Pat is Crap. Discuss

milmo

Just saw Russell Brand on the Late Late and now he's on Jonathon Ross. He was plugging his book on each.

There aren't many opportunities to conduct a direct compare and contrast session with a late late guest being on another channel an hour later so I'll make hay while the sun shines.

If ever there was a doubt about Pat Kenny's unsuitability for light entertainment this was the proof. Pat wanted a "prime time" meets "six one" meets "a prayer at bedtime" forensic examination of his drug habit, sex addiction etc. and seemed put out that Brand tried to lower the tone. I wanted to do heroin by the end to numb the pain.

Jonathon Ross's interview did what it sad on the tin by briefly helping me forget my own sad life watching the late late whilst simulatneously being on the internet on a Friday night.

I can only presume Pat is on a retainer from the VFI for helping encourage people hit the pubs of a Friday!

Basq

Do we need another 'Pat Is Crap' discussion? It's a bit of a no-brainer!

phasers

I watched Boyzone and promptly switched off

Gauge

It was pretty funny though, he was not able for Russel Brand at all.

Basq

To be honest, Pat's average guest is more intelligent, more confident and more aware than he is.

Russell Brand was just too much for him. Pat's brain can't seem to handle anything other than yes / no answers.

Fast_Mover

Wish they got new people to interview atleast..they've already has Jordan and Tommy Tiernan on several times before..*yawn*

Wishbone Ash

milmo wrote: »

Just saw Russell Brand on the Late Late and now he's on Jonathon Ross. He was plugging his book on each

Presumably Ross is pre recorded as Brand was on his way to the Olympiá?

copasetic

was half watching then brand interview in the pub & even though I couldn't hear the conversation, you just got the feeling that pat had never heard of russell, never heard his radio show (which isone of the funniest podcasts out there) or seen his act (poor). is he lazy, are the reaserchers just drawing a wage or are RTE just so out of touch it is comical in its own right. I dont want to even start on the planks usual trick of trying to make a guest cry on camera - asking harrington if he thought his dad was watching him winning the Open- cheap shot. tommy was tommy, doing a free 10 min piece of his show for promotion, as if he needed to sell seats at this stage.

dulpit

Question: Do people bash Kenny because they genuinely dislike him or because it's the fashionable thing to do?

There does seem to be a culture here on boards where people follow a trend repeatedly with no real reason for themselves to say it...

Dont be at yourself

Answer: Because he's an absolute plank.

This isn't a case of the Emperor's New Clothes, everybody can see that he's a personality black-hole.

DublinWriter

dulpit wrote: »

Question: Do people bash Kenny because they genuinely dislike him or because it's the fashionable thing to do?

In fairness, he's good with the political/current affairs type-stuff.

But he's no 'Mr.Saturday Night'. RTE shoe-horned him into this position as they didn't bring-up any younger talent to replace Gay Byrne.

But the vast sums of money paid to him, Tubridy and Duffy are a joke. Most of that lot would just about make it as weathermen on a UK regional TV channel.

lodgepole

In fairness though, an interview with Jonothan Ross is always going to look more comfortable because they're mates and work together.

It was very strange at the end when Pat was holding his arm though...

Utopia Parkway

milmo wrote: »

Just saw Russell Brand on the Late Late and now he's on Jonathon Ross. He was plugging his book on each.

There aren't many opportunities to conduct a direct compare and contrast session with a late late guest being on another channel an hour later so I'll make hay while the sun shines.

If ever there was a doubt about Pat Kenny's unsuitability for light entertainment this was the proof. Pat wanted a "prime time" meets "six one" meets "a prayer at bedtime" forensic examination of his drug habit, sex addiction etc. and seemed put out that Brand tried to lower the tone. I wanted to do heroin by the end to numb the pain.

Jonathon Ross's interview did what it sad on the tin by briefly helping me forget my own sad life watching the late late whilst simulatneously being on the internet on a Friday night.

