HP Belfield (Clonskeagh move to Leixlip)

Agent Smith

31.10.2007 - HP is moving a substantial number of its Irish workforce from its operations in Clonskeagh to its Leixlip campus, a move that could involve up to 1,000 workers it emerged today. The company insisted that the consolidation will involve no redundancies. The US$100.5bn IT giant employs over 4,500 people in Ireland at locations in Clonskeagh, Leixlip and at a software centre in Galway. It is understood that following the consolidation the bulk of HP’s Irish workforce will be based in Leixlip.

According to the company, the plan is to establish the Leixlip facility, aka the Liffey Park Technology Campus, as a strategic centre of excellence for HP worldwide and locally to achieve cost savings across the business.

The decision was communicated to HP’s workforce in Leixlip and Clonskeagh earlier today.

“The new campus will be distinguished by its unique combination of skills diversity and an innovative new work environment that further advances HP’s leadership in the Irish market,” HP Ireland general manager Martin Murphy (pictured) commented.

The existing Leixlip campus will become the corporate headquarters for HP in Ireland and the company will invest in new technologies and productivity tools.

While the majority of the 1,000 workers at the Clonskeagh operation will move to the Leixlip campus, around 300 IT workers involved in HP’s €600m outsourcing deal with Bank of Ireland are envisaged to remain in Clonskeagh.

Murphy said that when complete, the Liffey Park Technolgoy Campus will be one of the largest and most diverse technology campuses in Ireland, with 28 nationalities and over 24 languages represented.




So... the writings on the wall for HP Belfield.


who's going to bail, and who's going stick it out? Whats the new site like?

agent smith

This was in a press release?

agent smith wrote: »

Murphy said that when complete, the Liffey Park Technolgoy Campus will be one of the largest and most diverse technology campuses in Ireland, with 28 nationalities and over 24 languages represented.

Agent Smith

thats Taken from todays Silicon Republic

youcancallmeal

Glad I dont work there anymore. Commuting to Belfield was handy, wouldnt fancy trying to get to Leixlip every morning :eek:

BostonB

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Glad I dont work there anymore. Commuting to Belfield was handy, wouldnt fancy trying to get to Leixlip every morning :eek:

Depends where you are living doesn't it.

qwertz

Great news :rolleyes:

Can they just move their employees to a different location outside of Dublin? Employees, not CPL contractors.

newestUser

qwertz wrote: »

Great news :rolleyes:

Can they just move their employees to a different location outside of Dublin? Employees, not CPL contractors.

How does India sound to you?

azezil

I heard about this 2 years ago

I was inducted out in Leixlip, its a really nice site alright, better canteen, more diverse types of food.

Its a bit of an arse for me to get out there though, it'll mean 2 trains with a commute of nearly 1.5hrs, my manager has been trying to sugar coat it by saying the rent is a lot lower out there... riiiight :P

godtabh

azezil wrote: »

my manager has been trying to sugar coat it by saying the rent is a lot lower out there... riiiight :

P

This is great news for me if I ever decided to rent my apartment out. I'm 20min walk to the plant and a lot closer to Intel. But I wont be doing it any time soon but its good for the future!

qwertz

Anybody have a more useful answer? Obviously they can't force their Irish employees to move to India.

newestUser wrote: »

How does India sound to you?

the_syco

Sweet. May actually apply for a job there, as it's only down the road (10 minute cycle). That is, if it ever improves:D

azezil, when you get off the train at Leixlip, there's a shuttle bus that drops people off at HP and Intel, which makes the "getting there" slightly easier.

Also, will it still be CPL owning your ass, or will HP be employing you directly?

qwertz wrote: »

Great news

Can they just move their employees to a different location outside of Dublin? Employees, not CPL contractors.

Sure. It's not like it's moving to Cork. Also an underhand way to downsize the workforce.

Could be worse. Could have moved to CityWest. There's no trains at all out there...

qwertz

So if they cannot move them to Cork where is the line drawn then? Up to 50km from the original location, 100km, 200?

the_syco wrote: »

Sweet. May actually apply for a job there, as it's only down the road (10 minute cycle). That is, if it ever improves:D

azezil, when you get off the train at Leixlip, there's a shuttle bus that drops people off at HP and Intel, which makes the "getting there" slightly easier.

Also, will it still be CPL owning your ass, or will HP be employing you directly?


Sure. It's not like it's moving to Cork. Also an underhand way to downsize the workforce.

Could be worse. Could have moved to CityWest. There's no trains at all out there...

the_syco

qwertz wrote: »

So if they cannot move them to Cork where is the line drawn then? Up to 50km from the original location, 100km, 200?

Oh, I never said they can't...

qwertz

Apologies, misread your post. What's the law? Thanks!

the_syco wrote: »

Oh, I never said they can't...

the_syco

qwertz wrote: »

Apologies, misread your post. What's the law? Thanks!

