Chaos fighting championship - website

Jason Mc

http://www.chaosfightingchampionships.com/

The card is nearly finalised for our first show. We have some guys who you will recognise from the MMA circuit and a few guys who have strong traditional martial arts backgrounds stepping up to give it a go.

The tickets are now on sale and the contacts are available on the site. The tickets are also available from the everglades hotel in derry.

We just got a great write up in our local paper so there should be a good turn out of people who may not have been to a MMA show before and I hope to see all of you veterans there as well.

It promises to be a great night.

paddyc

jason

how you doing can you post the figth card please I can access your web site in work thanks mate


paddy

bilbo79

I see there is elbows and knee's to the head on the ground on the rules, pride and ufc only done 1 or the other, i hope the lads doing this are been well payed because this is high risk and deserves to be payed like so..

David Jones

As far as I can tell it says no knees to the head on the ground under any of the rules.

bilbo79

David Jones wrote: »

As far as I can tell it says no knees to the head on the ground under any of the rules.

My bad, no knees on the ground!!

still elbows though...

Jason Mc

I'm looking for a heavyweight semi-pro fighter.

I have a guy from hungary living in ireland looking to give it a go.

He has never fought MMA before.

Anyone interested mail me at jason_mc_cabe@hotmail.com asap

Nothingcompares

Jason Mc wrote: »

I have a guy from hungary living in ireland looking to give it a go.He has never fought MMA before.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade but I think this is what the MMA league is for. Are you expecting people to go to Derry and pay to watch a couple of guys who have never fought before "give it a go", sounds too much like UFC 1 for my liking.

irish fighter

the mma league is there for fighter to move up in class thats why it there
not for guys to jump to full pro rules before they even have chance to learn the sport this is not good for mma in ireland any fighter with mma league fights and i mean top 3 vet should only be fighting full pro rules
and semi pro fights should be only lads that have been fighting in the league and doing well thats my view on this

David Jones

the mma league is there for fighter to move up in class thats why it there
not for guys to jump to full pro rules before they even have chance to learn the sport this is not good for mma in ireland any fighter with mma league fights and i mean top 3 vet should only be fighting full pro rules
and semi pro fights should be only lads that have been fighting in the league and doing well thats my view on this

While I disagree with individuals just having a go. I dont think its necessary to have fought in the MMA league before you have a pro fight. If your standup and ground games plus your cardio / conditioning are up to scratch and your training is as close to fighting as the real thing lots of guys want to fight pro rules, Othewise when it hits the deck it just looks like sub wrestling with body shots only you now have the disadvantage of having gloves on. If someone wants to fight amateur rules first then fine, but I will never recommend it to them nor do I think it a necessity. You can get knocked out or cut in training, albeit at a slightly lower intensity than a real fight but if your fight training is realistic then a pro rules match should put you under no more duress than a training session.

Thats the safety aspect taken care of, and if its how the fight pleases the audience, well I have both reffed and cornered plenty of pro debut fighters with no amateur fights under their belt and in some cases they have been fight of the night. From NG's perspective, Juan Cullen vs Arik from SBG in cuala was a cracker, Charlie flemming debuting against Arik in the last ring of truth was a 3 round showcase, Phil Scollard vs Greg Loughran and Aidan Marron, Paul O Connor vs Mickey Young, were all superb debuts in terms of crowd entertainment. Owen Drummond, Pearce Stokes, Dave Roche the list goes on.

Jason Mc

Nothingcompares wrote: »

I'm not trying to rain on your parade but I think this is what the MMA league is for. Are you expecting people to go to Derry and pay to watch a couple of guys who have never fought before "give it a go", sounds too much like UFC 1 for my liking.

To clarify the lad has 6 years thai boxing and 3 years judo.

Dominic McConnell has 50 amatuer boxing fights with 45 wins
Chris McKendrick is an international judo player
Eugene McCrossan is a jikisin jiu-jitsu champion
We have another lad who we are trying to match up who got the the wako kickboxing world finals

While they might not have been in an mma ring before their pedigree speaks for itself

We aim to develop the sport in our area and it all has to start somewhere.

David Jones

Good Luck with the event Jason, Im sure it will be a great show.

Nothingcompares

I don't think it's essential for anyone to compete in the league before they start fighting at pro/semi-pro but I definitely feel that it's no harm. In the case of Juan and Arik the guys were part of established MMA clubs training in MMA for a significant amount of time and have shown early promise. I think this is different to a couple of lads seeing something on TV and wanting to emulate it, regardless of how much "traditional martial art" training they have.