I can only presume Pat is on a retainer from the VFI for helping encourage people hit the pubs of a Friday!

I think it's when interviewing people like Russell Brand that Pat's limitations are exposed and you begin to understand all the "wooden" and "plank" accusations thrown at him. He didn't seem to have a clue how to interview Brand or what to ask him. The whole thing was hilariously stilted and felt a bit awkward.

Brand was there for a laugh and a bit of light relief but Pat interviewed him like he was the Minister for Finance on budget day.

Not a knock on Pat as he does curent affairs really well but he just seems so uncomfortbale with the light stuff.

moe_sizlak

im going to stand up for pat here , i watched both interviews with russell brand last night on both the late late and johnathan ross and while pat looked extremly uncomfortable , even johnathan ross is made look like a stuffed shirt when russell brand is on , johnathan ross is a loose fun guy but he always stops short of stepping over the edge of zanniness into insanity

russell brand while hilarious in parts is a complete headcase and will make anyone look wooden so perhaps we should give pat a break

even tommy tiernan came across as relativly normal after brand

Dave!

basquille wrote: »

Russell Brand was just too much for him. Pat's brain can't seem to handle anything other than yes / no answers.

To be fair, Russell Brand is a bit hard for anyone to handle! Conducting an interview with him is like herding cats! He just doesn't follow the conventional style of "conversation" His last (before this weekend) appearance on Jonathon Ross was great, but Russell is nuts! lol. Funny though.

Watching JR now actually, so will see Russell shortly...

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Not a knock on Pat as he does curent affairs really well but he just seems so uncomfortbale with the light stuff.

True, it's like hearin your da singing along to the latest hits on the radio....

BLITZ_Molloy

The likes of Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy have major position at RTE not because they're talented, good looking or charming. They're there because they have neck and are related to people in powerful positions at the station.

Pat Kenny is a newsreader. He shouldn't be in a presenting or interviewing position. This is a mistake RTE make again and again. Look at how they're trying to shoehorn Grainne Sheoige into a similar role.

They're also pushing the comedians of the Panel into larger roles than they're really capable of handling. They all started well but are beginning to suffer from overexposure, and the crucial anchor that was Dara O'Brien is getting little airtime so the show is beginning to get increasingly childish.

And that's the main crux of the issue. RTE can't afford to hang onto any real talent because anybody who's actually good enough to make a success of themselves is going to jump ship to UK television. Look at the money Graham Norton raked in at Channel 4 or the BBC. He'd be mad to waste any time and effort on RTE. Ditto Dara O'Brien.

Irish Radio is in the same mess. They spend entire afternoons eulogising George Best or Charlie Haughey and wonder why their audience is mainly made up of 50somethings who only make up 12% of Irelands population. And then they wonder why the ratings are dropping.

If they wanted a good, realtively cheap and conventional new host for The Late Late, they should get Marian Finucane or maybe even Dave Fanning who's proved to be an excellent interviewer in the past on the movie show.

TJJP

Who's Pat Kenny?

cashback

Did anyone else think Tommy Tiernan was brutal. That joke about the female suicide bomber was, bad taste aside, just not a bit funny.

Pat laughing like a drain everytime he opened his mouth of course.

Pigman II

cashback wrote: »

Did anyone else think Tommy Tiernan was brutal. That joke about the female suicide bomber was, bad taste aside, just not a bit funny.

Pat laughing like a drain everytime he opened his mouth of course.

Tiernan is the most over rated piece of shít in Irish entertainment. In fact I'd rather watch Pat Kenny do stand-up for an hour. At least I could laugh at him if I didn't manage to laugh with him

sudzs

I was wondering if perhaps Justine Delaney-Wilson should have been interviewing Tommy Tiernan, rather then PK??!!

moe_sizlak

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

The likes of Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy have major position at RTE not because they're talented, good looking or charming. They're there because they have neck and are related to people in powerful positions at the station.

