Trouble with Piles

decies

I have really bad piles had a scope done to confirm this,i might have to have a operation which i hear is only 50% successfull .
Anybody know anybody who had this and how did they get on ?
Thanks in advance.

tampopo

Eh, I had piles, but sure as heck didn't need a scope to confirm it. I had a scope to look at other things! Got the all clear. (3 annual scopes in all)

Was going to say to see your gp, but if you've gone as far as having had a scope, presumably you've seen a gp.

I cannot help any further but to express an opinion that it shouldn't be too serious. I haven't heard anything about your 50% success rate.

Mr. Presentable

decies wrote: »

I have really bad piles had a scope done to confirm this,i might have to have a operation which i hear is only 50% successfull .
Anybody know anybody who had this and how did they get on ?
Thanks in advance.

My friend had the op. Said the worst thing was the sore throat afterwards :eek:

cudman

I thought it was only a couple of hours where they sprayed something on your arse to freeze the pile then it falls off. Am i wrong?

Rented Mule

cudman wrote: »

I thought it was only a couple of hours where they sprayed something on your arse to freeze the pile then it falls off. Am i wrong?

Here is a list of treatments that I found on Wikipedia

Medical treatments
Some people require the following medical treatments for chronic or severe hemorrhoids:

Rubber band ligation
sometimes called Baron ligation. Elastic bands are applied onto an internal hemorrhoid to cut off its blood supply. Within several days, the withered hemorrhoid is sloughed off during normal bowel movement.

Hemorrhoidolysis/Galvanic Electrotherapy
desiccation of the hemorrhoid by electrical current.

Sclerotherapy (injection therapy) sclerosant or hardening agent is injected into hemorrhoids. This causes the vein walls to collapse and the hemorrhoids to shrivel up.

Cryosurgery
a frozen tip of a cryoprobe is used to destroy hemorrhoidal tissues. Rarely used anymore because of side effects.

Laser, infrared or BICAP coagulation
laser, infrared beam, or electricity is used to cauterize the affected tissues. Lasers are now much less popular. Infrared coagulation has been studied in comparison with RBL and found to be as effective in hemorrhoids up to grade III. These are the most readily available non-surgical procedures in the US.

Hemorrhoidectomy
a true surgical procedure to excise and remove hemorrhoids. Has possible correlation with incontinence issues later in life; in addition, many patients complain that pain during recovery is severe. For this reason is often now recommended only for severe (grade IV) hemorrhoids.

Stapled Hemorrhoidectomy
Also called the procedure for prolapse and hemorrhoids, it is designed to resect soft tissue proximal to the dentate line, which disrupts the blood flow to the hemorrhoids. It is generally less painful than complete removal of hemorrhoids and also allows for faster recovery times. It's meant for hemorrhoids that fall out or bleed and is not helpful for painful outside conditions.

Enema
This Practice is used to clean the rectum. While it is a simple procedure, it can be complicated by hemorrhoids, so in such cases, it should be done by a doctor. In an enema, water is injected into the rectum and then flushed out, cleaning the area.

Doppler Guided Hemorrhoidal Artery Ligation
The only evidence based surgery for all grades of hemorrhoids. It does not involve cutting tissues or even a stay at the hospital; patients are usually back to work on the same day. It is the best treatment for bleeding piles, as the bleeding stops immediately. [20]

dudara

Probably better suited to the Medicine & Biology forum

dudara

Alun

I had a hemorrhoidectomy done many years ago. It was performed under general anaesthetic and I was in hospital for a couple of days. I think some of them were actually inside the anus so that's probably why I had to be operated on properly, rather than use some of the other less intrusive options. The operation was almost 100% successful, but after a year there were still two or three remaining, but these were external ones, and I had these tied (ligated) under local anaesthetic as an outpatient and they just, errm, dropped off.

decies

Alun wrote: »

I had a hemorrhoidectomy done many years ago. It was performed under general anaesthetic and I was in hospital for a couple of days. I think some of them were actually inside the anus so that's probably why I had to be operated on properly, rather than use some of the other less intrusive options. The operation was almost 100% successful, but after a year there were still two or three remaining, but these were external ones, and I had these tied (ligated) under local anaesthetic as an outpatient and they just, errm, dropped off.

Yeah thanks for that the oncoligist gave me powder to take to make me more regular,apparently straining bowel movements are the main cause of it.
I got the bleeding from the backside and a sharp pain once or twice a day just got it ten mins ago :mad:

Loopy

I had very painful piles and had the op to remove them about 2 yrs ago.

It was 100% successful and i haven't had a bother with them since.

Best of luck...

