How about once a QUARTER we do...

Fallschirmjager

just a thought and i would be interested in opinions..

since we have a number of sites now, there is a possibility that some players will never meet people from other regions of the country

how about once a quarter we all try to goto one of the sites and see can we organise 1 huge game...?

by my guesstimate we have the guts of 100 people playing on a saturday across the sites...now imagine that number playing in one game?

i realise some of the sites might be stretched with this size, and it would take a lot of organisation, objective setting etc but it would allow us to do more complicated longer games and still have plenty of action..and it would supply support to some of the newer sites...

maybe once a quarter is too much, that i am not too sure of...but it would be excellent fun. might need to travel the night before in some cases.

thougths, suggestions, moans??

Masada

sounds like a cool idea., would love to have a game with that many people in it.,.,

o1s1n

Sounds like a great idea.

A lot of us live a little too far away from sites to go on a regular basis. Would be nice to have something like this to look forward to.

Gatling

how bout a round robin team tournament ,starting at one site and at the end of the year have grand final at another crowning the best Airsoft team in the country,
or each site puts together a team to have organised site v site battles

Alvin T. Grey

Ladies, we'd have to keep it strictly over 18's.

Cheeky monkey

EDIT: didnt think what i said through

Tomazas

Sounds like a good idea, some sort of turney would bring the sport in to the next level for sure. How many teams have you got regulary atending in HRTA?

ED E

Ok, we're looking at a trip to G-Tac from dublin, that could be our first one.

[--SC(+)PE--]

tis a great idea alright.

Gatling

Teams of HRTA
Na Taibhse
The Contractors
Band of Hawks
Mhadrai
Zimmers/Z Corp
Wombles-not official as yet
The Smurfs
,G-Tac and drogheda (post ur teams)

ED E

Dunno if they have any....

Tomazas

Drogheda airsoft:
C.A.P.
but as far as I know another two are in process

kdouglas

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

Ladies, we'd have to keep it strictly over 18's.

why's that then?

Fall: sounds like a good idea, would definitely be up for it myself

ED E

Alvin T. Grey wrote: »

Ladies, we'd have to keep it strictly over 18's.

EHH-UHHH! Not gonna happen. We have already proved we can get in past security:D

Harekin

Dont have to keep the games over 18's,thats just for buying the guns...kids can still come and play with parental consent I thought?

ED E

Yes. We're allowed and you cant stop us. They are bought im my moms name as the paypal is in her name and we've signed the waivers. Its 100% legit. Whats more the young guns could be the ones to keep the required numbers of players up to keep the sites open. On that I had an idea thismorning. HRTA thread i think...

NakedDex

Sounds good alright but I'm not so sure about the round robin team thing. I know there are plenty of teams in the Dublin area that this idea could be viable with but beyond teams based in HRTA, I don't think it would be enough to warrant travelling so far as most of the people in the west aren't in teams yet. (Myself included so there is some bias here)
However, a well organised game every few months would be a excellent idea. It could be made into a series in the fashion Town Assault has been. Come up with a basic story on which to base the objectives and then work through the scenario over the course of the year.

zero19

What about those not in teams? (me lol) if we like organised a bus to these places i'd be up for it for sure

ED E

Could be done, think noip or somebody tried that before...

Alvin T. Grey

kdouglas wrote: »

why's that then?

Fall: sounds like a good idea, would definitely be up for it myself

Consider, heading down Friday, gaming Saturday. Bearing in mind some of the adults at HRTA need adult supervision (or day release passes in many cases) Whos looking after the whippersnappers?

Hivemind187

I understand that some of the older lads might feel uncomfortable shooting with young teenagers. However, they probably havent been shot 6-7 times in a game by Liamo.

Its got nothing to do with physical years and everything to do with how you conduct yourself. Some people are old nimrods and some younger lads have very solid heads on their shoulders, especially for their age - in many cases, what they lack in experience they make up for in intelligence and common sense.

The latter being something a lot of people at both ends of the spectrum could do with a bit more of in every walk of life.

Alvin T. Grey

I don't mind shooting rugrats. In fact I wish I could do it more often and not spend a year inside for it afterwards........sorry, couldn't resist.
It's just, a place like G-Tac is a pain to round trip in a day and skirmish at the same time, and regardless of how sensible the person is, they're not 18. So I suppose the question of who is responsible comes into play.

kdouglas

Alvin: we all know that you meant such a comment in jest, however please do remember that there are others who read this forum who are not part of the airsoft community and may take your comment completely the wrong way

cherubaul

I'm not too gone on the idea of a tournament myself. Personally i think that in an even more competative environment than we already have that non hit taking and other forms of cheating might become more commonplace. That and then you have grudges etc. from competitions spilling over into regular meetings and ruining the athmosphere for all involved.