Pat Kenny is a newsreader. He shouldn't be in a presenting or interviewing position. This is a mistake RTE make again and again. Look at how they're trying to shoehorn Grainne Sheoige into a similar role.

They're also pushing the comedians of the Panel into larger roles than they're really capable of handling. They all started well but are beginning to suffer from overexposure, and the crucial anchor that was Dara O'Brien is getting little airtime so the show is beginning to get increasingly childish.

And that's the main crux of the issue. RTE can't afford to hang onto any real talent because anybody who's actually good enough to make a success of themselves is going to jump ship to UK television. Look at the money Graham Norton raked in at Channel 4 or the BBC. He'd be mad to waste any time and effort on RTE. Ditto Dara O'Brien.

Irish Radio is in the same mess. They spend entire afternoons eulogising George Best or Charlie Haughey and wonder why their audience is mainly made up of 50somethings who only make up 12% of Irelands population. And then they wonder why the ratings are dropping.

If they wanted a good, realtively cheap and conventional new host for The Late Late, they should get Marian Finucane or maybe even Dave Fanning who's proved to be an excellent interviewer in the past on the movie show.

unless lucifer himself is in charge at montrose , i doubt there is anyone evil enough to inflict marian finucane upon the nation at 9.30 pm friday evenings

DublinWriter

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

The likes of Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy have major position at RTE not because they're talented, good looking or charming. They're there because they have neck and are related to people in powerful positions at the station.

That's not only true of RTE, it's truer again of the small cliquè that is Irish media (especially print) and even truer again of Ireland as a whole. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Welcome to Ireland, regular flights to the UK and US are now available cheaply.

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

If they wanted a good, realtively cheap and conventional new host for The Late Late, they should get Marian Finucane or maybe even Dave Fanning who's proved to be an excellent interviewer in the past on the movie show.

Neither are cheap and both are way past their sell-by date, although credit to MF where it's due as she's rejuvenated two usually dead-weekend Radio slots.

Anyone worth their salt in media in this country fecks off to the UK PDQ. You can trace it right up from Wogan through to the two Grahams - Linehan and Norton.

Even Gaybo himself failed the auditions for the first series of the Late Late Show and went to work for Granada in Manchester for a couple of years in the 60's. In his autobiography he says that the reason he failed the first time around in hosting the Late-Late was because management at RTE said that he "was too good". Says it all about RTE really.

copacetic

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

The likes of Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy have major position at RTE not because they're talented, good looking or charming. They're there because they have neck and are related to people in powerful positions at the station.

So who are tubridy and kenny related to exactly?

Pigman II

copacetic wrote: »

So who are tubridy and kenny related to exactly?

I think they were both born of the same acorn.

Mental Mickey

RTE's only decent programme is "Reeling In The Years", and that's made up of constant repeats.

ferdi

Bring Back Bibi.

ferdi

oh my god, have yiz seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYvB25-qPK4&feature=related

Gay in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnUWzrAhDc

philstar

i quite enjoyed the russell brand interview, it was a clash of cultures...essentric englishman meets conservative irishman.

cut pat some slack will ya,

personally i think they should simply call it the pat kenny show, cause the late late belongs to gaybo and people keep comparing the current show with old one which was made in a completely different era.

Santa Claus

BLITZ_Molloy wrote: »

The likes of Pat Kenny and Ryan Tubridy have major position at RTE not because they're talented, good looking or charming. They're there because they have neck and are related to people in powerful positions at the station.

I didn't know Pat had a relative in RTE...His dad was a zoo keeper so maybe he was good friends with bosco !

Now Gerry "5 chins" Ryan was best pals with charlie haugheys sons and just happened to get a job in the state broadcaster....but i'm sure that was just coincidence !

Pigman II

philstar wrote: »

personally i think they should simply call it the pat kenny show .

I'd still prefer "Knowing Me Knowing You with Pat Kenny"

mike65

DublinWriter wrote: »

Anyone worth their salt in media in this country fecks off to the UK PDQ. You can trace it right up from Wogan through to the two Grahams - Linehan and Norton.