In the exact same way, I've no interest in seeing two big rugby players have a pro-boxing match either. It just doesn't personally appeal to me.

Bad Dog MMA

I think people are forgetting what MMA stands for! You don't have to have trained in more than one disipline, there's no doubt it will increase your chances of winning and decrease the chances of you geting injured the more prepared you are but the whole idea behind MMA is to pit different styles against each other. Isn't it!?

dlofnep

Bad Dog MMA wrote: »

I think people are forgetting what MMA stands for! You don't have to have trained in more than one disipline, there's no doubt it will increase your chances of winning and decrease the chances of you geting injured the more prepared you are but the whole idea behind MMA is to pit different styles against each other. Isn't it!?

In 1993 it was. In 2007 it's to put hybrid, well balanced fighters against other hybrid well balanced fighters.

goo

Good lad penfold.
Some mad stuff out of people on this topic.

Roper

Jason Mc wrote: »

We aim to develop the sport in our area and it all has to start somewhere.

Indeed, best of luck with the show Jason, I hope it's a success.

Just on some of the comments made about multi and single discipline fighters:

Who's to say that the training in some MMA gyms is up to scratch anyway? I can think of some complete mismatches over the last while involving Irish fighters where one of the fighters was clearly unprepared for a bout and was beaten quite easily, but just because these gyms have a sign over their door saying MMA they get automatic "no criticism" passes on this thread?

Everyone has to start somewhere, for some it's the MMA League and for others it's a pro fight. Myself, I have no interest in watching a mismatch and I think a lot of those could be eliminated if people found their feet in the League first. But Dave is right too, good preparation in the gym can be as good as League experience.

Quick example- Last year at the MMA League I saw guys doing mental stuff like punching UP from bottom mount, (with no head shots allowed) running around (or trying to anyway) their opponents guard and other, elementary mistakes that not even I would make:D. If those guys had have gone straight to pro to give it a shot, MMA would be banned because you'd just see lads getting battered once there were headshots. Invariably they were from clubs like mine- former singe discipline gyms making a move to MMA. Thankfully I've had guidance from SBG since I turned to MMA, but others haven't had the benefit of that sort of experience and think its just a matter of doing some "ground", and I think that comes across in the League. I mean no disrespect to guys who are giving it a shot- I respect that- but if the league wasn't there for these guys, and they went straight to pro, the lessons would have to be very, very severe.

The example of Sternalski versus Cullen has been used, but I think it only stands up as a reason why the League IS necessary- Arik and Juan are both blue belts/shirts in BJJ, they are both trained by two very experienced MMA and grappling coaches, and train in two of the most experienced gyms in the country alongside regular MMA fighters. Not everyone has the benefit of that experience. For my gym, anyone who wants to fight must put in some time in the League.

I don't really post here anymore because of topics like this which I reckon are just the result of boredom on some people's part. I'll sign off by wishing Jason and Chaos the very best of luck with their debut promotion.

Bad Dog MMA

dlofnep wrote: »

In 1993 it was. In 2007 it's to put hybrid, well balanced fighters against other hybrid well balanced fighters.

Yes in a perfect world we'd have evenly matched opponents in well balanced matches but you have to remember MMA is still in its infancy in Ireland. So there are always going to be people new to the sport needing a platform to try out on and if promotions like CFC are willing to give them a chance then more power to them.

goo

He was responding to what you said MMA stands for, not the idea of people moving from specific disciplines in to MMA.

Colm_OReilly

Micky Young vs Michael Devlin? Is this not a massive mismatch?

I saw Michael at the League in Antrim and I've got to say he impressed me. Athletic, eager, showed good talent. But Micky Young has years of experience against Ireland's best and boldest.

Thoughts?

weemate

I think the subject of this match up was brought up to the promoter and he in turn spoke at length to Micheal's coach who assured him that they wanted the fight.I dont know the guy and have never seen him fight so I cant comment on him but I have watched Mickey a fair few times and I think it's a strange fight to take for a first time pro bout.In saying that,Im not the guys coach but I wouldnt have put any of mine against a seasoned fighter on their debut.

Nothingcompares

What a victory for Devlin it would be if he could steal the win though!

mark.leonard

I spoke with his coach, Josie Murray, at the Antrim league about it, and expressed serious reservations about the match-up, but he was quietly confident that Michael has what it takes, as was Michael himself. He has been a standout in his division in the League this year so I am sure it will be a decent fight.

dlofnep

Best of luck with the event. If guys have alot of experience in other various fields like MT and Judo then that doesn't equate them to complete beginners.