Gatling

the tournement would happen on a closed day ie sunday ,small teams of five multible tasks to be completed throught the day ,each task completed gains points ,points deducted for regens ,non hit taking and so on,it can actuly lead to better team work by having set goals to be completed as a team,whats wrong with competion ,if anyone wanted to enter that wasnt in a team, names could be put in a hat and every 5 names picked out become a team for the day, so nobody gets left out, remember airsoft is a force on force sport you can still have fun while competing,might be something in it for the winners at the end of day

Alvin T. Grey

Noted and logged KD. - I'm blaming the anti-biotics.

ED E

One sec, heres what the experts said.....

ED E

Ok, sorry, only have my k750i to use so here goes. Bad quality but I think you can read it. Oh, and that event was 11+.

Fallschirmjager

cherubaul wrote: »

I'm not too gone on the idea of a tournament myself. Personally i think that in an even more competative environment than we already have that non hit taking and other forms of cheating might become more commonplace. That and then you have grudges etc. from competitions spilling over into regular meetings and ruining the athmosphere for all involved.

i have to agree with this


and lethal, just because someone says what you want to hear doesnt mean they are an expert...


the real issue is how something like that could be presented on the radio..now please tell me you understand that...for the bazillionth time it is nothing to do with 'taking hits'...what is the obsession people have with that when under 18's are mentioned

Spetzcong

I think you're missing the point Lethal, it's not people saying that they have a problem with younger players, or that they don't want to play with younger players. All the young guns I've played with have conducted themselves with honour, played hard and played well, it's not about that.

The question I think Alvin was asking is who is going to look after the under 18's if we were to go down to G-Tac on an over nighter? I mean the rest of us are going to be busy telling war stories and trying to drink Co. Galway dry, so who is gonna keep an eye on the under 18's?

There's all sorts of child safety implications if there was a lot of under 18 year old players and no responsible adult supervising them. I for one don't want to cop the blame for something happening to a younger player, while I was off drinking my liver into submission in a country pub.

Evolute

cherubaul wrote: »

I'm not too gone on the idea of a tournament myself. Personally i think that in an even more competative environment than we already have that non hit taking and other forms of cheating might become more commonplace. That and then you have grudges etc. from competitions spilling over into regular meetings and ruining the athmosphere for all involved.

Have more people marshalling and then that would only be a minor problem

ED E

Ahh, I see your point. Yeah, well if we're going my dad will be our chauffer and "baby-sitter". Others, i dunno.

Alvin T. Grey

Spetzcong wrote: »

I think you're missing the point Lethal, it's not people saying that they have a problem with younger players, or that they don't want to play with younger players. All the young guns I've played with have conducted themselves with honour, played hard and played well, it's not about that.

The question I think Alvin was asking is who is going to look after the under 18's if we were to go down to G-Tac on an over nighter? I mean the rest of us are going to be busy telling war stories and trying to drink Co. Galway dry, so who is gonna keep an eye on the under 18's?

There's all sorts of child safety implications if there was a lot of under 18 year old players and no responsible adult supervising them. I for one don't want to cop the blame for something happening to a younger player, while I was off drinking my liver into submission in a country pub.

That would be it Spetz.

Fallschirmjager

okay so the general consensus is that its an okay to good idea.

1. contact the three 3 sites we have (Galway,Drogheda and HRTA) to see if they are interested in this
2. i will put up a number of polls over the coming weeks to see how expansive we would like it to be (e.g. 1 long game, 2 or 3 shorter ones).
3. i would propose the teams we have become squads with objectives within two greater competing divisions (for want of a better word)
4. we might need marshals (not too sure how we manage this) without it becoming expensive
5. we need to set a minimum size of people before its a go (not sure on size)
6. i propose we pay the sites beforehand to 'encourage' people to attend and not back out at the last minute (so its a case of turning up on the day)
7. we need to register somehow online
8. we need to get maps of the sites to clearly mark zones
9. we need to share the cars to get to where we are going etc
10. are we limiting ammo (i dont think we are quite ready for milsim yet)?
11. how do we identify teams (do we start to make an effort on people getting 2 sets of bdu's-- no im not talking full rigouts!! ), weapons types?
12. what do we do with cheaters?
13. we need a general in each competing division, colonels etc for objective taking...how do we vote these poor bastards in?
14. over 18's due to the excellent issues alvin and spetz raised
15. whats the name of this first ops?
16. regen...is this an opportunity for medics?
17. the inevitable injuries, how do we manage that, e.g. someone with first aid knowledge per division?
18. we have to follow local rules of each site as thats who you are paying
19. how many mobile gps units do people have, radios ?
20. whats the comms hacking rules?
21. how about first week of april, better weather, time to organise it, etc
22. how big a gamezone do we have and do we need?
23. toilets...

