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$10,000 Donks. This makes J. Tilly seem sharp.

  • 09-11-2007 4:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭



    World Poker Finals (WPT) Foxwoods Casino

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    An interesting hand came up early in the day on a board of Adiamond.gif Kspade.gif Jheart.gif 10heart.gif Qspade.gif. Schulman moved all in for almost 25,000 into a pot of less than 1,000 and Nguyen quickly called all in behind him.

    Surprisingly, Teddy Adalis folded with the nuts on the board and this prompted a laugh from the table.

    Dobrilovic moved all in behind him and Seat 6 announced that he was all in.

    The action was now up to Shak and she thought for a few moments before mucking her cards to the astonishment of the table.

    Of course, the players turned over their cards and began to laugh. Schulman said, "Every little chip helps," as he collected his piece of the pot. Nguyen couldn’t stop laughing and it took Adalis several minutes before he understood what was going on.

    Now, I've made mistakes before, maybe more than my share, I've even misread the board and played my hand accordingly.

    But with 4 people going allin in front of you in a $10k event, how can you not take a moment and get some clarity.

    The mind boggles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Ah I see Beth Shak was involved. She is really giving Tilly a run for her money
    Who can forget this moment

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtjQPQy5NU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    I hate her with a passion, what a stupid tart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Huge lol: from her blog:

    "Annette 15 kept raising every hand. I had J 10 in the big blind. I called her. I hit my 10 and led out. She looked at my chip stack and re-raised me enough to put me all in. I sat and thought about it for a few minutes. I knew by the way she looked at my chips that she was on a draw. She was trying to get me to fold. I looked at Annie Duke and Paul and said “I may be crazy, but I’m calling.” Sur enough, she had a bottom pair, raising me with J 3 and a flush draw. The Turn was a blank. The River was a diamond. All I can say is that my gut was right."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭kikiki


    shes not that bad i"d give jennifer tilly more then one you couldnt handle her Miick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly



    Shak's own poker philosophy is nonexistent. "I have zero strategy," she says. "I just go into a poker zone and I play."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,669 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Is there any circumstances in which a fold could be correct? Do you have to show your cards to get your share of the pot with the nuts on the board?

    Say you'd butchered the hand by limping with KK expecting a raise down the line, then checked the set on the flop, played every street wrong etc.

    In this case folding the river might look silly but for the sake of 250 chips, it might save you looking even sillier by showing your holding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Is there any circumstances in which a fold could be correct? Do you have to show your cards to get your share of the pot with the nuts on the board?

    Say you'd butchered the hand by limping with KK expecting a raise down the line, then checked the set on the flop, played every street wrong etc.

    In this case folding the river might look silly but for the sake of 250 chips, it might save you looking even sillier by showing your holding.

    Interesting point, I still think you look more silly for folding as she did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Is there any circumstances in which a fold could be correct? Do you have to show your cards to get your share of the pot with the nuts on the board?

    Or in a cash game with a nasty rake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    Is there any circumstances in which a fold could be correct? Do you have to show your cards to get your share of the pot with the nuts on the board?

    Say you'd butchered the hand by limping with KK expecting a raise down the line, then checked the set on the flop, played every street wrong etc.

    In this case folding the river might look silly but for the sake of 250 chips, it might save you looking even sillier by showing your holding.

    Yeah,, if the purpose of folding there is to make yourself not look like a bad player then we have a problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭Duff Man Jr.


    Theres no point in calling off your whole stack when the best she could have got was a chop, good fold imo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Theres no point in calling off your whole stack when the best she could have got was a chop, good fold imo.

    I agree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    didn't she get 2nd in WSOP event? I need to play some tournies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,062 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Folding here does alot for your image, and the other players would mark you as a bad player, +EV :);):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,187 ✭✭✭Flushdraw


    Theres no point in calling off your whole stack when the best she could have got was a chop, good fold imo.

    Do you fold the nuts often?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭bottom feeder


    !....Dizzy but a CRACKER....!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Theres no point in calling off your whole stack when the best she could have got was a chop, good fold imo.

    And whats the worst she can get :confused: The only justification to folding here is to portray yourself as a fish and try to take andvantage of this image later on, but i doubt if this was what she was doing, she just got scared of all the chips in the middle and didnt study the board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,062 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    And whats the worst she can get :confused: The only justification to folding here is to portray yourself as a fish and try to take andvantage of this image later on, but i doubt if this was what she was doing, she just got scared of all the chips in the middle and didnt study the board
    lol study the baord, it should of been obvious, no study involved
    also, it should of been apparent long before any chips went in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    Out of interest why is everyone laughing at the woman who folded and not the man who folded before her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,288 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Women making mistakes playing poker is funnier obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Mellor wrote: »
    lol study the baord, it should of been obvious, no study involved
    also, it should of been apparent long before any chips went in

    yes it should have been but to a female??? Come on now, she was probably too busy admiring the curtains or something :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Out of interest why is everyone laughing at the woman who folded and not the man who folded before her?

    He folded after one person went allin, oops.

    She folded after 4 people went allin, brain dead.

    Incidentally, I think the first person betting should of just made a standard bet - 500 to 1kk chips into the 1k pot.
    It would garner less attention than shoving for 25k into a 1k pot, and would make someone/people less likely to sit up and take notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 900 ✭✭✭CaptainNemo


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    He folded after one person went allin, oops.

    She folded after 4 people went allin, brain dead.

    Incidentally, I think the first person betting should of just made a standard bet - 500 to 1kk chips into the 1k pot.
    It would garner less attention than shoving for 25k into a 1k pot, and would make someone/people less likely to sit up and take notice.

    I believe he folded when 2 people had gone all in. Seems equally brain dead to me. But as people have been pointing out it's WAY FUNNIER when women poker players make mistakes. Because, like, it proves they should be at home breeding or something instead of making a fool of themselves playing cards.

    Did you notice all the flak that Jerry Yang got for winning the WSOP and not being good looking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭Lazare


    That clip upthead makes my blood boil. Typical obnoxious dumb yank.
    Telling her idiot on the rail that she has Aces while someone is still yet to act, then all that whooping afterwards when the poor guy gets eliminated.

    Selfish, obnoxious bitch. I really hate that american attitude. Look at any EPT final to see how the sophisticated carry themselves. The fact that it's encouraged over there is sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Van Dice


    Played her at 3/6 today lol. Stuff like that always happens, like when you look up a new word or something, and then see it again 2 days later.
    13/1.6/1 wasn't exactly what I was hoping for though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭cuterob



    Did you notice all the flak that Jerry Yang got for winning the WSOP and not being good looking?

    say what???


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