I think once they offer "transfer" people, it's ok. Don't think they can "lay off" people if the job exists elsewhere in the same country.

azezil

the_syco wrote: »

azezil, when you get off the train at Leixlip, there's a shuttle bus that drops people off at HP and Intel, which makes the "getting there" slightly easier.

azezil wrote:

I was inducted out in Leixlip, its a really nice site alright, better canteen, more diverse types of food.

Yup, I know

the_syco

azezil wrote: »

Yup, I know

azezil wrote: »

Its a bit of an arse for me to get out there though, it'll mean 2 trains with a commute of nearly 1.5hrs, my manager has been trying to sugar coat it by saying the rent is a lot lower out there... riiiight :P

Two bolded bits look like future tense. Didn't look up "inducted".

Eoin

qwertz wrote: »

So if they cannot move them to Cork where is the line drawn then? Up to 50km from the original location, 100km, 200?

I guess the first place to check is the contract - I can't find any info at citizensinformation.ie or entemp.ie to suggest that you can't be relocated. We're going through the same thing in the new year - still in Dublin city centre, but will probably add an extra 40 mins either way, and no more free parking

azezil

the_syco wrote: »

Two bolded bits look like future tense. Didn't look up "inducted".

Yes in the future it will be, but I know this because I started out there, thus the comment with the "was" preceding that later comment about it will be a pain

me87_ie

Effort of moving all the way out there tho!

badgerhowlin

I just finished working in that **** hole of a place. I dont think there is anything in the contract saying that they cant relocate you. When i was there they relocated one of the desks, Credit Swiss i think it was to some where in South America so I would say YA they can reloacte any where they like.

Agent Smith

seanhowlin wrote: »

I just finished working in that **** hole of a place. I dont think there is anything in the contract saying that they cant relocate you. When i was there they relocated one of the desks, Credit Swiss i think it was to some where in South America so I would say YA they can reloacte any where they like.

I could Make You look like an Idiot, But i wont


The Relocation to Costa Rica By Credit Swiss Was A decission by HP, Not CPL


why would CPL, an irish company move Jobs Outside the state?

Kazu

I just finished working in that **** hole of a place

i know the feeling i worked for them for 3 months :rolleyes::rolleyes:

on the boi desk

75+ calls a days,log tickets, and set up new user accounts which where emailed and posted in every day for staff

five mins of the phone and they would be down to me straight away


like a nazi death camp :D

BostonB

agent smith wrote: »

I could Make You look like an Idiot, But i wont


The Relocation to Costa Rica By Credit Swiss Was A decission by HP, Not CPL


why would CPL, an irish company move Jobs Outside the state?

You mean like aer wingless and countless other companies?

feylya

I just finished working there in October and I think I'm the only person who didn't mind the place. Might have been cos of the desks I was on though.

badgerhowlin

thanks for giving me a break. agent smith.

Your correct CPL wouldnt throw money away like that they are too tight to even pay there employees a good wage.

I was on the BOI Tech desk for 7 months and them moved to an ILC position for the next 11 months.

punkerrandboy

Whether you can be relocated or not depends largely on your contract of employment. But even if it is not clearly stated what your work location is in your contract, the fact that you have worked in one location for a reasonable period (say 12 months) would suggest that the custom and practise (which carries a certain amount of legal weight) is that you work wherever you are located. In other words an employer cannot in all circumstances just unilaterally deicde that all staff are moving to location x. If that was the case there would be nothing stopping companies from relocating as a way of cutting staff without paying redundancy.

I would suggest that the staff in HP and CPL should join a union and get some proper advice. I know that a number of CPL staff in Clonskeagh have already joined the CWU.

For info:http://www.callcentreunion.ie

BostonB

punkerrandboy wrote: »

Whether you can be relocated or not depends largely on your contract of employment. But even if it is not clearly stated what your work location is in your contract, the fact that you have worked in one location for a reasonable period (say 12 months) would suggest that the custom and practise (which carries a certain amount of legal weight) is that you work wherever you are located. In other words an employer cannot in all circumstances just unilaterally deicde that all staff are moving to location x. If that was the case there would be nothing stopping companies from relocating as a way of cutting staff without paying redundancy....

You mean like decentralisation is doing?

Kazu

Your correct CPL wouldnt throw money away like that they are too tight to even pay there employees a good wage.

or pay for decent pc equipment, eg pc mouse was like 10 years old or older

i left the end of August did not give notice btw would not put CPL on the Cv anyway

boi desk is badly run more staff needed e**hne lovely women to work with :D

I was on the BOI Tech desk for 7 months and them moved to an ILC position for the next 11 months.

get promoted and they throw a few more peanuts at you :D

Agent Smith

at this wage a few extra peanuts wouldnt go amiss!

azezil

Kazu wrote: »

or pay for decent pc equipment, eg pc mouse was like 10 years old or older

Well I can't speak for the equipment but all pc's will be no older than 3 years old when the current system is fully implemented... which should have been done years ago but anywho we won't question who was in charge of enforcing that! *ahem*

Arathorn

Did they say when the move is meant to happen?

azezil

Second half of FY08.

the_syco

azezil wrote: »

Second half of FY08.

Dang. Was hoping it was soon, so that I could get a job out there. Ah well.