ALSO: NO SPAM ANYMORE...its too difficult for me to pick out the facts..

anything else i forgot here feel free to add it.

MaxForce

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

just a thought and i would be interested in opinions..

since we have a number of sites now, there is a possibility that some players will never meet people from other regions of the country

how about once a quarter we all try to goto one of the sites and see can we organise 1 huge game...?

by my guesstimate we have the guts of 100 people playing on a saturday across the sites...now imagine that number playing in one game?

i realise some of the sites might be stretched with this size, and it would take a lot of organisation, objective setting etc but it would allow us to do more complicated longer games and still have plenty of action..and it would supply support to some of the newer sites...

maybe once a quarter is too much, that i am not too sure of...but it would be excellent fun. might need to travel the night before in some cases.

thougths, suggestions, moans??

excellent idea lets us no and we can organise game this end 100 players plus would be fantastic and we would be able to accommodate any number plus there is rental cottages close to our site so there would be rental accommodation available to people if they wanted to come down the night before .Evelyn

Foxy-07

I belive this is a great idea and hope i can have all my airsoft equipment bought on time. But to the real point what about each site ( HRTA G-TAC drogheada ) is a different battle and and the the winning team is the team that wins the most battles

Fallschirmjager

MaxForce wrote: »

excellent idea lets us no and we can organise game this end 100 players plus would be fantastic and we would be able to accommodate any number plus there is rental cottages close to our site so there would be rental accommodation available to people if they wanted to come down the night before .Evelyn

thanks Evelyn, saves me writing an email !! i might ask hivemind or kdouglas (them being the IAA and Mod here, so will be impartial) to pick a name out of a hat to see where the first one is and then the second and third assuming the other sites want to get involved. but its great to see we have a site that can take the numbers...truly delighted its going so well for you, and if ye are cool on organising it...even better, well for me anyways!!!


Hive and KD, i assume ye are okay doing this and not being blamed for ever more for vote rigging!)

MaxForce

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

okay so the general consensus is that its an okay to good idea.

1. contact the three 3 sites we have (Galway,Drogheda and HRTA) to see if they are interested in this
2. i will put up a number of polls over the coming weeks to see how expansive we would like it to be (e.g. 1 long game, 2 or 3 shorter ones).
3. i would propose the teams we have become squads with objectives within two greater competing divisions (for want of a better word)
4. we might need marshals (not too sure how we manage this) without it becoming expensive
5. we need to set a minimum size of people before its a go (not sure on size)
6. i propose we pay the sites beforehand to 'encourage' people to attend and not back out at the last minute (so its a case of turning up on the day)
7. we need to register somehow online
8. we need to get maps of the sites to clearly mark zones
9. we need to share the cars to get to where we are going etc
10. are we limiting ammo (i dont think we are quite ready for milsim yet)?
11. how do we identify teams (do we start to make an effort on people getting 2 sets of bdu's-- no im not talking full rigouts!! ), weapons types?
12. what do we do with cheaters?
13. we need a general in each competing division, colonels etc for objective taking...how do we vote these poor bastards in?
14. over 18's due to the excellent issues alvin and spetz raised
15. whats the name of this first ops?
16. regen...is this an opportunity for medics?
17. the inevitable injuries, how do we manage that, e.g. someone with first aid knowledge per division?
18. we have to follow local rules of each site as thats who you are paying
19. how many mobile gps units do people have, radios ?
20. whats the comms hacking rules?
21. how about first week of april, better weather, time to organise it, etc
22. how big a gamezone do we have and do we need?
23. toilets...

