recent worldchampionships ,beijing

wudangclan

video on youtube of some irish fighter at 9th world wushu championships in beijing.
how is this guy representing ireland???people should be more responsible.a`world championship is not the place for a tryout.
hope the guy is ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlXT42kHmpk

Nothingcompares

Who are you?

Man, that's the worse knockout I've ever seen. The only guy I know that does san-shou is Niall Keane he might know more. Did Fianna fight in this type of event before too? I respect everyone that steps up and has a go in a competitive environment. The clip is edited so I can't really judge but the guy in black is clearly the superior.

Dawei

Both of the guys were not trained well. Seems to me it was not like a sanshou fight at all. Very few take downs, and the speed was not fast enough.

wudangclan

the guy in black has trained at muay thai or some kickboxing maybe ,not so much at sanshou,but the other guy is just a lamb to the slaughter

arybvtcw0eolkf

Both look like novices, very poor fight and a lucky kick.

Boring.

Fozzy

I'm guessing that the fighting area isn't usually raised like that, right? Before I saw the knockout I was thinking that it was a bit more dangerous than it needed to be, kinda like at Old Trafford where the pitch is raised and any player who ends up falling over at the touchline often hurts themselves more badly than they would if the surface wasn't raised

Dawei

The fighting are is like that. In fact it is called LEI TAI(擂台）， traditionally fighters would compete on a even higher lei tai.

Roper

That lad shouldn't have been there and the fight should have been stopped long before that. Lamb to the slaughter alright. He was trying jumping backfists and everything- real points sparring stuff and obviously ill informed and unprepared for that event. When things like that happen it just gives armoury to people that want combat sports banned.

arybvtcw0eolkf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlXT42kHmpk

If you listen, audience members are actually laughing at both 'fighters' (term used very loosly).

Guy in red looks like he's had a few weeks very basic training (at most), the black lad looks just a little more experienced and confident but not a whole lot.

[I bet I wasn't the only one here who laughed at the K.O. and how the lad tumbled off the stage]

Dawei

They probably have trained for a long time, but I don't think they trained very day. From my own experience , if a person trains 1 month intensively with a good trainer, the fight would look much better

wudangclan

hello dawei
do you do much sparring in your class,how much and is it full contact??

Dawei

wudangclan wrote: »

hello dawei
do you do much sparring in your class,how much and is it full contact??

Not just yet, but that is what my class is mainly for. I will be doing in two weeks time,

buck65

I thought the guy in black did ok for novice/intermediate level, I reckon I would give him more of a fight though and I'm only training TKD for 2 years. Surely against a tall guy like that one should close the gap and tie him up? Nice knockout kick.

wudangclan

thank you dawei for all info.
wont be able to make it for a couple of weeks but i will drop down.
carmichael house,is that just past the courthouse??

Niall Keane

"Man, that's the worse knockout I've ever seen. The only guy I know that does san-shou is Niall Keane he might know more."

This guy is nothing to do with Wudang Sanshou.
In 2005 I asked the IWUF if I could compete at a world, as I could not get a reply from the irish rep, no Irish team existed, so what he represented I'm not sure of. I did after persistant attempts get a reply via the european president that the IWUF do not deal with individuals. So I entered the IMAF competition, who don't expect you to jump through rings to get involved with what they're doing. end result - the IMAF had 67 countries competing, the IWUF 65. IMAF had pro-sanshou rules and shuai jaoi wrestling, IWUF - amateur rules and pretty froms. I think people especially fighters are getting a little tired of the polotics in IWUF. This comp was an IWUF competition, so whoever entered would have to know the secret handshake.
A few months prior to this comp. the coach of this Representative of Irish San shou complained to me via email that I was engaging my students in illegal fighting, and telling me that he had heard that I had broken one of their arms etc. I explained that the accusations were false that an injury had taken place some months before, and such things will happen from time to time when one trains for full contact competition. I further mentioned that I had fought throughout Europe and at world level in both amateur and pro-san shou, and that I knew at this stage the kind of training required for competing internationally. I added that it would be remiss of me to allow a student go and fight internationally in amateur or semi-pro san shou as they do, whithout making sure that they could properly handle it.
I guess my point has been proved, I truely feel sorry for the Irish lad, who I hear later received 15 stiches. I believe that he had less than 5 full contact fights before this world event. The swiss guy, is nothing flash, but I know him and his gym, my self and my students meet them regularly at the Euro-Sanda events. Although not the most inspiring san shou fighter, I can vouch that he can hit hard. All he seemed to practice when I was invited to visit his instructors gym was that kick on thai pads, and iron fist gung on a steel ballbearing filled heavy bag. But those guys like my students participate at several comps a year, having p to 6 fights at a competition. Do the maths, if fighting was so easy that you could win a world title after a handfull of bouts who would bother?