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My poker tracker stats advice required/welcome

  • 02-11-2007 1:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭


    Ok so after playing poker online for about 12 months I have decided to approach the game a little more seriously with a view to playing a game I enjoy and earning a little extra spending out of it.

    With this in mind I have moved to 6 Max $50 on I-Poker and have installed both PT and Pa Hud.

    I only currently have a sample of 1400 hands but a couple of things concern me and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.

    My General Stats after 1400 hands are

    VP$IP 25%
    PFR 18.5%
    Total AF 2
    Pre Flop AF 2
    Flop AF 1.4
    Turn AF 2.6
    River AF 4.7

    Won $ WSF 51%
    Won $ SD 59%

    PTBB 15

    So far so good kinda, ok a very small sample and apologies if it is too small for any analysis but there is a little concern I have with my position stats.


    Bn VPIP 30% Cold Call % 3.24
    CO VPIP 21% Cold Call % 1.56
    +1 VPIP 16% Cold Call % 0.92
    UTG VPIP 15% Cold Call % 0
    BB VPIP 38% Cold Call % 0
    SB VPIP 24% Cold Call % 0

    Now what I think is a little weird and is a cause for concern is that by far my most profitable position is BB with 55% of my profit so far coming from the BB and the next most profitable position being the CO.

    Am I right to question this with such a small sample or is there anything obvious that I need to address?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    too small a sample.

    Anyone can run very good or very bad over 1400 hundred hands. Look at jakie gold/jerry yang.

    Get 10K hands and you get a better idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Theresalwaysone


    Now what I think is a little weird and is a cause for concern is that by far my most profitable position is BB with 55% of my profit so far coming from the BB

    To put it in Valors words


    "pure variance"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Yeah way too small a sample size. Post again after 10k hands. It should give a more accurate reflection of VPIP and all the other important stats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Too small a sample, but your River AF seems high, and could account for your good BB/100, i.e. you could be getting lucky by getting extra value out of monkeys as opposed to you betting hands that you should really only be calling with (i.e. where you will only be getting called by a better hand), you may also have been getting lucky with some River bluffs that may not be good ones. It depends though, the sample is too small to tell. But I'd have a look at some of your River decisions. Are you folding too much, not calling enough or raising too much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    comments appreciated and I thought that the sample may be too small. With regard to my river AF one of the things I have been trying to improve is getting value on the river. and I have found that at the level I play you get a lot of stubborn calls from people that would check behind so my default play when I have a hand with some showdown value and I am oop is Bet/Fold rather than C/C. In position I like to think I have a fair understanding of where my hand stands and will bet fairly thin if I think I am ahead.

    I will go through some hands later and see if I can get a handle on any glaring errors but again I take on board the fact that the sample is too small for any real analysis.

    my ptbb is definitely skewed because I have called in a few spots where I have been ahead but the call is definitely -ev


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    I play usually between 1500 hands and 2000 hands a day, ive had a 10 buyin upswing swing lately and another 8 buyin upswing yesterday over that sample. Also if you look at my blog here http://movingthroughthelevels.blogspot.com/2007/08/month-4-week-2-completion.html youll see a 9 buyin downswing followed by a huge upswing so you can see how a sample this small is not a good enough sample to judge.

    But the early signs seem to show you know what your doing based on your V$PIP an other stats, you play a bit looser than me but thats fine if your happy with your postflop play and your doing it in position, your V$PIP to PFR ratio is good so you obviously dont limp too often which is good. One thing that does stand out is your flop aggression, this is very low for the flop, possibly for a couple of reasons:

    1) Your not cbetting alot which you should be
    2) As a conciquence of not cbetting your check/calling instead and diluting your agression, this is bad look to either raise or fold the flop and have a good reason to be calling and theres not many good reasons.
    3) Your cbetting a decent amount but calling too much with hands like underpairs/MP etc, dont bother its not worth calling with the likes of MP,BP etc to try and win a small pot and possibly lose a big one
    4) Your generally not being aggressive with hands like 2 pair/set/Combo draw and possibly slowplaying

    Again these are just an indication of some areas where you may or may not be going wrong, turn aggression is spot on and as others said your river aggression is quite high, if i had stats on you i would be more inclined to call a river bet/raise against you as i dont see someone sustaining these stats on the river without bluffing quite a bit and at 50nl bluffing rarely works but it could be just a consiquence of running hot either which is why a bigger sample is needed.

    Good luck anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Scouser in Dub


    Thanks dvdfan I have been following your blog with interest vwp. One of my issues is that I don't like folding raised flops where I have been the pfr unless I miss completely and even then only if it is multiway this puts me in some fairly tight spots but I reckon the predictability of a lot of the players helps me get out of some of the trickier spots as most people give up on the turn

    I luff value bet the river a lot and only occasionally bluff raise and even when I gte called here I tend to get it back when thin value bets are called, still played terrible this morning so will have a better view after another 8000 hands or so

    cheers


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