Bethany

Haemorrhoids or common name of Piles are actually varicose veins i.e veins which have lost their elasticity. They are associated with a western low fibre diet. You may end up having surgery and for most people it is successful but if you can avoid it , all the better. Straining when you defecate is a major cause combined with a low fibre diet. By changing your diet to include a lot of fibre,eg. all bran, weetabix, fruit and veg, brown bread, even a spoon of bran added to yoghurt, and by increasing your fluid intake you should find that you can defecate without straining and because your stool is soft you will prevent any tears and so no bleeding. Even if you have the surgery you will need to stick to a diet that has plenty of fibre as not doing so and also delaying the need to go , results in a hard stool , straining and back to square one. Sorry for the details..... but the complaint is a very distressing one ,

Bethany

Forgot to say that if you get an acute attack, obviously you will use the prescribed ointments , most of which have an anti inflammatory effect, but a useful tip is that ice applied to the affected part reduces the swelling!!! If you're desperate you'll try it.

davejones

Bethany wrote: »

Forgot to say that if you get an acute attack, obviously you will use the prescribed ointments , most of which have an anti inflammatory effect, but a useful tip is that ice applied to the affected part reduces the swelling!!! If you're desperate you'll try it.

Yes ice pack FTW.
And for prevention eat an apple a day.

decies

Went into a alternative medicine shop,they recommended horse chestnut tablets which i am taking at the moment.

Alun

I always found the standard over-the-counter creams less than useless tbh.

One of the best I found was one from a Health Food type shop produced by a company called (IIRC) Lanes which contained predominately Witch Hazel .. very soothing, stopped any bleeding immediately and worked like a dream, only they've now discontinued it

I have another one now, from a company called Nelsons that contains Horse Chestnut, Marigold, Witch Hazel and Peony which is almost as good.

decies

Yep wet through all the usual over the counter stuff did no good.Is this the stuff your talking about http://www.nelsonshp.com/shop-online/2528.html

Alun

decies wrote: »

Yep wet through all the usual over the counter stuff did no good.Is this the stuff your talking about http://www.nelsonshp.com/shop-online/2528.html

Yep, that's it alright. (Sorry for the delay in replying, haven't been monitoring this thread!)

rwilson_ie

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but can anyone tell em approx cost of the operation ?

My wife is pregnant and so the piles are very bad at the mo.

I know she can't have the operation during pregnancy but we just want to get an idea on cost so that next year, she can look forward to hopefully getting rid of them

Thanks
Rob

em...they are a side effect of pregnancy which will correct themselves afterward, to the best of my knowledge.

rwilson_ie

She had them a bit before the pregnancy but they got worse since.

So, we're hoping they will clear themselves afterwards - but just in case, we're just looking into options.

Rob

Twinksno1flan

rwilson_ie wrote: »

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but can anyone tell em approx cost of the operation ?

My wife is pregnant and so the piles are very bad at the mo.

I know she can't have the operation during pregnancy but we just want to get an idea on cost so that next year, she can look forward to hopefully getting rid of them

Thanks
Rob

When my mother was pregnant both she and to a lesser extent my father were beside themselves trying to find a cure for piles, my father discovered in a book a cure that didn't and still doesn't make sense but works anyway.

It involves a raw potatoe and a piece of muslin. You mash(liquidise is probably better,keeping all the juice) the RAW potatoe into a mush to get the juice flowing, you then put it in the muslin to get the shape of a sausage placing it right on the external pile. That was on , not in . you do this at night wearing a tightish pair of jocks so as to keep it in place and also as the spud will go black from exposure and make an awful mess if it gets loose. In my mothers case it was gone in the morning but returned towards evening, they applied a new musage that night and it's not been seen since, early sixties is the time frame.

It would be very easy to dismiss this as a joke and you may well do.

My friend who is a racing cyclist tried it an his bad dose disappeared.

jumblemur

I have been reading so many negative post on hemorrhoidectomy until I came across this post. See this post for a very detailed account of a hemorrhoidectomy. Very similar to my own experience. It will take on average two weeks to get relief from pain so keep on top of pain medication and stool softeners. Today on day 16 I am feeling very well though I know it is going to take another week or two to feel any way normal.
ttp://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=556948

Hal Emmerich

Twinksno1flan wrote: »

When my mother was pregnant both she and to a lesser extent my father were beside themselves trying to find a cure for piles, my father discovered in a book a cure that didn't and still doesn't make sense but works anyway.

It involves a raw potatoe and a piece of muslin. You mash(liquidise is probably better,keeping all the juice) the RAW potatoe into a mush to get the juice flowing, you then put it in the muslin to get the shape of a sausage placing it right on the external pile. That was on , not in . you do this at night wearing a tightish pair of jocks so as to keep it in place and also as the spud will go black from exposure and make an awful mess if it gets loose. In my mothers case it was gone in the morning but returned towards evening, they applied a new musage that night and it's not been seen since, early sixties is the time frame.

It would be very easy to dismiss this as a joke and you may well do.

My friend who is a racing cyclist tried it an his bad dose disappeared.

Does this actually work????