Nikon D80 Flash Kits

barryi200

I have a D80 - and im looking for a very good flash kit for same. I mainly take pictures of fast moving objects i.e. rally cars etc. What would one recommend in terms of flash kits. Been looking at the speedlight kits but i dont know much about them. Anyone here like to share there views on flash kits?

thks
BArry

quilmore

I'd recomend the SB600, great flash


BTW, I have one for sale on adverts.ie :rolleyes: (http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=38530)

bradnailer

I have a Nikon D70s and a Nikon SB 600, it's a great flash. It can be used off camera with a internal remote setup no cables etc required. Haven't used it taking fast moving objects but I don't see why it wouldn't do the job. Simple manual controls.
At the time I got mine I read reviews on the 600 "V" 800 It seemed to me that for the differences it wasn't worth the extra money for the 800

Paddy@CIRL

Just to put a mad thought into your head, what about buying faster glass instead of a flash ?

barryi200

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

Just to put a mad thought into your head, what about buying faster glass instead of a flash ?

paddy whats faster glass all about?? not too upto date with latest bits and pieces etc. with cameras!!
does faster glass have any benefits in quality if it was used just for daylight pictures aswell?

Are you using it? is it costly?

pete4130

Faster Glass means wider apertures (like f2.8 or f1.8 etc....) throughout the zoom range (most kit lenses apertures get smaller, thus allowing less light in as you zoom in).
The more light the lens lets it the faster the shutter speed you can use. Faster lenses do cost more as its better quality glass. Wider apertures do let more light into the camera when using flash.

Thirdfox

Yes, faster glass is much much much more expensive than a new flash (usually). Compare the 70-200VR f2.8 versus the SB-600...

I have a SB600 on my D40 and find it really handy (you'll have the additional function of wireless flash with the D80 too).

Irish prices are really high compared to the US or Hong Kong - I got mine new for €180 (whereas I've seen them being advertised for €330 in camera shops here!)

The "speed" of a lens is determined by the largest aperture it can achieve (kit lens at 55mm is f5.6 - the 70-200 f2.8 can be f2.8 at even 200mm and f2.8 is 4 times as fast as f5.6)

I seem to be a bit unclear though...here's an example - take a 50mm lens:
at f5.6 shutter speed for a particular scene may be 1/15th of a second
for that same scene if you used f2.8 the shutter speed would be 1/60th of a second (4x faster)

but with a flash you're basically taking a picture at the speed of 1/1000th of a second as the motion is *stopped* by the brief flash of light from the flash.

PopeBuckfastXVI

I've put in my order for the SB600 (the order is with my mammy, for christmas!).

I have a d80 and am I right in thinking that in wireless mode the on camera flash doesn't have to be fired to fire the SB600?

Thirdfox

I thought the onboard had to fire to activate the wireless (but that it can fire before the shutter release and hence not affect the photo?)

But I'll let someone who owns one answer the question properly.

barryi200

so my AF-S VR 70-300mm f4.5 - 5.6G IF-ED lens doesnt have this faster glass?? my apologies but im not techinically minded in terms of this aperature/shutter speeds etc..

can the glass in the lens mentioned above be upgraded to this faster glass or would i have to buy a new lens that has it fitted already etc?

looking to do a course that relates to the nikon camera range like similiar ones they do in dublin on the canon range... anyone got any course details within Cork?

I noticed the price ranges between europe and the states alright.:eek:

Paddy@CIRL

What your 70-300 F4.5-5.6 says that at 70mm the widest aperture your lense can shoot at is F4.5. Then at 300mm the widest it can shoot is at f5.6

For motorsport, you should be looking at f2.8 lenses. f2.8 allows you to leave more light into the camera, giving you a faster shutter speed !

bradnailer

PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »

I've put in my order for the SB600 (the order is with my mammy, for christmas!).

I have a d80 and am I right in thinking that in wireless mode the on camera flash doesn't have to be fired to fire the SB600?

you can fire the flash with a test button off camera, when you have it set up to operate in remote it fires when the shutter is released, i think you need the 800 to use more then one flash off camera and the 600 can be used as a slave.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb600vs800.htm

barryi200

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

What your 70-300 F4.5-5.6 says that at 70mm the widest aperture your lense can shoot at is F4.5. Then at 300mm the widest it can shoot is at f5.6

For motorsport, you should be looking at f2.8 lenses. f2.8 allows you to leave more light into the camera, giving you a faster shutter speed !

What do you use with motorsport shots? Seen some of your pics on other sites?

RoryW

barryi200 wrote: »

..... whats faster glass all about?? ...... is it costly?

now there is an understatement:D

RoryW

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

For motorsport, you should be looking at f2.8 lenses. f2.8 allows you to leave more light into the camera, giving you a faster shutter speed !

if tempted....

Telephoto AF-S Nikkor 300mm f/2.8G AF-S ED-IF VR (Vibration Reduction) Autofocus Lens only $4299 + taxes + VAT etc at B&H

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/364708-GREY/Nikon_2154_300mm_f_2_8_G_AFS_ED_IF.html

the 300 f4 is $1125 so you se the effect the f stop has on price

and the 400mm 2.8[/URL] is "only" $6999 + taxes + VAT etc :eek:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/234173-GREY/Nikon_2127_Telephoto_AF_S_Nikkor_400mm.html


i wouldnt even want to think what the prices are in Ireland ::eek::(

RoryW

RoryW wrote: »

i wouldnt even want to think what the prices are in Ireland ::eek::(

but i did look on conns cameras website and

300 2.8 €4,815
400 2.8 €12,522.68 (they may knock off the 68 cent though!)

barryi200

mad money!

Hugh_C

bradnailer wrote: »

I have a Nikon D70s and a Nikon SB 600, it's a great flash. It can be used off camera with a internal remote setup no cables etc required.

Hi bradnailer,

Does this require an additional piece of kit to work remotely without cables? I'm thinking if getting an SB600

Thirdfox

No additional kit needed with the D70s and above (D40 and D50 does not support this).

Benster

Thirdfox wrote: »

I thought the onboard had to fire to activate the wireless (but that it can fire before the shutter release and hence not affect the photo?)

But I'll let someone who owns one answer the question properly.

I have an SB600 and you can use it remotely/wirelessly no problem. Not sure about the D80, but the D200 needs to fire it's on-camera flash first to send a data-burst to the remote unit (that's Commander mode). The on-camera flash can be configured to either appear or not appear in the actual shot after this data-burst flash.

I haven't used more than one flash like this, but I recall from the SB600 manual that it may take an SB800 to be used to accomplish this.

B.

quilmore

I think you can have up to 3 SB600 on command, but they will all flash at the same setting (but each will be light balanced by the TTL in-camera)
if you have an sb800 to command you can have 4 groups of up to 3 flahes each and each group can have a different setting