ALSO: NO SPAM ANYMORE...its too difficult for me to pick out the facts..

anything else i forgot here feel free to add it.

we would be able to supply food through out the day also any time from april on is brillant as weather alot better .evelyn

Fallschirmjager

Foxy-07 wrote: »

I belive this is a great idea and hope i can have all my airsoft equipment bought on time. But to the real point what about each site ( HRTA G-TAC drogheada ) is a different battle and and the the winning team is the team that wins the most battles

good idea on the different battle scenarios...i think if we are talking 100ish, it would descend into a farce if we had 6 or 7 different teams all bickering over start points etc. so perhaps, we could split the existing teams as 'elite' units to provide the backbone to ensure each side has a structure and doesnt just turn into a free for all.

kdouglas

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

okay so the general consensus is that its an okay to good idea.

5. we need to set a minimum size of people before its a go (not sure on size)

personally, i'd say minimum 40-50

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

6. i propose we pay the sites beforehand to 'encourage' people to attend and not back out at the last minute (so its a case of turning up on the day)
7. we need to register somehow online

i can take care of this if you like, shouldnt take long to throw together a registration page

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

11. how do we identify teams (do we start to make an effort on people getting 2 sets of bdu's-- no im not talking full rigouts!! ), weapons types?

depending on the scenario, if it's going to be tango's vs the good guys, then tango's can be tango-style loadouts (i.e. whatever they want) good guys can then be multicam/dpm/acu/digicam/etc...

or you could have all US types of camo vs all german/russian etc.. styles

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

12. what do we do with cheaters?

if your caught not taking hits, it goes against your team, repeated offenders are removed from the competition?

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

13. we need a general in each competing division, colonels etc for objective taking...how do we vote these poor bastards in?

draw straws?

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

15. whats the name of this first ops?

start a suggestions thread and then have a poll?

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

16. regen...is this an opportunity for medics?

if it's going to be a series of long games, i'd say use medics

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

17. the inevitable injuries, how do we manage that, e.g. someone with first aid knowledge per division?

i think between all the sites and players, we should be able to organise first aid, i know both paul and mel at hrta have first aid training anyway

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

18. we have to follow local rules of each site as thats who you are paying
19. how many mobile gps units do people have, radios ?

with the advanced notice, im sure most people can sort out a cheap radio

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

20. whats the comms hacking rules?

technically this cant be stopped, but i'd hope all players would be honest enough to not listen in to other teams frequencies

alternatively, teams can organise channel hopping between themselves

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

21. how about first week of april, better weather, time to organise it, etc

good idea

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

22. how big a gamezone do we have and do we need?

drogheda should be fine as is
havent seen g-tac yet, but i'd imagine it would be grand
hrta should be more filled out by that stage

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

23. toilets...

plenty of bushes around

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

ALSO: NO SPAM ANYMORE...its too difficult for me to pick out the facts..

anything else i forgot here feel free to add it.

Fallschirmjager

thanks KD, some good stuff there...

ED E

I'm really unhappy about number 14. Would it be acceptable we bring the warwagon(aka campervan) and once we're done for the day we'll just watch movies(too knackered to move after a days airsoft) and you can do whatever you want. That seems fair?

Alvin T. Grey

It isn't about being fair LB. It's about being responsible for underage players. Win loose or draw, that's just the way it is. Accidents happen even at the best of times, and they don't necessarily have to be the fault of the minor either.

ED E

Ok, in response to you guys then..Wait, I'll make a thread.

Fallschirmjager

well the good news is both g-tac and hrta are okay for this...still waiting on the last site from drogheda to confirm..i would be suprised if they said no tbh...

cpb

I think this is a great idea falls if you need any help organising sent me a pm and i will do what I can.

Fallschirmjager

cpb wrote: »

I think this is a great idea falls if you need any help organising sent me a pm and i will do what I can.

actually the good news is the sites seem keen to do it. i suppose all the other stuff around it is where the problems arise...getting there, overnight stays etc..

berget 6 this isnt LOL!!!

jinko

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager
23. toilets...

plenty of bushes around

the snipers wont be too happy.... i suppose you could call them mines

Tomazas

jinko wrote: »

plenty of bushes around

the snipers wont be too happy.... i suppose you could call them mines

Do u realy want to crap all over the place? I doubt u will want come back next week.

JOHN MC

just to confirm drogheda airsoft is on for the games
plus there will be a night game on soon more
details in the next week or two

Mrs MaxForce

JOHN MC wrote: »

just to confirm drogheda airsoft is on for the games
plus there will be a night game on soon more
details in the next week or two

great to here all sites are now on board it is of intrest to everyone sites and players alike