller it's up to him to name his price, if you dont like it......

I did not mean to say that the OP (opening Post) is wrong.I am using it prima facia to show the offer includes the notes. The OP states that the seller is offering a manual and notes (pastpapers). Therefore the offer from the buyer would include the pastpapers and notes unless they have stipulated otherwise.. That is logical. Therefore should the buyer pitch Gabgab 39 euro for his offer then the buyer expects that he/she wil also recieve the notes. For gabgab to claim i offered him 39 euro for notes only and 22 euro for the manual is false and untrue.

For some reason Gabgab has claimed that i said the manual was worth 15 -22 euro and the notes 39 euro. This is naive and it is obvious that 39 euro includes the notes. Therefore 39 euro - 22 or 15 euro which is 17 euro or 21 euro for the notes (pastpapers..) and 15 or 22 euro for the manual which is about right. It is far worse to receive PM's from Gabgab . I am not the one being less than honest about the price offered and the value of 39 euro. There are an endless supply of these manuals and at different prices, Someone should put a price on them as I do not wish to receive personal Pm's from huffy sellers. The lectures in my view which are given by the same people that lecture in the Kings Inn is whether you agree or not the true value of the fee.

pirelli

I would like to think that there was more to practising law than just reading those manuals which are quite thin in some areas. I'd imagine unless you are going to specialise in law in a particular field that you would have more than a griffith manual stuck in the drawer to support your lawerly judgments and advice. Might be better to just include them in the school curriculum during transistion year. Come on do the proffesion of law a favour and be more honest and dilligent than that.

dK1NG

pirelli wrote: »

The lectures in my view which are given by the same people that lecture in the Kings Inn is whether you agree or not the true value of the fee.

Many people, myself included, successfully pass the FE1s without attending a single class at GCD or elsewhere, instead relying on the manuals! The classes may be a bonus, but I totally disagree with the assertion that they are the main factor in a person getting through the exams.

Why else would GCD offer the possibility of a person doing their classes by means of distance-learning? Can s/o correct me if I am wrong, but is it true that the lectures merely consist of the person reading out the manual? Admittedly, if a student is having difficulty re a particular area then attendance at a lecture offers the potential for asking questions, or hearing questions put by other students, but to claim that the lectures are "the true value of the fee" is, in my humble opinion, inaccurate!

pirelli wrote: »

I would like to think that there was more to practising law than just reading those manuals which are quite thin in some areas. I'd imagine unless you are going to specialise in law in a particular field that you would have more than a griffith manual to stuck in the drawer to support your lawerly judgments and advice. Might be better to just include them in the school curriculum during transistion year. Come on do the proffesion of law a favour and be more honest and dilligent than that.

If you dont mind me asking, at what stage of your career are you at? I only ask as it would appear that you are at the pre-PPC stage going by your above posts.

I would hope that s/o more experienced at practice would comment on your above comment, as I do not feel suitably qualified to do so.

However, I do have this to say: are the FE1s not concerned with the theoretical underpinning etc of the law, and not concerned with the day-to-day practice? For example, you learn about procedure at Blackhall, not by doing hte FE1s! And if, as you seem to imply, a person specialising in a particular area would rely on the FE1 manuals to give advice, well then I would suggest that he would not be very specialised in his subject area!

pirelli

I am more nearly halfway through my career.
I am a proffesional in one field that is quite technical.Some years ago I also studied law purely academically and attended lectures in Law and I would maybe like to expand on that and I worked in a solicitors office.

In my previous post i did actually imply that if one was to specialise in a particular field of law than the griffith manual on its own is fine. It is fine because that individual will have to do an apprenticeship and will also have to do a diploma and other studies so as a means to an end thats is fine, That is what i implied. I am sorry if people keep misinterpretating what i mean.My criticism is i dont feel secure to just do a two year apprenticship after reading the griffith manuals in a sudden brainstorm . Then become a solicitor and very poorly advise innocent members of the public. These citizens are placing immense trust in solititors and Barristers rarely see the district court. The district has sentencing powers of two years our citizens deserve proper legal services. Many citizens are poorly defended and as KCR once said some solicitor's in the district court are not willing to put their necks out and seek judicial reviews are argue points of law. I dont see why reading some thin manual and some past papers and working two years in a crowded and busy solicitors office justifies some poor fellow getting a wrongful conviction. Was it not stated in the Irish law review that valuable court time is lost by the poor knowledge in commericial law by solicitors and barristers. This is the same in criminal law.


