Puzzling Road Sign

Wishbone Ash

Excuse my ignorance lads/ladies but these signs are all Greek to me!

Obviously the road narrows 150 metres ahead but 35 MPH/MFU?

Karoma

Where were they taken (Gaeltacht)?

murphaph

I think it's 'Miles faoi Uair' though I'm sure it's normally san Uair when talking about speed though I'm open to correction on both points.

Obviously recommended speed limits and obviously not in the TSM anywhere! More made up road signs.

Wishbone Ash

Karoma wrote: »

Where were they taken (Gaeltacht)?

Outside Finntown on the R250 in Co Donegal - the water in the pic is Lough Finn (I think).

murphaph wrote: »

I think it's 'Miles faoi Uair' though I'm sure it's normally san Uair when talking about speed though I'm open to correction on both points.

Obviously recommended speed limits and obviously not in the TSM anywhere! More made up road signs.

Ahh - that probably would partly explain it but the signs look new! How long are we in metric?

Hagar

Warning road narrows 150 metres ahead, 35 kilometres per hour.
Wasn't that difficult....

Wishbone Ash wrote:

How long are we in metric?

178cm for me, not sure about you.

Wishbone Ash

Hagar wrote: »

178cm for me, not sure about you.

murphaph

Wonder why they bothered changing the M to K yet left the 35 the same. 35km/h is a lot slower than 35mph! Symptomatic of the laziness and ignorance of the rules that created that sign!

Wishbone Ash

murphaph wrote: »

Wonder why they bothered changing the M to K yet left the 35 the same. 35km/h is a lot slower than 35mph! Symptomatic of the laziness and ignorance of the rules that created that sign!

Even in MPH, I don't think 35mph was a standard limit. It was usually 30/40/50/60/70mph.

Cionnfhaolaidh

murphaph wrote: »

I think it's 'Miles faoi Uair' though I'm sure it's normally san Uair when talking about speed though I'm open to correction on both points.

Ní cainteoir dúchais mé féin ach:

MPH / MSU (Míle San Uair)

KPH / CSU (Ciliméadar San Uair)

Nach ea?

corktina

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Even in MPH, I don't think 35mph was a standard limit. It was usually 30/40/50/60/70mph.

its not a legal limit anyway as it should be a round circle type sign....just advice...is this where trhe bridge collapse was by chance? panic temp sign maybe

corktina

Cionnfhaolaidh wrote: »

Ní cainteoir dúchais mé féin ach:

MPH / MSU (Míle San Uair)

KPH / CSU (Ciliméadar San Uair)

Nach ea?

I fully support the use of the Irish language but i think its not too sensible to manufacture a Gaelic version of kilometre....thats got nothing to do with the Irish language. A worse example is Diosal....Diesel is someones name....why Irish-ise that?

Wishbone Ash

corktina wrote: »

just advice...is this where trhe bridge collapse was by chance? panic temp sign maybe

There appeared to be no evidence of a bridge collapse.

RadioCity

The bridge collapsed on the N59 at Leenane, the N56 is the Donegal "coastal" route.

Just a thought, if the F does stand for "faoi", it could be explained by someone who doesn't have a notion about Irish, looked up "per" in the foclóir and got faoi in the context of "faoin gcéad", per cent??

If that is true, its more typical of some the nonsensical Irish they use in the North to translate street names.

Wishbone Ash

RadioCity wrote: »

the N56 is the Donegal "coastal" route.

The pic was taken on the R250.

Victor

RadioCity wrote: »

Just a thought, if the F does stand for "faoi", it could be explained by someone who doesn't have a notion about Irish, looked up "per" in the foclóir and got faoi in the context of "faoin gcéad", per cent??

Might it be different in Ulster Irish?

Richard

RadioCity wrote: »

If that is true, its more typical of some the nonsensical Irish they use in the North to translate street names.

Do you have any examples? I don't actually speak Irish, mind you.

RadioCity

Do you have any examples? I don't actually speak Irish, mind you.

Theres a road called "Central Drive" in Creggan estate in Derry.
The translatation is shown as "An Lár Cabhsa" which looks like total rubbish. Thats just a crappy translation when its should be something like "An Cabhsa Lárnach" (forgive my Irish), the "driveway in the the centre" (of the estate which it is).
Im no expert in Irish but I do know when some signs are just plain wrong. I must add that some of the signs were probably put up by so called Irish activists, and not the City Council.

