NTL/UPC Channel List

speedy21

Hi,
Does anyone know the difference between Digital Choice and Digital Select?
I called NTL to ask for a channel list but they never sent one out.
The website shows a few icons - but doesnt give much more info.
I'd love to see a proper channel list for both channels.

Also - should I get their DVR now or wait for the new HD box?

CO19

Digital select is a selection of what NTL offer on their digital max pack whereas digital choice is for MMDS i.e people who live outside NTL's cabled areas.You can get a full list of the channels for the select pack here: http://www.upc.ie/television/digitaltv/select/ and you can get the full list of channels for the MMDS (Choice) pack here :http://www.upc.ie/television/digitaltv/choice/

Alun

CO19 wrote: »

Digital select is a selection of what NTL offer on their digital max pack whereas digital choice is for MMDS i.e people who live outside NTL's cabled areas.You can get a full list of the channels for the select pack here: http://www.upc.ie/television/digitaltv/select/ and you can get the full list of channels for the MMDS (Choice) pack here :http://www.upc.ie/television/digitaltv/choice/

I think the point the OP was making was that neither of these two pages (or the one for Digital Max) constitute what he'd call a 'list', and I agree with him. There's no real way of comparing the two side by side, unless you're going to play a rather frustrating game of 'spot the difference', flicking between the two web pages. Sometimes it's not immediately obvious which logo corresponds with which channel either if you've never seen the channel in question.

It's a pretty badly designed web page anyway .. the bit explaining that Choice is only available for non cable people isn't exactly obvious, and the naming doesn't exactly give it away either.

CO19

Yeah on the choice section in tiny text it explians that it's only for non cable customers you'd swear they didn't want you to know this.

The tax man

Boards has a handy search function speedy.:rolleyes:
Multiple posts on this channel list subject.
Any mods out there want to sticky this link.:D

Channel line up**not up to date** but best you'll get right now.

dam099

Given that there are 3 different tariiffs UPS/Chorus (and maybe NTL) make it very difficult to tell what channels you get on each. I live in Swords and when Chorus upgraded we got a few extra channels along with a price increase to 30.99 which corresponds to Digital Max but I definitely do not get all the channels listed at the link above for the digital max package so am I paying for channels I dont get?

Also if I want to downgrade what channels do I lose? I may be happy with only the channels on a lesser package but its is near impossible to tell what exact channels each package gives. I think there is a possible issue with false advertising as accoring to the UPC website logos I should get SciFi, Comedy 2, MTV2 et al but I dont.

JTMan

There is a clear list of UPC channels on Wikipedia here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_UPC_Ireland

It does not break it down package by package

dam099

Fungus wrote: »

There is a clear list of UPC channels on Wikipedia here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_channels_on_UPC_Ireland

It does not break it down package by package

It's nice that people are trying to fill in the gap but really UPC should be posting official channel lists by package so people can make informed choices as to which package they want to pay for.

Alfla

Hey guys,

So we're getting NTL and I had to transcribe that godawful list. It's below. Be careful, however, because a higher cost doesn't necessarily mean "all those channels from the lower list plus more!". For instance, DAVE appears in the cheapest and the most expensive (Value and Max, respectively, at €20 and €32 respectively) lists but not the medium. I've tried to stick to the order they have on the site if you want to cross-reference but they don't make it easy.

Frankly, I think the way they structure the channel offers (such as the whole DAVE example above and the fact that they'll often offer crappier derivatives of channels - such as National Geographic Wild - before offering the actual main channel i.e. National Geographic at a higher price) makes them a bunch of rip-off merchants. But alas I can't get Sky Plus where I am. And after all that groundwork Kelly Brook put in...

Digital Value:

RTE One
RTE Two
TV3
TG4
Setanta Ireland
Channel 6
BBC One
BBC Two
UTV
Channel 4
E4
Sky One
Sky Two
BBC Three
BBC Four
More4
UKTV Gold
Dave
LivingTV
Paramount Comedy 1
Paramount Comedy 2
Virgin1
UKTV Drama
BBC News 24
Sky News
Discovery Channel
Film4
Sky Sports News
E
Bravo
The Den
Nickelodeon
Nick Toons
Nick Jr.
CBBC
Cbeebies
MTV One
EWTN

Digital Select:

RTE One
RTE Two
TV3
TG4
Setanta Ireland
Channel 6
City Channel
BBC One
BBC Two
UTV
Channel 4
E4
E4+1
Sky One
Sky Two
BBC Three
BBC Four
More4
LivingTV
Zone Reality
Paramount Comedy 1
Paramount Comedy 2
Virgin1
Sci-Fi
BBC News 24
Sky News
Euro News
CNBC Europe
BBC World
Bloomberg Television
Discovery Channel
Discovery Channel+1
Travel & Living
Discovery Science
Discovery Turbo
Nat Geo Wild
The History Channel
The Biography Channel
Film4
Film4+1
MGM
Sky Sports News
Extreme
British Eurosport
E
FashionTV
QVC
Performance: The Arts Channel
The Den
Nickelodeon
Nick Replay
Nick Toons
Nick Jr.
CBBC
Cbeebies
MTV One
TMF
KISS
Smash! Hits
Bubble Hits
Magic
EWTN
GOD
TV5Monde
Setanta News
More4+1
LivingTV+1
Discovery Real Time
VH1
The Box
Buzz TV
Discovery Knowledge

Digital Max:

RTE One
RTE Two
TV3
TG4
Setanta Ireland
Channel 6
City Channel
BBC One
BBC Two
UTV
Channel 4
E4
E4+1
Sky One
Sky Two
BBC Three
BBC Four
More4
More4+1
UKTV Gold
UKTV Gold+1
Dave
Hallmark
LivingTV
LivingTV+1
Zone Reality
Paramount Comedy 1
Paramount Comedy 2
Virgin1
Sci-Fi
UKTV Drama
BBC News 24
Sky News
Euro News
CNBC Europe
CNN
BBC World
Bloomberg Television
Discovery Channel
Discovery Channel+1
Travel & Living
Discovery Science
Discovery Animal Planet
Discovery Turbo
National Geographic Channel
Nat Geo Wild
The History Channel
The Biography Channel
Film4
Film4+1
MGM
TCM
Sky Sports News
At The Races
Extreme
British Eurosport
E
FashionTV
Discovery Home & Health
QVC
Discovery Real Time
Bravo
Bravo+1
Performance: The Arts Channel
The Den
Boomerang
Nickelodeon
Nick Replay
Nick Toons
Nick Jr.
CBBC
Cbeebies
Cartoon Network
Cartoon Network TOO
MTV One
MTV Two
MTV Hits
MTV Base
MTV Dance
VH1
VH1 Classic
TMF
The Box
KISS
Smash! Hits
Magic
Q
Kerrang!
The Hits*
Bubble Hits
EWTN
GOD
TV5Monde
Setanta News
Buzz TV
Discovery Knowledge

Happy confusion!

abraxas01

Alfla
Afraid you're wrong about that DAVE example, although it is the website's fault rather than yours. Checked with my buddy in UPC, and DAVE is available in Select as well, it's just an error. The way UPC structure their packs is that if a channel is available in a lower pack, it is also available in the packs above it.
For example, if Dave is available in Value, it is also by default available in Select and Max.

Just as regards Choice, this was the MMDS equivalent of the Max pack . However, they've since rebranded that as Max, so the Max line-up on the website is valid. However, you'll notice the caveat about "The number of channels per pack may vary depending on your geographical location", so you may not get all the channels in that list if you're in MMDS. I'll ask my mate and see what the deal is.

baingal nancer

I have DIgital MAX ,but dont have hallmark(whaterver that is) or Q,kerrang and cartonn network too???

paulm17781

abraxas01 wrote: »

Alfla
Afraid you're wrong about that DAVE example, although it is the website's fault rather than yours. Checked with my buddy in UPC, and DAVE is available in Select as well, it's just an error. The way UPC structure their packs is that if a channel is available in a lower pack, it is also available in the packs above it.
For example, if Dave is available in Value, it is also by default available in Select and Max.

Dave wasn't on select recently I know this as my girlfriend didn't have it. Last week she did, I don't know if they've added it or if it's temporary or what.

GerardKeating

baingal nancer wrote: »

I have DIgital MAX ,but dont have hallmark(whaterver that is) or Q,kerrang and cartonn network too???

Are you MMDS, we are Digital Max out here in Connemara, but no UK-Drama (or alibi or what ever) and so SciFi.

The full list only applies to cable, us poor MMDS pay the same, get less..

dhaumi

I'm moving house soon. The new house has a MMDS aerial on the roof. When I do the check on UPC website, I get Digital TV and PVR (snif no broadband...).
Question is: Can you get Digital package even if you get it from an MMDS aerial?
I thought that was reserved to analogue...
About Dave on Value and Max but not Select, how could that be possible?

rubadub

dam099 wrote: »

but really UPC should be posting official channel lists by package so people can make informed choices as to which package they want to pay for.

Yes, none of those lists appear up to date. Wikipedia has paramount +1 listed, but no "rock on tv", formerly known as mainstreet, formerly known as performance, always known as crap!

Do chorus cable in dublin get the same as NTL cable?

paulm17781

dhaumi wrote: »

Question is: Can you get Digital package even if you get it from an MMDS aerial?
I thought that was reserved to analogue...
About Dave on Value and Max but not Select, how could that be possible?

Yes, digital MMDS exists, I think analogue is gone. It's possible because they choose what to broadcast on each package.

dhaumi

paulm17781 wrote: »

Yes, digital MMDS exists, I think analogue is gone. It's possible because they choose what to broadcast on each package.

Thanks for your answer. It's kinda ironic that the package is called "Select", and they didn't pick Dave...not that I couldn't live without it

icdg

paulm17781 wrote: »

Yes, digital MMDS exists, I think analogue is gone. It's possible because they choose what to broadcast on each package.

Analogue is gone in NTL franchise areas. Chorus areas are having more trouble phasing it out.

There has always been a "very basic" pack on NTL digital MMDS (Go Digital Choice I think it was called, UPC seem to have no information on MMDS any more on their website) which basically was just the analogue cable channels in digital format, priced at the same price as the analgoue MMDS service. The reason for its existance was, as I recall, to facilitate the very quick switchover from 100% analogue to 100% digital in NTL MMDS areas among people who didn't want to pay extra for more channels.

Chorus Digital MMDS is a different beast to the NTL package, and is still essentially the old Chorus Digital product, unlike the cable product which has been brought into line with NTL.

Alfla

So, slightly unrelated but possibly a nice litmus test of NTL and probably the shape of customer service things to come....

They went to my old house to install everything.

Bless, NTL's just like your big slow cousin, isn't it?