Off topic:
I wish to remind you of the identical summons thread. Where a unneccessary summons is sent and I will quote a solicitors view on that. In that solicitors view (HF) the solicitor clearly states that in such a matter it sounds like a strike out and their is no need for a solicitor to appear. The Garda from (BR) actually said he didnt feel there was a need for a solicitor. Nor do solicitors get costs for mistakes by the police. There is no incentive for a solicitor to act in such matters. This is contrary to the opinions of posts.

pirelli

tombren wrote: »

just to give my two cents worth, dont understand why you think the OP is wrong,

I must decline your graft. In a market place people have the right to haggle,
and I did not slander gabgab's goods. They are part of an larger overall package and that is a irrefutable fact. Perhaps they would have different value on a different market.

Rhonda9000

gabgab wrote: »

I have company, constitutional, and contract, and the past papers, if anyone is interested in them let me know,

Cheers,

Lets get this back on track. I hope you sell your notes gabgab, and I hope the buyer is suitably pleased

pirelli

I know the feeling gabgab. Trust me there are three very annoying people that hog any thread I open. In any case you said you had made an offer to a a bidder so best of luck. Incidently Tom and I had a chat on your thread and then he deleted all his posts. I appreciate that your posting your insults rather than sending them in PM's at least you might go away for a while.Legal isnt really for selling its not a classified.So I will try not to be insulted.Try Fe1 groups in google. You will sell them alot faster.

hullaballoo

Now now boys; please host your petty little handkerchief-waving ceremonies in someone else's forum - I don't have the time to be sorting through this sort of bickering.

@pirelli, ask questions re the administrative function of this site in the appropriate forum in future, namely, the Help Desk forum. Thanks.

tombren

pirelli wrote: »

In a market place people have the right to haggle.

no-one's doubting that for a second, you can haggle all day long for all i care, but when the haggle doesnt go your way dont come here belittling a fellow board member, just accept that he doesnt want to take what you have to offer and go give someone else the pleasure of your business

pirelli wrote: »

I would like to think that there was more to practising law than just reading those manuals which are quite thin in some areas. I'd imagine unless you are going to specialise in law in a particular field that you would have more than a griffith manual stuck in the drawer to support your lawerly judgments and advice. Might be better to just include them in the school curriculum during transistion year. Come on do the proffesion of law a favour and be more honest and dilligent than that.

no-one's suggesting that that all there is to practising law is to read few manuals, you're obviously missing the point of them, if u have one handy, take it out, you'll notice that on the front it says something along the lines of 'law society final examinations', this shouldnt be confused with 'definitive law text that you will rely on solely for the rest of your career'.
these manuals are for the purpose of passing the fe1's that's it! u said you've worked in a solicitors office if that's the case you will have noticed that their book shelves are not choc-a-block with gcd manuals

pirelli wrote: »

Incidently Tom and I had a chat on your thread and then he deleted all his posts..

i presume the tom in this sentance does not refer to me, if it does, well then to quote a famous norwich based radio dj "you're a mentalist", but given how misguided and confusing all your posts on this thread have been you could be referring to anyone

IT Loser

Hell GabGab et al......I was really just, upon, as Brian Lenihan used to say, mature recollection, looking for some good Land and Company notes. I would be prepared to make an individual offer for the Company notes.

There was a chap here selling Kings Inns stuff, but he disappeared. I was waiting to see what he wanted price-wise before I started to throw money around, just so you understand. Its not I'm afraid to pay, its that I am afraid to pay over the odds....for stuff I might not need.

Anyways, I am still in the market, sell me!!!

gabgab

Hey man,

Drop me a pm or something and we can discuss,

Thanks,