E92

Cionnfhaolaidh wrote: »

Ní cainteoir dúchais mé féin ach:

MPH / MSU (Míle San Uair)

KPH / CSU (Ciliméadar San Uair)

Nach ea?

Its km/h not kph;).
Why is it that whenewver there is a thread about how slow we are to change to metric most of the people telling us we need to change over can't spell the units properly (like kilometers and meters, its kilometres, and metres) and use the wrong symbols as well:D? There's no such thing as kph. Its km/h. And btw, km/h is international and used in most languages. Car speedometers and all our speed limit signs don't have km/h written on them for nothing you know.

I would say that km/u is the proper symol in Irish, well at least thats what they use on the Irish versions of the Junior and Leaving Cert Maths papers. I was never too hot on the Irish department, so I'm not 100% on it.:D

Wishbone Ash

One doesn't have to leave the juristiction to get conflicting Irish place names.

My own area in Dublin is Ros Eo but the roadsigns indicate An Ros. :rolleyes:

Wishbone Ash

E92 wrote: »

Its km/h not kph;)

I refuse to use km/h as I think it looks clumsy and stupid. kph all the way. It's my own little form of protest.

Richard

RadioCity wrote: »

Im no expert in Irish but I do know when some signs are just plain wrong. I must add that some of the signs were probably put up by so called Irish activists, and not the City Council.

Thanks!

spacetweek

corktina wrote: »

I fully support the use of the Irish language but i think its not too sensible to manufacture a Gaelic version of kilometre....thats got nothing to do with the Irish language.

Correct - the abbreviation for kilometre is supposed to always be "km" regardless of whether the word starts with the letter k in the local language e.g. in Portuguese it's "quilómetro" but the abbreviation is still km. Similarly in German "hour" is Stunde but the abbreviation is "h".

According to this logic, "cilimeadar san uair" should be abbreviated "km/h".

RadioCity wrote: »

I must add that some of the signs were probably put up by so called Irish activists, and not the City Council.

Even for an ad hoc sign like this, it's a terrible job, as there are at least 5 things wrong with it (measurement unit, value ending in 5, no red circle, wrong font and size, wrong Irish abbreviation.)

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

I refuse to use km/h as I think it looks clumsy and stupid. kph all the way. It's my own little form of protest.

Gah! KPH is one of my bugbears :rolleyes:

Alun

spacetweek wrote: »

Gah! KPH is one of my bugbears :rolleyes:

Mine too! But not quite as bad as kmph, or the worse one I ever saw on a roadworks sign coming into Wicklow town once ... kmp/h !!!!!

Incidentally here in Bray today I saw an instance where they had replaced a 50km/h limit sign on one side of the road. The old one was a 'normal' one with 50 on it in big letters and km/h underneath as are all speed limit signs I've seen to date. The new one on the other side, was larger in diameter than the other one and was missing the km/h altogether. I don't suppose they've decided we've had long enough with km/h now that we don't need to be told? I mean, there's no km/h on speed limit signs on the continent (is there?).

murphaph

Alun wrote: »

Mine too! But not quite as bad as kmph, or the worse one I ever saw on a roadworks sign coming into Wicklow town once ... kmp/h !!!!!

Incidentally here in Bray today I saw an instance where they had replaced a 50km/h limit sign on one side of the road. The old one was a 'normal' one with 50 on it in big letters and km/h underneath as are all speed limit signs I've seen to date. The new one on the other side, was larger in diameter than the other one and was missing the km/h altogether. I don't suppose they've decided we've had long enough with km/h now that we don't need to be told? I mean, there's no km/h on speed limit signs on the continent (is there?).

Denmark uses "km".....

E92

Alun wrote: »

Mine too! But not quite as bad as kmph, or the worse one I ever saw on a roadworks sign coming into Wicklow town once ... kmp/h !!!!!

It actually is one of mine as well, hence why I posted it in the first place!

And kmp/h means kilometres per per hour!

I hope they don't remove the km/h from the speed limit signs, until such time as we share a border with a juristiction that also uses km/h.

corktina

[Denmark uses "km".....

where? oh yes I see now....:)

how did they stick that sign on to her> and how do you get a sign-sticking job in Denmark?