Road to nowhere - Only in Ireland!

gurramok

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1126/carlow.html?rss

This is so laughable of planning in Ireland, they can't finish a 1.5km main relief road(dublin to carlow) because the council didn't own the final 35m!!

Manic Moran

Can they not eminent domain it?

NTM

There's already a road to Nowhere.

It's called the Tuam Road.

Ho, ho!

Mr.Micro

gurramok wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1126/carlow.html?rss

This is so laughable of planning in Ireland, they can't finish a 1.5km main relief road(dublin to carlow) because the council didn't own the final 35m!!

No surprises there Carlow County Council are a joke in Carlow ,have not got a clue ,never had .Up until recently ( maybe not even still ) they did not have a qualified planner in the planning dept . A crossroad thats Carlow on your way to somewhere better

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

rofl

that road is never going to be open

GerryRyan

Mr.Micro wrote: »

A crossroad thats Carlow on your way to somewhere better

*Looks at course options - cries a little inside

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

There's already a road to Nowhere.

It's called the Tuam Road.

Ho, ho!

Which end!!!

biko

Deleted User wrote: »

Which end!!!

Are you asking or saying?

Pj!

Know feck all about this but heard that the council can only "eminent domain" from a landowner every 10 years.

As I say that could be complete tripe.

biko

biko wrote: »

Are you asking or saying?

Asking? saying! asking? whatever

Milktrolley

gurramok wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/1126/carlow.html?rss

This is so laughable of planning in Ireland, they can't finish a 1.5km main relief road(dublin to carlow) because the council didn't own the final 35m!!

Looking at the news report it looked as though that road was part of an industrial estate that's being built near Carlow's IDA Park. If that's the case its nothing to do with Dublin-Carlow traffic as such. Is that the one with the problem or is it actually the new M9?

Compulsary purchase?

Not an issue if it's an national (N/M) road. Different story if it's a private road that wil be adopted by the council later.

mike65

Pah, thats nothing. In Italy there are whole roads that go nowhere built with public money to enrich mafia run construction companies.

They do this sort of thing properly.

Mike.

davidoco

You shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers or RTE.ie for that matter.

The road they are talking about has absolutely nothing to do with the new bypass motorway standard (N9) MAIN Carlow Dublin Road. It's a small link road in the town serving a "to be built" business park/retail park.

The sentence "the main Carlow to Dublin road is effectively a road to nowhere." is a total lie.

prendy

its still funny tho...the 'are sure it'll be grand' attitude!
build it anyway!

Rob_l

prendy wrote: »

its still funny tho...the 'are sure it'll be grand' attitude!
build it anyway!

I think it will "be grand" anyway do we not have things called eh compulsory purchase orders for things like this

Pompey Magnus

davidoco wrote: »

The sentence "the main Carlow to Dublin road is effectively a road to nowhere." is a total lie.

Yeah, when I read that I was completely confused, I don't know where they got that from. One minute they say it is "a relief road around part of the town" and they finish by claiming it is the main Carlow to Dublin road, .

Strictly speaking, it would only be a "road to nowhere" if both ends were disconnected! But then it would be called a runway....:D

Ishmael

Its Just a second inner relief road that happens to finish pretty close to the M9 bypass.

Its similar to the other relief road that was built at the back of the Fairgreen shopping center.

RxQueen

carlow is good for two things ---scraggs and the foundry!!

and the road leading to them everyweekend is in perfectly working order!

Victor

Can we have some indication of where it is?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=carlow+ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.033539,84.199219&ie=UTF8&ll=52.835958,-6.924477&spn=0.044695,0.1157&t=h&z=13&om=1

davidoco

Victor wrote: »

Can we have some indication of where it is?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=carlow+ireland&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=58.033539,84.199219&ie=UTF8&ll=52.835958,-6.924477&spn=0.044695,0.1157&t=h&z=13&om=1

The road in question joins the Hacketstown Road to the roundabout on the N9 at IDA Business Park,Big Blue Barn, etc. That is about a mile out from town on the N9 towards the proposed intersection with the new bypass at Prumplestown (near Castledermot) which is a further two miles on.

There are two relatively small industrial estates on the Hacketstown Road at Pollerton which I can only assume they are trying to give access to the N9.

Zoom in to a 1000ft on that map and you will see the Hacketstown Road on the map in the southeast corner of town together with the new roundabout on the N9. Obviously the new bypass is not on the map but it joins the N9 between Barnhill East and West close to Castledermot.

Kipperhell

It is pretty normal for people to say "Only in Ireland" to such stories but this appears to be a typical reaction from people who don't understand or simply all people who mistrust their government and services. If you travel a bit you will hear people say the same about where they come from. In the many countries I have been I have seen many structures and monuments that were never completed due to ownership and cost factors. Nothing uniquely "Irish" about it, it seems to be just a human trait or more likely due to difficulty of the management of people and tasks being complex.

Mr.Micro

Kipperhell wrote: »

It is pretty normal for people to say "Only in Ireland" to such stories but this appears to be a typical reaction from people who don't understand or simply all people who mistrust their government and services. If you travel a bit you will hear people say the same about where they come from. In the many countries I have been I have seen many structures and monuments that were never completed due to ownership and cost factors. Nothing uniquely "Irish" about it, it seems to be just a human trait or more likely due to difficulty of the management of people and tasks being complex.

No Kipperhell you are being too kind, its Carlow we are talking about .Apathy and incompetence rule.There is a piece about it in the Nationalist newspaper to-day and its a little more complicated than we first thought.

Kipperhell

Mr.Micro wrote: »

No Kipperhell you are being too kind, its Carlow we are talking about .Apathy and incompetence rule.There is a piece about it in the Nationalist newspaper to-day and its a little more complicated than we first thought.

Oh I am quite sure they are all things you say they are I am just saying it is not unusual and not uniquely Irish.

Most countries have similar. There was a big problem with the land being leased for the London Eye last year is that an "only in Ireland" situation too?

Mr.Micro

Kipperhell wrote: »

Oh I am quite sure they are all things you say they are I am just saying it is not unusual and not uniquely Irish.

Most countries have similar. There was a big problem with the land being leased for the London Eye last year is that an "only in Ireland" situation too?

Yes Kipperhell, are correct,it happens in every country ,I am just mad at Carlow really.

andyl222

hahahah so very typical, the county councils are a joke.....unrelated to this particular topic, on the news the other night the reader mentioned an accident in a one-way cul de sac...... how can a cul-de-sac be one way only????

MOH

Ishmael wrote: »

Its Just a second inner relief road that happens to finish pretty close to the M9 bypass.

Its similar to the other relief road that was built at the back of the Fairgreen shopping center.

If it's well surfaced road ending in the middle of nowhere it could end up being used regularly for a different form of relief

baztard

Wasn't there some motorway in Poland that was to run from East to West across the whole country. To save time they started building at both ends and were meant to meet in the middle. But they screwed up somewhere and the joining parts of the road ended up 35km or so apart.

Spook_ie

Wasn't the Assistant County Manager for Carlow once appointed as the Taxi Regulator, he fecked off from that job as well when it started going tits up

Cork Skate

What's happening with this now anyone know?

Ruu

Thread is from 2007.