Another angle shoot question.

connie147

Ok. I'm not sure if any of you have come across this before. Presumably ye have,what I want to know is if there a rule covering it,or is it just downright bad etticate.(angle shooting).
Player in my club has a habit of following on from when he makes a pretty large bet,while his opponnent is in the tank considering a genuine tough decision,he declares hes prepared to go all in.(I understand thats table talk and nothing much can be done about it). But tonite,I considered his actions to have gone too far. While his opponent was in the tank considering what to do when faced with a large river bet,the player concerned added to the table talk by pushing the rest of his stack in on top of his bet while the opponnent was in the tank.
I was called to the table and he couldnt see what he had done wrong!! I made him remove his chips from the middle and explained to the player in the tank that he only had to call the original river bet if he wanted,and he still had the option of reraising if he liked. I told the offending player this conduct was unacceptable and put him on a warning.

Please tell me I'm not overstepping my authority here.I consider that to be angleshooting and it shouldnt be put up with.Am I right?

Lex

Yes. wp. Penalty for a future similar offense.

Free$$$$$

connie147 wrote: »

Ok. I'm not sure if any of you have come across this before. Presumably ye have,what I want to know is if there a rule covering it,or is it just downright bad etticate.(angle shooting).
Player in my club has a habit of following on from when he makes a pretty large bet,while his opponnent is in the tank considering a genuine tough decision,he declares hes prepared to go all in.(I understand thats table talk and nothing much can be done about it). But tonite,I considered his actions to have gone too far. While his opponent was in the tank considering what to do when faced with a large river bet,the player concerned added to the table talk by pushing the rest of his stack in on top of his bet while the opponnent was in the tank.
I was called to the table and he couldnt see what he had done wrong!! I made him remove his chips from the middle and explained to the player in the tank that he only had to call the original river bet if he wanted,and he still had the option of reraising if he liked. I told the offending player this conduct was unacceptable and put him on a warning.

Please tell me I'm not overstepping my authority here.I consider that to be angleshooting and it shouldnt be put up with.Am I right?

tbh if his opponent is only thinking about calling it hardly makes any difference , or have I missed something.

You could of course rule that he can call the original bet but all chips must remain in the pot......;););)

ZZR1100

there is a similar thread on this in rules / rulings
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055181810
Is not the first time this player has done this and tbh i dont see much wrong with it as he is only setting himself up.Of course the player he is against only has to call the original bet so he is not at any disadvantage. If anything he has an advantage as if he has a real hand, he has the other players chips in the pot already.
he does this to make his bet look more convincing if the other player looks like he might call and is usually a bluff ( but not always) and ive seen him lose his stack doing this before so why take away the rope

RoundTower

it's not a big deal, just a nuisance, so warn him based on that.

Johnny Hughes

You did the right thing. It is a big deal because it can anger the customers, just like in any other business. If the house put up with this, I would look upon them as weak.
Johnny Hughes