Another ethics/ruling thread - going south......

meathman 007

Taking money off the table/leaving with big stack off one table and go to another table

Wondering what peoples views are on 'going south'.
Over the past few weeks i have had full tilt on in the background . Among other things, i noticed that Gus Hanson always does the following:
On the rare occation Gus wins a few buy ins, he always gets up, banks his profits and either open another table with standard buy in or move seats on the table where he had won the money. (buying in for a standard amount)
Ive noticed this in live cash games as well - seen a lot of guys pocket some of the big value chips on the quiet.

What are peoples views on this?

DeadParrot

Dont like it....
I've never really thought about it though.
Last week in CHL's one fella came back after an hour and two and was berated until he bought back in for the amount he had left with

Flushdraw

meathman 007 wrote: »

Taking money off the table/leaving with big stack off one table and go to another table

Wondering what peoples views are on 'going south'.
Over the past few weeks i have had full tilt on in the background . Among other things, i noticed that Gus Hanson always does the following:
On the rare occation Gus wins a few buy ins, he always gets up, banks his profits and either open another table with standard buy in or move seats on the table where he had won the money. (buying in for a standard amount)
Ive noticed this in live cash games as well - seen a lot of guys pocket some of the big value chips on the quiet.

What are peoples views on this?

I'm playing a few years across a lot of casinos and i've never seen this even once. If i did see it, i'd speak up straight away and make sure if stays on the table.

I dont think there's much wrong with somebody leaving a table with a big stack and finding another table. I'd often do it, if there's a lack of full stacks at the table and just a few shortie's knocking around. You generally want to stay at a table where there's full stacks and you have them covered. I presume you mean online, because you cant do it in a live game.

Leaving the table straight after winning a big hand is the thing that p1sses me off the most :mad:

TrueDub

Flushdraw wrote: »

Leaving the table straight after winning a big hand is the thing that p1sses me off the most :mad:

How long do people think is sufficient to wait? One orbit? Two?

marius

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Flushdraw

TrueDub wrote: »

How long do people think is sufficient to wait? One orbit? Two?

Yeah maybe 2 orbits, sometimes 1 orbit is fine but i've seen so many people double up and straight away call for a tray to cash out and take all the money from the table. Its why i try to avoid shortstackers online too...

DeVore

Leaving the table after winning a big pot doesnt bother me at all. It recks of lack of self confidence and a lack of tact but its one life long game...

Going south is cheating just as much as sneaking on more then the table limits allow. Don't like the rules, don't play their game.

DeV.

hotspur

Nothing wrong with leaving after a big win. I agree that going south is cheating. As an illustration of why, I recall playing cash in the Sporting Emporium one time and a fish had won a few pots in a row. I get involved with him, barely have to look at him to know he's on a flush draw on the flop, reraise him up with the intention of being able to make a big turn bet he cannot call without hitting it, and all of a sudden he's all in for about €100 despite having won pots about 3 times that in last couple of hands.

He had sneaked the chips into his pocket and now got a free river card to hit and screw me out of a couple of hundred. Should I have looked at his stack during the hand? Maybe, but I knew what it was supposed to be because he had doubled up twice in last couple of hands. I politely pointed out that in future it is against the rules and he shouldn't do it as it didn't look like he would know.

I've seen it several times, usually from inexperienced players who don't know that it's against the rules.

Imposter

Surely you can call the floor there hotspur and demand he put the chips in his pockets back on the table!

jem

surly it is up to any indivudal how much he plays with in a cash game assuming that when sat down he has more than the minimum and no more than the maximum.
If he wanteed to "bank" his profits he should be allowed to do so. If he won it fair and square its his money.if you lost it to him hard luck but you knew you could lose before you sat down at the table

Ace2007

jem wrote: »

surly it is up to any indivudal how much he plays with in a cash game assuming that when sat down he has more than the minimum and no more than the maximum.
If he wanteed to "bank" his profits he should be allowed to do so. If he won it fair and square its his money.if you lost it to him hard luck but you knew you could lose before you sat down at the table

ur having a laugh aren't ya?

Do this in any club in dublin and we'll see how long it lasts....
when u sit down at a table - you sit down with x amount - if u lose that to player A and player A stays on the table then you should have the right to win this back - fair enough if player A wants to leave the table....

Imposter

jem wrote: »

surly it is up to any indivudal how much he plays with in a cash game assuming that when sat down he has more than the minimum and no more than the maximum.
If he wanteed to "bank" his profits he should be allowed to do so. If he won it fair and square its his money.if you lost it to him hard luck but you knew you could lose before you sat down at the table

He can bank it by leaving the table and not returning for X amount of time but he cannot bank it by taking chips off his stack and putting them in his pockets. Them's the rules.

corkie123

jem wrote: »

surly it is up to any indivudal how much he plays with in a cash game assuming that when sat down he has more than the minimum and no more than the maximum.
If he wanteed to "bank" his profits he should be allowed to do so. If he won it fair and square its his money.if you lost it to him hard luck but you knew you could lose before you sat down at the table

jem it is not allowed to take money off the table at any time if your playing live .do u think its right if u win a couple of k from some one not to give him the chance to win it back ?.i dont care if someone leaves the table myself but to take chips off the table and stay playing is not on .also i seen people leave table and come back later and try to buy in for less than they left with .i would not let that happen and have told people so on a few times it happened to me .

cardshark202

Actually some guy did this in the emporium a few nights back. He won a 1.8k pot and a few hours later was playing 800ish having maybe lost back 100 of it back, max. I think its pretty disgusting, if I had noticed just before he was leaving, I would def have called the floor on it.

Ace2007

cardshark202 wrote: »

Actually some guy did this in the emporium a few nights back. He won a 1.8k pot and a few hours later was playing 800ish having maybe lost back 100 of it back, max. I think its pretty disgusting, if I had noticed just before he was leaving, I would def have called the floor on it.

at what stage did u notice it...

Goodluck2me

Ace2007 wrote: »

at what stage did u notice it...

Whenever gavin was leaving.

mdwexford

After slow rolling this is my most hated thing in poker.

Macspower

happened at my table in the emporium last year with a regular female (was going to say lady but it's not appropriate) . quite sickening really what happened. she had just bought in for 100 and dropped a pot or 2 and topped up for 50 which would have left her with about 130 i think...

Action goes as follows:

I raise with 7 and 3 callers. flop comes A67 I have 66 and make it 25 the next player raises me all in to 75 and the female anounces all in and pushes the chips in... I anounce call and we have a 3 way all in. it's the other player that notices that she is all in for about 35 and brings it to the dealers attention... she claims that the dealer has made a mistake and that she had more money... I point out that she has chips in her hand and she says "where?"and drops a 100 chip onto the floor.... the dealer picks it up and anounces she is all in for the 135 and builds the side pots accordingly....

River is a 10 and she proudly shows 8/9 to claim the whole pot...

I bring it to the card room managers attention who said that he was aware of this player and would have a word but unless I had called him at the time he couldn't do anything about the pot.... not that he could have done anyway except put her all in.....

just hated seeing a cheater scooping the pot..... and then this evil piece of work does the second thing you are talking about and leaves the table :mad:

Marq

going south is filthy.

RoundTower

DeVore wrote: »

Leaving the table after winning a big pot doesnt bother me at all. It recks of lack of self confidence and a lack of tact but its one life long game...