English versus Irish papers

brianthebard

Couldn't think of a less adversarial title, but assuming you have a working knowledge of the main Irish papers, and the main english papers, which would you prefer to read? Personally I go for the guardian or the independant, seeing as (a) they are both cheaper than the Irish times/indo, and (b) the quality of journalism is better imo than the irish papers. granted the irish times is fairly well written but it feels a bit too stuffy, middle class and conservative for my liking. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

flogen

I think overall British quality papers have a far higher standard than Irish quality papers (although in fairness they have a far lower quality on the other end too).

Individually, however, I'd go with an Irish paper if I could only buy one or the other, mainly because I want to read about Irish new and most English stories aren't of any interest to me.

OPENROAD

For me I subscibe to the London Evening Standard, Londons Evening newspaper.

Also subscibe to the Daily Mail,which would be the English version as opposed to Irish version on sale here.

Also buy the London Times.

InFront

I read the Irish Times for Irish current affairs and borrow the sports pages from someone else's Irish Independent, which is all that paper is good for.

The Times (UK) and The Guardian are far better publications, but of course they have a substantially larger audience and thus greater funding available to them.

fantasma

The English Daily telegraph on Saturday is an excellent read. Once you get into it (and it is a conservative read )you will now look back.

Property, Travel (Paddy Burd?) and resturaunt reviews by Mark Palmer are above average.

I think the Sunday Irish Times is excellent too, Frank Clarke and Matt Cooper really hit the nail on the head. I think the Irish times is ok and the Independent is below par.

mike65

Sunday Irish Times? Matt Cooper writes for the Sunday Times.

Mike.

fantasma

Apologies.....Sunday Times with Irish lean.

monument

The O'Irish Sunday Times.

Gekko

I'd agree with you in that I read The Guardian online and The Independent every day for business, environmental and political news. Some of the travel stuff is good as well.

I think the quality of these is above any Irish papers. The Irish Independent is a rip-off at €1.70 and in terms of value the Irish Daily Mail is better.

I read a whole load of papers and scan all their websites every day, but then I'm a journalist and something of a news junkie.

A Dub in Glasgo

I buy the Irish Times when I am in London (about once a week). I cannot get an Irish daily here in Glasgow. I buy The (Glasgow) Herald every day which is a good read. I sometimes pick up the Guardian.

Tom Dunne

I actually find the Sunday Times quite good. For the first time ever last week, I read the Financial Times (free in the hotel we were staying in ) and I was well impressed.

I have issues with tabloids and pop culture.

moe_sizlak

fantasma wrote: »

The English Daily telegraph on Saturday is an excellent read. Once you get into it (and it is a conservative read )you will now look back.

Property, Travel (Paddy Burd?) and resturaunt reviews by Mark Palmer are above average.

I think the Sunday Irish Times is excellent too, Frank Clarke and Matt Cooper really hit the nail on the head. I think the Irish times is ok and the Independent is below par.

the telegraph , the paper of middle england as they say , conservative alright but not overtly right wing like say the daily mail or express

Blisterman

I have to say, I find virtually every newspaper here in England very biased. The Times being possibly the only exception.

Actually, now that I think of it. It's not too different to Ireland.

snickerpuss

I read The Irish Times for Irish news and The Times for world/other news with the Sunday Times on weekends.
I sometimes get the Guardian but I think 3 daily newspapers is probably too much. The Irish Times is very ... brief? Very little features in it. Although The Times here has stopped including T2 section now. Argh.

Anyway, couldn't just have the Irish Times.

arbeitsscheuer

I prefer to avoid the Irish papers altogether and just read The Independent. Partly because of the reasons brianthebard pointed out (better quality of journalism etc), but mainly because, in all honesty, it most closely reflects my political ideological leaning. I would be thinking in particular of writers like Robert Fisk, Mark Steel, Johann Hari and so on.

Used to read the Guardian as well but stopped because it was a bit wishy-washy for me, a tad too 'new labour'-esque, if you catch my drift. This was apparently the case for some of the more left-wing writers too, who began to drift to The Independent over the last few years as the Guardian's stance changed. (Funnily enough, it was around this time that the Guardian changed its format as well, a rare case of style echoing substance - it now looks sh*t, and IS sh*t:D)