Eamon Andrews got there first.

Kenny is Current Affairs 100%, he's only doing the LLS at this point cos RTE dare not let the brand whither and die (or jump ship to TV3/TnG) and its a nice little earner. Its a pity cos on the radio he is for the most part very capable. Dara for the LLS? Could RTE afford him

Mike.

SprostonGreen

Pat Kenny is his LLS role is very Partrige-esque which is brilliant!

The problem is that he used to do Kenny Live before the LLS, which is kind of what Tubridy does now. He's more suited to light hearted interviews than "issues" on the LLS.

I enjoyed the Russell Brand interview, I'm a Brand fan. PK tried hard at the drugs questions but Russell is hard to interview so he struggled.

So is Pat crap? No, its just he shouldnt be doing the LLS, and the LLS should have ended in 1999.

Santa Claus

mike65 wrote: »

he's only doing the LLS at this point cos RTE dare not let the brand whither and die

When Gaybo presented it, I thought it was the longest running chat show but now that I think about it maybe Gaybo was the longest running host.

Either way as Mike says, it'd be a brave DG who decides to axe it from the scheduele....companies pay a fortune to advertise during the LLS break and give away stuff to the audience !

It could be worse, at one point they thought about Joooooooooe Duffy as a replacement for Gaybo....now that would be painful !!!!

lostexpectation

the late late interview was better but then thats cos JR talks to much (about himself), russell brand had plenty of good answers for pat so it went okay, tiernan was a bit off, trying too hard last night but it was funny when he told everyone who mightent like him to switch off! and then we had all these messages down the bottom of the screen saying how he was being unfair to priests etc.... tiernan gave his backing to savage as a great comedian???

it was another lame rehearsed interview with a comedian, where the interviewers asks so men and women eh??? just off the cuff like... terrible do stand up or chat about his latest show either or...

tiernan was being very rude just like mcsavage last week, instead of taking him up on this PK just laughed like he liked them humour... fawn fawn


daniel craig didn't seem too comfortable on JR, just nodded and smiled.

BaZmO*

SprostonGreen wrote: »

The problem is that he used to do Kenny Live before the LLS, which is kind of what Tubridy does now. He's more suited to light hearted interviews than "issues" on the LLS.

So you're saying that Pat is suited to the "light stuff" rather than the "issues"?
Do you actually watch the show?

Santa Claus wrote: »

Either way as Mike says, it'd be a brave DG who decides to axe it from the scheduele....

It would be an extremely stupid DG that axed it tbh. The LLS has one of the biggest viewing figures on RTE.

lostexpectation wrote: »

tiernan was a bit off, trying too hard last night

I'm a fan of Tommy Tiernan but that interview was embarrassing. It was like looking at a kid trying to embarrass their parents by saying rude words. He's a much better comedian than that. I suppose he could be forgiven due to the fact he just come off stage. And hopefully that's also the reason why he said McSavage was a great comedian.

lostexpectation wrote: »

daniel craig didn't seem too comfortable on JR, just nodded and smiled.

Could you blame him? Himself and Russell Brand just took the p1ss out of him the whole time. I think he was just really embarrassed by the time he came out to be interviewed.

BLITZ_Molloy

Tiernan is going through a bit of a rough patch. Saw his standup a month ago and it was seriously off. He needs to take a year out or something. 30 minutes of his routine was just making bad jokes about disabled people and mocking people who walked out. Not that I can't appreciate some shock humour but it wasn't very good shock humour so it just came off as desperate.

fits

First time ever I saw Brand ( I live in two channel land). Wow he is very funny. What a character. I didnt think the interview was too bad, although as a rule I'm not a huge fan of Kenny on the LLS. I think he is very good on the morning radio though.

Where would I find Brand's podcast?

aidan_walsh

http://www.google.com/search?q=Russel+Brand+podcast